English Electric Rapide 57
Quite large oven cavities, no probs for a family of six for everyday cooking...
Quite large oven cavities, no probs for a family of six for everyday cooking...
moffat cooker
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English Electric Rapide 57
Controls with Roll-a-Dial Menu Selector
Controls with Roll-a-Dial Menu Selector
English Electric Rapide 57
Spin That Dial for menus.....lovely blue colour dont you think??
Spin That Dial for menus.....lovely blue colour dont you think??
And Remember
The spa of Bob & Neils classic range....
The spa of Bob & Neils classic range....
Well Belling
have gone and introduced a new version....electric grill, would have loved to have seen it gas with rotisserie....
http://www.belling.co.uk/range-cookers/cookcentre-90dft/
have gone and introduced a new version....electric grill, would have loved to have seen it gas with rotisserie....
http://www.belling.co.uk/range-cookers/cookcentre-90dft/
ozzie908
Well-known member
Hey Mike ....
Which model of the English Electric cookers had the self cleaning where it got super hot in the oven to burn the crud off ???
I remember the design as being the similar to yours but also had a self clean setting on the clock as it took a few hours it also had a foot pedal that locked so the door could not be opened untill it had cooled down ! Only ever used it once as we were on a coin meter for the electric and boy oh boy did it ever swallow money when you put it on clean ......
Austin
Which model of the English Electric cookers had the self cleaning where it got super hot in the oven to burn the crud off ???
I remember the design as being the similar to yours but also had a self clean setting on the clock as it took a few hours it also had a foot pedal that locked so the door could not be opened untill it had cooled down ! Only ever used it once as we were on a coin meter for the electric and boy oh boy did it ever swallow money when you put it on clean ......
Austin
Mike.. that recipe dial....does it move the temperature dial as you roll thru the different items? Those new SxS ovens are very appealing
Self clean & more
Pete
It was my pleasure.
Mike
As regards he Moffat it was a matter of bad timing as I had just bought a new Neff oven (literally installed it the night before the Moffat was listed) to repace the large of my two old units. Had I not done so, I would have re-located the combi micro (which I still love by the way) and installed the Moffat (subject to testing) in place of the two. As it is, its the conservatory kitchen - following in the footsteps of early 1990s Delia. Mind you she did not have a couple of twinnies, a washing machine and a drier in there! Its getting crowded .......
Interesting to see the rotary cook guide on the 57, I suppose they took the idea from the old EE Liberator washing machine. My mum had the later version of this - the 68, no cook guide but supposedly fully temperature controlled upper oven and stay clean linings in the main oven. Does the 57 have one of those special sensors on the back LH ring (simmerstat?). Mums did, but useless as the tringular ring supports were slightly too short and it would constantly drop into the spill well below. The upper oven was useless too, I dont remember now if it had a bottom element or not or whether it just depended on the grill but everthing came out burnt ...... So when people wax lyrical over 1970s design & build it always brings this cooker to mind - I was there and it was not always the case .....
Main oven was good though, that was what I learned to bake on. Bought in 1974 I think it was then coming towards the end of its production run, I think it was then the EE name was dropped although the cookers lived on as an Electra with updated styling and in a range of colours - harvest gold, green, red.
I think the B&W photo above is a 66 - my Aunt Jean had one of those.
Unfortunatly I was not present when this cooker was bought or it would not have been! I was angling for a Moffat (probably too expensive) or a Tricity President - actually the EE was replaced in 1987 by a later and not so attractive President.
I never did like the later Carron (I think renamed Cannon by this time), I always preferred the earlier version which came in both gas and electric versions, although come to think of it I don't think I ever saw an electric version of the Cannon. I do think B&N could do with a nice burnished copper hood over it too
Is Belling part of the Rangemaster group now? As a range, with the grill built into the upper oven I think it is a reasonable design, but I do think two grills is a bit OTT. I doubt it will do well as the vent hood would have to be placed very high over the grill and I dont think an Xpelair or Vent-Axia fan over the cooker would be acceptable these days.
Austin,
Did not know EE produced a self clean oven - if asked I would have cited the Creda Autoclean as the only UK cooker of that era to have a self cleaning oven although your mention of a foot pedal does set a faint bell jangling ..... I cannot think of any other UK manufactured cooker with a self cleaning oven at all (certainly not of that vintage) although I know there are a few imported ones. Indeed I bought a Baumatic self cleaner myself in 2000 - and that was a pile of crap n'all! It lasted three months before I (bitterly) replaced it - wishing I had kept the old Neff 1057 which was brilliant.
Al
Pete
It was my pleasure.
Mike
As regards he Moffat it was a matter of bad timing as I had just bought a new Neff oven (literally installed it the night before the Moffat was listed) to repace the large of my two old units. Had I not done so, I would have re-located the combi micro (which I still love by the way) and installed the Moffat (subject to testing) in place of the two. As it is, its the conservatory kitchen - following in the footsteps of early 1990s Delia. Mind you she did not have a couple of twinnies, a washing machine and a drier in there! Its getting crowded .......
Interesting to see the rotary cook guide on the 57, I suppose they took the idea from the old EE Liberator washing machine. My mum had the later version of this - the 68, no cook guide but supposedly fully temperature controlled upper oven and stay clean linings in the main oven. Does the 57 have one of those special sensors on the back LH ring (simmerstat?). Mums did, but useless as the tringular ring supports were slightly too short and it would constantly drop into the spill well below. The upper oven was useless too, I dont remember now if it had a bottom element or not or whether it just depended on the grill but everthing came out burnt ...... So when people wax lyrical over 1970s design & build it always brings this cooker to mind - I was there and it was not always the case .....
Main oven was good though, that was what I learned to bake on. Bought in 1974 I think it was then coming towards the end of its production run, I think it was then the EE name was dropped although the cookers lived on as an Electra with updated styling and in a range of colours - harvest gold, green, red.
I think the B&W photo above is a 66 - my Aunt Jean had one of those.
Unfortunatly I was not present when this cooker was bought or it would not have been! I was angling for a Moffat (probably too expensive) or a Tricity President - actually the EE was replaced in 1987 by a later and not so attractive President.
I never did like the later Carron (I think renamed Cannon by this time), I always preferred the earlier version which came in both gas and electric versions, although come to think of it I don't think I ever saw an electric version of the Cannon. I do think B&N could do with a nice burnished copper hood over it too
Is Belling part of the Rangemaster group now? As a range, with the grill built into the upper oven I think it is a reasonable design, but I do think two grills is a bit OTT. I doubt it will do well as the vent hood would have to be placed very high over the grill and I dont think an Xpelair or Vent-Axia fan over the cooker would be acceptable these days.
Austin,
Did not know EE produced a self clean oven - if asked I would have cited the Creda Autoclean as the only UK cooker of that era to have a self cleaning oven although your mention of a foot pedal does set a faint bell jangling ..... I cannot think of any other UK manufactured cooker with a self cleaning oven at all (certainly not of that vintage) although I know there are a few imported ones. Indeed I bought a Baumatic self cleaner myself in 2000 - and that was a pile of crap n'all! It lasted three months before I (bitterly) replaced it - wishing I had kept the old Neff 1057 which was brilliant.
Al
bellingmad
Active member
cleaning the hob
Hi, I love your moffat cooker, I havent read through all of your messages so dont know if you got an answer for cleaning the cermaic hob, but astonish cleaning paste ive found is really good! I cleaned my friends hob and it brought off alot of the burnt on marks...maybe do a test spot first, but it shouldnt scratch the glass... thanks Ian
Hi, I love your moffat cooker, I havent read through all of your messages so dont know if you got an answer for cleaning the cermaic hob, but astonish cleaning paste ive found is really good! I cleaned my friends hob and it brought off alot of the burnt on marks...maybe do a test spot first, but it shouldnt scratch the glass... thanks Ian
Moffat Rotisserie Parts
Like all the photos from that 60's brochure, my mom's oven has that same rotisserie as pictured here. But it came with another part that we cannot identify a use for. It's length fits perfectly between the assembled brackets that holds the spit rod (the spit rod is much longer of course) and this "mystery" piece has ends that bend down 90 degrees from the flat bar, and then out at 90 degrees again for about 1/2 inch. Can't find anything on what that part does.
I know that if you sort of "lock" it under the brackets in a criss-cross fashion you can use it to lift the hot drip pan/rotisserie bracxket set off the oven rack once it's pulled forward - but is that what it's for?
Also what are all the other "sundry" holes punched into the drip pan for (and, no, I do not refer to the insert piece that let's juices drain)? the user manual is not very helpful.
Geoff
Like all the photos from that 60's brochure, my mom's oven has that same rotisserie as pictured here. But it came with another part that we cannot identify a use for. It's length fits perfectly between the assembled brackets that holds the spit rod (the spit rod is much longer of course) and this "mystery" piece has ends that bend down 90 degrees from the flat bar, and then out at 90 degrees again for about 1/2 inch. Can't find anything on what that part does.
I know that if you sort of "lock" it under the brackets in a criss-cross fashion you can use it to lift the hot drip pan/rotisserie bracxket set off the oven rack once it's pulled forward - but is that what it's for?
Also what are all the other "sundry" holes punched into the drip pan for (and, no, I do not refer to the insert piece that let's juices drain)? the user manual is not very helpful.
Geoff
dorothyg
Member
1978/79 Moffat Cooker
Hi - so glad to find this site! Hopefully I can get some assistance
We have a Moffat double-oven cooker with eye-level grill + rotisserie with white ceramic hob.
The Model number plate has 'disappeared'- I think it was on the back of the housing, we've looked all over it and cannot find it anywhere and the Manual has also gone. Over the last couple of years the ceramic hob elements have been fading and we'd like to get them replaced... because we don't have the Model No. we cannot order them.
Does anyone recognise this model and can provide a Model number. Fingers crossed.
Hi - so glad to find this site! Hopefully I can get some assistance
We have a Moffat double-oven cooker with eye-level grill + rotisserie with white ceramic hob.
The Model number plate has 'disappeared'- I think it was on the back of the housing, we've looked all over it and cannot find it anywhere and the Manual has also gone. Over the last couple of years the ceramic hob elements have been fading and we'd like to get them replaced... because we don't have the Model No. we cannot order them.
Does anyone recognise this model and can provide a Model number. Fingers crossed.
dorothyg
Member
1978/79 Moffat Cooker
Just to say - having now thoroughly read the posts, our oven is very similar to the one in the photo from Peter in Post No. 10 - but has a small oven and a large oven with a non-usable(!) 'storage' space at the bottom.
Just to say - having now thoroughly read the posts, our oven is very similar to the one in the photo from Peter in Post No. 10 - but has a small oven and a large oven with a non-usable(!) 'storage' space at the bottom.
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