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Donald Trump's reason for giving the green light to dumping Carrie Prejean..."Trump told us Carrie refused to appear at around 30 events on behalf of Miss California USA. He says Prejean was contractually bound to appear and she just wouldn't do it. He doesn't think her attitude has anything to do with her politics."

Trump said: "To me she was the sweetest thing. Everyone else -- she treated like s**t."

don't cha just love it?
 
A true hypocrite in every possible aspect. I didn't even know this happened but am glad to hear the news. California is enough of a joke these days. You'd think it was Governor Moonbeam in charge all over again, and that we're all hanging in hot tubs and smoking too much wacky tabacky.

Hey, wait a minute . . .

Ralph
 
"Hey, wait a minute" is right....

Don't we wish we had Governor Moonbeam back, or even his stuffy father. Thank goodness for Maria Shriver, or there'd be another 10 feet of crapola over our heads.
 
Last I heard Jerry Brown is making another run for governor, so you might have your chance. He couldn't do much worse than the last two winners.

Personally I don't think Arnold takes his job seriously. It's just another macho game for him. The sad state of the state is the unfortunate result of his combined disinterest and incompetence, along with a broken constitution.

What we need is someone like Willie Brown - someone who understands the legislative process inside and out and can wheel and deal a budget in the black and on time. OK, he's not perfect, but I don't recall ever hearing about these kinds of problems when he was running the show in Sacramento.
 
I'm Looking Forward To...

Carrie's appearance next season on "The Celebrity Apprentice" and The Donald having another chance to tell the beauty queen that she's fired!
 
Sudsmaster...

I can tell you're a good guy, but I think you meant "couldn't do much worse than the last two wieners."

...and you shop at my old alma matter, Orchard Supply Hardware, I was the Plumbing Buyer at the Corporate Office when I left in 2002 and moved here. No OSH in the Desert, damn it.
 
It Amazes Me...

...How many people who get a little access to the media think that the media is a platform they can use for their own purposes, with zero repercussions.

Prejean seems to have thought that this was her big chance to communicate her views, but she forgot - if she ever knew - that the media she wanted to use as a bully pulpit was the same media that could ferret out every unflattering thing about her. She now has to live the rest of her life with her name permanently attached to controversial viewpoints, to say nothing of cheesecake photos. These things will affect her professionally for years to come, and maybe forever.

Here's a tip for anyone who is getting, or about to get, their fifteen minutes of fame: Can you spell "Google?" Yes? Well, so can everyone else.
 
wishes come true!

At least mine! Good riddance you bigoted trash.
Since when is California a state of haters?
I do not believe what is going on here.
Religious extremism in any form is damaging to society.
It is the source of most of the conflict and hate in our lives today.
People just flip out when you refuse to believe the way they do.
 
OSH

Joe, much as I love OSH as an institution (it got its start right here in the Bay Area) that store has done nothing but consistently disappoint me since I moved to a part of town where OSH is the closest place for my hardware needs. It seems every normal standard thing I go there for is out of stock. There are never enough check stands open (this applies to pretty much all retailers lately though) and nobody knows anything about what they're selling. I swear, OSH really makes me miss having a fully stocked and seriously overstaffed ACE Hardware just down the street like we used to. I'm looking forward to the new Lowe's that's going to be opening up nearby. I've had it with being let down time and time again by OSH. Most recently, I bought several 10' lengths of galvanized pipe and some chick helping out in the loading area put electrical conduit on the truck instead, which I didn't discover until I got home. I couldn't help but put a misogynistic twist on my complaint at the customer service desk when I had to go back and exchange all of it.

Meanwhile, I hear precious Miss Carrie is likely going to become another talking head on Fox News. Surprise!

Ralph
 
Ralph, as an FYI...

Sears Holding Companies purchased OSH some years ago which began the erosion of what we called the "OSH Culture," something that goes all the way back to 1931. New executives hired from Home Depot only added more nails to the coffin lid. "Outs" were and still should be considered serious business. About 85% on the items are termed 'warehouse" meaning they come out of the Tracy Distriution Center. When I left the company, every store got at least one truck a day (these are semi tractor/trailers OSH owns and operates.) This means that stores should not be out of almost anything. The re-order buyer for each department is responsible for making the sure the warehouse is stocked. There is/was a sophisticated computer system that pretty much controls replenishment but the re-order buyers are supposed to check every item. There is a daily report generated for both the buyers and the stores called the Outs Report. Outs are expressed as a % to the total, and if that number is 1% or lower you got in BIG trouble, both at Corporate and at store level. Frankly, nothing is worse than having a customer come in to the store and find an empty peg or shelf. Obviously things have changed in the 7 years I have been gone, which is not suprising since one individual now does the work of three or four.

You must have a more positive shopping experience at Depot and Lowes than I have with the 6 fairly new stores here in the Desert. They are constantly out of items, fill vacant areas with items that don't correspond to the shelf tag, and my favorite, the "help" tells you they either don't carry an item or it's no longer made in which case I pull the tag off the shelf and stick it in their face. And who plan-o-gram's their departments? Things are arranged to facilitate the vendors and staff that re-stock, certainly not the customer.

I am really sad to hear about your experience with Orchard Supply Hardware.
 
Plan-O-Grams:

Are one of the big factors killing retail today, IMHO.

For those who don't know what these are, they're instructions from a corporate office to a store location, telling the store exactly how corporate wants the store arranged. New plan-o-grams are issued periodically; how often depends on the chain. They basically say, "Move this department's merchandise into this area, move that department over there, move this other one here," etc.

What corporate honchos are trying to do is to rotate merchandise from one location to another, to give it more exposure to customers; this is called re-merchandising.

What's bad about it is this: First, it's the main reason you can't find stuff in the same place twice; just when you learn a store's layout, corporate changes it.

Second, it takes a tremendous amount of staff effort to accomplish. Staff who could be waiting on you have to give you only a fraction of their attention, since the plan-o-gram's instructions have to be followed within a time frame (corporate checks up, trust me). In situations where staff is on commission, re-merchandising efforts take away from their sales time, and cut into their income. In certain chains, this has reached such proportions of abusiveness that staff turnover is incredibly high; the poor people who are trying to make a living can't get any time to sell.

So, now you know why nothing in chain stores is in the same place from visit to visit. You know why the help is surly, and you know why any salesperson who knows what he or she is doing seems to disappear quickly.

Plan-o-grams serve one major purpose - they are used by management people to justify their existence. Management sits in offices and draws new diagrammes, store personnel do the grunt work. Management gets paid handsomely, store personnel get very little. Consideration is not given to how a store is performing - if they're doing great or if customers are completely happy with the store as it is. Management says, "Here's the new plan-o-gram," and that is supposed to be that. The little people are supposed to shaddup and execute.

IMHO, plan-o-grams are one of the many reasons for the lights going out in one store after another, all over this country. They take time away from customers and confuse them too, and aren't customers supposed to be the reason stores exist?
 
danemodsandy...

You're right about retailers playing roulette with merchandise like vehicles on a used car lot. With OSH, plan-o-grams were very important since you were dealing with 50,000 items in about as many square feet. They were always done to make things easier for the customer as was everything. And any smart buyer made sure the vendor provided the manpower for resets, and they were never done in a manner that inconvenienced the customer. Perhaps this is not the case any longer with my previous employer...very sad.

When I shop today I see store personnel behaving as if customers were an inconvenience instead of the source of their paycheck. It's no wonder online shopping is so popular.

...interesting how this message thread I started as a discussion about an evil queen's de-throning has morphed into something different...
 
A Long, Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away...

...I tried to fill in three vacant months between two "real" jobs with a stint at Radio Shack. Plan-o-grams were one of the banes of our existence; you could not get a single solitary blessed thing done without a new one coming in, or a huge merchandise shipment to unpack and put in stock, or having to take inventory (any time there was any kind of stock shortage, RS pulled a complete inventory to reconcile things, in addition to scheduled inventories). I left because my paycheck didn't even cover the expenses inherent in a reliable car and a clean, professional wardrobe, much less anything else.

Granted that all those things may have needed to be done, but the sales help at RS is on an arrangement that pays minimum wage or commission, whichever is higher, and these "side" efforts come directly out of their sales time, often eliminating it altogether. I lasted five weeks before I threw my hands up and the towel in, spending the rest of my between-jobs hiatus taking an unplanned vacation. There was no possibility whatsoever of making anything beyond minimum wage, and the work was hard physical labour, eight hours a day, often with no break because the store was too poorly staffed to have anyone to cover you. Turnover was horrendous.

Plan-o-grams serve a purpose, but not when they're used to stir a pot that doesn't need stirring. In my opinion, RS would have done much better to leave the stores the hell alone, and freed staff to sell instead of heave merchandise.
 
Well, i do wish Miss Prejean all the best, and let's smile into the face of adversity and remember Ms. Anita Bryant. Now onto retail, i am guessing Walgreens is a plan-0-gram store, but this is one time i cannot rant. What are your experiences with Walgreen's? me and mine, just love them. They were a lifesaver after Hurricane Katrina for displaced customers. Recently we hosted my partners Dad for a few weeks and they came to the rescue again, with Pops Rx medicines. I really like Walgreens. Sometimes i find myself running in there for a midweek gal of milk or some other item. They do have a management TEAM imho.
 

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