aquarius1984
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Glenfield where diod you see the evidence that sealed tubs usually have stronger bearings?
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paulinroyton
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Hi Mat.
I thought Hoover was made in China like my LG was. So was surprised to find out it was made in Italy.
I still have a few vintage machines, but over the next few months will be selling them as I need the space.
Paul
Hi Mat.
I thought Hoover was made in China like my LG was. So was surprised to find out it was made in Italy.
I still have a few vintage machines, but over the next few months will be selling them as I need the space.
Paul
haxisfan
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My 2p worth...
I was intrigued by your comments about the spin speed and the wearing of the bearings: I believe that there would be a mathematical relation between these two factors and that one factor would be directly proportional to the other; having said that, there would be other factors coming into play that would prevent that 'wearing curve' to bend further. If you think that there would be a given wear on a ball bearing at a given speed... by increasing the speed, you would also increase the wear. But as there are other elements that contribute to the wear of the bearings (like a broken seal, or, as some of you suggested lighter laundry at higher speed, corrosive detergents, etc), it's rather possible to that an 800rpm spin speed washer has its bearings outlasted by a 1400rpm.
@ glenfieldmathk1: you might have got confused between Electrolux BOL models and Candy/Hoover, the first has sealed sump (the models in which you find the filter accessible from the inside of the drum under a paddle) and not the latter. My Hoover Dynamic 8-Pulse, as this one on the thread, has 2 pumps (drain + circulation) which are completely separated from the rest of the outer tub.
@ paulinroyton: my Hoover 8-Pulse (bought in the UK) is made in China... I was astonished to learn from your comments that yours is made in Italy. Lots of the Hoovers they get in Italy are made in China too. I love the fact that you have a prewash button on your version, just like my older Hoover (still Candy made), my Dynamic also lacks other cycles that your models has such as the 'All Baby' (what does it do?) and 'Duvet'.
I was intrigued by your comments about the spin speed and the wearing of the bearings: I believe that there would be a mathematical relation between these two factors and that one factor would be directly proportional to the other; having said that, there would be other factors coming into play that would prevent that 'wearing curve' to bend further. If you think that there would be a given wear on a ball bearing at a given speed... by increasing the speed, you would also increase the wear. But as there are other elements that contribute to the wear of the bearings (like a broken seal, or, as some of you suggested lighter laundry at higher speed, corrosive detergents, etc), it's rather possible to that an 800rpm spin speed washer has its bearings outlasted by a 1400rpm.
@ glenfieldmathk1: you might have got confused between Electrolux BOL models and Candy/Hoover, the first has sealed sump (the models in which you find the filter accessible from the inside of the drum under a paddle) and not the latter. My Hoover Dynamic 8-Pulse, as this one on the thread, has 2 pumps (drain + circulation) which are completely separated from the rest of the outer tub.
@ paulinroyton: my Hoover 8-Pulse (bought in the UK) is made in China... I was astonished to learn from your comments that yours is made in Italy. Lots of the Hoovers they get in Italy are made in China too. I love the fact that you have a prewash button on your version, just like my older Hoover (still Candy made), my Dynamic also lacks other cycles that your models has such as the 'All Baby' (what does it do?) and 'Duvet'.
paulinroyton
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Programmes
Hi Haxisfan.
The baby Cycle means you can wash all baby clothes together giving a hygienic wash. The machine gives a pre dose of detergent using the 8 jets.
The duvet cycle is for washing duvets or a big size load. The programme washes at 30c, has 3 rinses and a slow spin.
As for my remarks made in Italia. I thought most appliances are now made in China, not saying nothing wrong with appliances made in China, just a bit surprised to find it made in italy. I like the machine, also love the deep rinses unlike some modern machines that hardly take any water in.
Paul
Hi Haxisfan.
The baby Cycle means you can wash all baby clothes together giving a hygienic wash. The machine gives a pre dose of detergent using the 8 jets.
The duvet cycle is for washing duvets or a big size load. The programme washes at 30c, has 3 rinses and a slow spin.
As for my remarks made in Italia. I thought most appliances are now made in China, not saying nothing wrong with appliances made in China, just a bit surprised to find it made in italy. I like the machine, also love the deep rinses unlike some modern machines that hardly take any water in.
Paul
Hoover
Hi Paul, sorry to hear you had trouble with Maytag servicing, do you know if it was independant service engineers or part of the Whirlpool Group servicing?
Well this new washer is certainly involking discussion, from my point of view I was so taken aback when I saw the first pic that I had to go and have a look in person at one!!, I would tactfully describe it as Hoovers Blingiest Washer to date!! I cant work out wether its all the chrome and no white or that it still has the stickers on giving the impression of a larger than normal fascia...Glad you are enjoying it and look forward to more videos....
One thing still bemuses me with these added programmes, such as "Duvet"...who in their right mind would want to wash a Duvet full of human protein , skin cells, dust mites along with animal hair and want to wash it at "30d"...just beyond me!!, it should be labelled Programme 2 or D....what do you say?
Hi Paul, sorry to hear you had trouble with Maytag servicing, do you know if it was independant service engineers or part of the Whirlpool Group servicing?
Well this new washer is certainly involking discussion, from my point of view I was so taken aback when I saw the first pic that I had to go and have a look in person at one!!, I would tactfully describe it as Hoovers Blingiest Washer to date!! I cant work out wether its all the chrome and no white or that it still has the stickers on giving the impression of a larger than normal fascia...Glad you are enjoying it and look forward to more videos....
One thing still bemuses me with these added programmes, such as "Duvet"...who in their right mind would want to wash a Duvet full of human protein , skin cells, dust mites along with animal hair and want to wash it at "30d"...just beyond me!!, it should be labelled Programme 2 or D....what do you say?
paulinroyton
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Hi Mike.
It was Whirlpool Servicing who came out to repair the Maytag. I think 2 weeks and 4 days is a bit of a long time to have to wait for a repair. The Which Legal Team certainly got things stirred up at Appliancecity. When I received the phone call from them saying I could have any machine I wanted, I was in shock, lol. I was going to have another Maytag, but was put off with the trouble I had with the last one.
I didn,t have much time to choose and when I decided to go for the Hoover I then has second thoughts. Up to know it seems a good machine, love the 8 jests and the spin on start up, lots of bubbles in the machine.
The Duvet programmes is a bit of a let down. I would of liked to be able to choose at least 60c for a duvet. Also the all in one programmes lets you mix whites and coloureds. I always wash my whites and coloureds seperate and my whites always go on a 60c wash.
I was under the impression Hoover machines are made in China, but the rating plate says made in Italy.
Yes the machine is very bling and the dispaly is very big compaired to the Maytag.
Will keep you posted and hope to add more videos soon.
Cheers
Paul
Hi Mike.
It was Whirlpool Servicing who came out to repair the Maytag. I think 2 weeks and 4 days is a bit of a long time to have to wait for a repair. The Which Legal Team certainly got things stirred up at Appliancecity. When I received the phone call from them saying I could have any machine I wanted, I was in shock, lol. I was going to have another Maytag, but was put off with the trouble I had with the last one.
I didn,t have much time to choose and when I decided to go for the Hoover I then has second thoughts. Up to know it seems a good machine, love the 8 jests and the spin on start up, lots of bubbles in the machine.
The Duvet programmes is a bit of a let down. I would of liked to be able to choose at least 60c for a duvet. Also the all in one programmes lets you mix whites and coloureds. I always wash my whites and coloureds seperate and my whites always go on a 60c wash.
I was under the impression Hoover machines are made in China, but the rating plate says made in Italy.
Yes the machine is very bling and the dispaly is very big compaired to the Maytag.
Will keep you posted and hope to add more videos soon.
Cheers
Paul
haxisfan
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Hi Paul...
Thank you for getting back to me on that.
I agree with Chestermikeuk, it doesn't strike quite the right note a Duvet wash cycle at a temperature of 30 degrees! Still, what really counts there is the potential of using such a massive drum which would easily accommodate a king size quilt, then it'd be entirely up to you which other cycle to use (with possible further personilizations, e.g. 'Cottons' at 60 with the 'sensitive care' option enabled and a lower spin speed): with that kind of water level you showed us on the clip above, I'm sure any type of load can be washed and rinsed to perfection without the need of a dedicated wash program.
Take care ;-)
Thank you for getting back to me on that.
I agree with Chestermikeuk, it doesn't strike quite the right note a Duvet wash cycle at a temperature of 30 degrees! Still, what really counts there is the potential of using such a massive drum which would easily accommodate a king size quilt, then it'd be entirely up to you which other cycle to use (with possible further personilizations, e.g. 'Cottons' at 60 with the 'sensitive care' option enabled and a lower spin speed): with that kind of water level you showed us on the clip above, I'm sure any type of load can be washed and rinsed to perfection without the need of a dedicated wash program.
Take care ;-)
sesteve
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Hi Paul
Your new machine looks great and like the stain blaster description on the buttons! Hoover used to get a hard time in Which over the last few years because of their reliability but they seem to have improved considerably now so glad you are pleased with it. What does the night and day button do? Sorry to hear that you are having to get rid of the vintage collection but can sympathise as I'm at my limit while I wait to move! Still if you want a buyer for the TL let me know and I'll definitely make room for that lol!
Take care
S
Your new machine looks great and like the stain blaster description on the buttons! Hoover used to get a hard time in Which over the last few years because of their reliability but they seem to have improved considerably now so glad you are pleased with it. What does the night and day button do? Sorry to hear that you are having to get rid of the vintage collection but can sympathise as I'm at my limit while I wait to move! Still if you want a buyer for the TL let me know and I'll definitely make room for that lol!
Take care
S
Duvet cycle & Good night option
As much as I love Candy machines, I have to say that 'Duvet' cycle is the biggest c#@p they've made in programming for a looong time. It is like a standard delicate wash folowed by a final 800spin instead of 400, and that's it! Not to mention it is shortish cycle (around 1 hour I think), so it doesn't even stay at 30 for long...
My reciepe would be Cottons 60 with sensitive care and lowest wash time selected
sesteve,
Hi, the Good Night option reduces the interim.spins to 400, because of that makes the water level higher (to keep up the good result of rinsing) and does a rinse-hold after final rinse, since final spin is usually the noisier one
In the link I attached the video with my machine (software same as Paul's Hoover) working with good night option, everything explained in detail
Dex
As much as I love Candy machines, I have to say that 'Duvet' cycle is the biggest c#@p they've made in programming for a looong time. It is like a standard delicate wash folowed by a final 800spin instead of 400, and that's it! Not to mention it is shortish cycle (around 1 hour I think), so it doesn't even stay at 30 for long...
My reciepe would be Cottons 60 with sensitive care and lowest wash time selected
sesteve,
Hi, the Good Night option reduces the interim.spins to 400, because of that makes the water level higher (to keep up the good result of rinsing) and does a rinse-hold after final rinse, since final spin is usually the noisier one
In the link I attached the video with my machine (software same as Paul's Hoover) working with good night option, everything explained in detail
Dex
hey paul
well new machine came on thursday. first load cotton 40 sensitive care final rinse started and wouldnt stop filling went all the way to the top of the door flashes E04 called hoover told me to unpug and call currys they got me a new machine on sat morning have done about 7 loads all cottons 40 sensitive care final rinse half hour ago water all the way to the top of the door E04 oh and both machines covered in scratches were the stickers were calling electrician tomorrow to check out electrics on the socket because how can i have a 5 machines that dont work!!! its sending me up the pole
well new machine came on thursday. first load cotton 40 sensitive care final rinse started and wouldnt stop filling went all the way to the top of the door flashes E04 called hoover told me to unpug and call currys they got me a new machine on sat morning have done about 7 loads all cottons 40 sensitive care final rinse half hour ago water all the way to the top of the door E04 oh and both machines covered in scratches were the stickers were calling electrician tomorrow to check out electrics on the socket because how can i have a 5 machines that dont work!!! its sending me up the pole
micks,
Calling the electrician would be a good idea, but get prepared that the socket is ok, and that it's up to the machines (all 5 of them)...
I would suggest you (in case you want to keep that model of machine) to insist they come and REPAIR the actual machine, since it wouldn't suprise me if the 3rd one comes like that too. Seems to me like a factory thing.
However the scratches you've mentioned really bug me, probably because I don't understand what and where they are and how did they come up.
Also, for now, try doing maybe some other cycle without sensitive care, there is a high possibility it would finish wash like that normally
Dex
Calling the electrician would be a good idea, but get prepared that the socket is ok, and that it's up to the machines (all 5 of them)...
I would suggest you (in case you want to keep that model of machine) to insist they come and REPAIR the actual machine, since it wouldn't suprise me if the 3rd one comes like that too. Seems to me like a factory thing.
However the scratches you've mentioned really bug me, probably because I don't understand what and where they are and how did they come up.
Also, for now, try doing maybe some other cycle without sensitive care, there is a high possibility it would finish wash like that normally
Dex
paulinroyton
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Your New Washer
Hi Micks1979.
Sorry to hear about the problems with your new machine. When your machine arrived was it covered in plastic like mine?.
I don.t know why your machine is overfilling and showing an error code. Like Dejan said call someone to check over the electrics.
Hope the next one will be ok.
Cheers
Paul
Hi Micks1979.
Sorry to hear about the problems with your new machine. When your machine arrived was it covered in plastic like mine?.
I don.t know why your machine is overfilling and showing an error code. Like Dejan said call someone to check over the electrics.
Hope the next one will be ok.
Cheers
Paul
paulinroyton
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High Water Level
Final rinse with high water level
Final rinse with high water level
Micks, that's a Fraud!!!!
hi,
machine should have come to you in plastic board wrapped up with nylon, and that whole packaging also including 3 wooden spines.
I've never heared of ''unpacking the machine in the truck'', and also remooving stickers? why on earth would anyone do that?
I assume that machine's been previously used/returned and that 2nd machine is actually the 1st one with transit bolts back.
I also highly doubt that the scratches can be on identical place on 2machines+I konw for sure that all models in that colour get stickers in factory, so, to be honest, I'm not sure you've got 2 different machines actually.
can you maybe provide more info so we can conclude opposite?
Dex
hi,
machine should have come to you in plastic board wrapped up with nylon, and that whole packaging also including 3 wooden spines.
I've never heared of ''unpacking the machine in the truck'', and also remooving stickers? why on earth would anyone do that?
I assume that machine's been previously used/returned and that 2nd machine is actually the 1st one with transit bolts back.
I also highly doubt that the scratches can be on identical place on 2machines+I konw for sure that all models in that colour get stickers in factory, so, to be honest, I'm not sure you've got 2 different machines actually.
can you maybe provide more info so we can conclude opposite?
Dex
paulinroyton
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Hi Micks1979.
Sounds like you have had faulty machines. My machine came fully wrapped, it tooks me ages to un wrap the machine.
Hope you get it sorted. Posted a new clip on my youtube.
All the best
Paul
Sounds like you have had faulty machines. My machine came fully wrapped, it tooks me ages to un wrap the machine.
Hope you get it sorted. Posted a new clip on my youtube.
All the best
Paul
I hope you'll get it sorted out.
Gosh I can now just imagine how angry was I when mine Aqualtis Broke down only after 8 months, and 2 months later they've returned me money back and I got a Candy G+...I can't even imagine how I would feel if I've had 5 faulty machines from 2 completely separate brands.
Let's hope it'll be the 3rd time lucky with Hoover.
Dex
Gosh I can now just imagine how angry was I when mine Aqualtis Broke down only after 8 months, and 2 months later they've returned me money back and I got a Candy G+...I can't even imagine how I would feel if I've had 5 faulty machines from 2 completely separate brands.
Let's hope it'll be the 3rd time lucky with Hoover.
Dex
he dex
yep think im still in shock! lol i still think it has to be something to do with electrics how on earth can i have 5 machines six if you include my dyson though that was nearly 9 years old but when it broke dyson repair guy said he thought the machine must have had a power surge becuse no matter what he did to repair it nothing would work
yep think im still in shock! lol i still think it has to be something to do with electrics how on earth can i have 5 machines six if you include my dyson though that was nearly 9 years old but when it broke dyson repair guy said he thought the machine must have had a power surge becuse no matter what he did to repair it nothing would work
paulinroyton
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Hi Mick1979.
Have you been on UK Whitegoods website. It might mention about error codes. Do hope you get things sorted.
Paul
Hi Mick1979.
Have you been on UK Whitegoods website. It might mention about error codes. Do hope you get things sorted.
Paul
haxisfan
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Hi Micks1979
Sorry to hear you're having problems with your 8-Pulse... it sounds to me like a faulty machine though... I can't see how a faulty electric socket could possibly cause this scenario. Your machine looks very stilish with the red cabinets next to it and the black floor... I hope you get it replaced though... I honestly wouldn't accept a single scratch on a brand new machine!
You got me thinking with this overfill thingy when using the 'Sensitive Care' option, I never used it on mine so I wouldn't know whether this would actually be a congenital problem with these machines! I know that the water intake system used by Hoover washers (even the older ones made by Candy) can occasionally trigger a situation similar to yours... but only in exeptional circumstances with highly irregular (intake) water pressure; however, in this case, they should pump out the excess water without halting the cycle with an error code! I deem it's not the case with yours as you had other washers plumbed in there before and you never had any such issues, unless, coincidentally... you water board decided to turn you water supply on and off
I'm confident you'll get better luck with a replacement. Bye now.
Sorry to hear you're having problems with your 8-Pulse... it sounds to me like a faulty machine though... I can't see how a faulty electric socket could possibly cause this scenario. Your machine looks very stilish with the red cabinets next to it and the black floor... I hope you get it replaced though... I honestly wouldn't accept a single scratch on a brand new machine!
You got me thinking with this overfill thingy when using the 'Sensitive Care' option, I never used it on mine so I wouldn't know whether this would actually be a congenital problem with these machines! I know that the water intake system used by Hoover washers (even the older ones made by Candy) can occasionally trigger a situation similar to yours... but only in exeptional circumstances with highly irregular (intake) water pressure; however, in this case, they should pump out the excess water without halting the cycle with an error code! I deem it's not the case with yours as you had other washers plumbed in there before and you never had any such issues, unless, coincidentally... you water board decided to turn you water supply on and off
I'm confident you'll get better luck with a replacement. Bye now.
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Gosh! You're having such a bad luck! It feels like you're cursed! :O
But if the electric plug and circuit are all right I can only think of transients on the line that damage the electronics in some subtle manner!
But if the electric plug and circuit are all right I can only think of transients on the line that damage the electronics in some subtle manner!
i now give up
third machine here! covered in scratches first load in neary at the rinse stage if it doesnt work money back one of the lg machines in the space for show only and take washing to work cant be bothered. done my back in pushing this into the space
third machine here! covered in scratches first load in neary at the rinse stage if it doesnt work money back one of the lg machines in the space for show only and take washing to work cant be bothered. done my back in pushing this into the space
haxisfan
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Definitely Foul Play There!
That's absolutely unacceptable... why should it be covered in scratches? Was it fully packaged this time? I would've refused to take delivery of it in such conditions and told the delivery men as well as to the retailer you got it from to stuff it!
What's going on with Hoover in this country? I had to have mine replaced as well because it was physically damaged. The same story back in 2004 where I was trying to get a Candy which arrived damaged... I ordered a replacement Hoover which also arrived damaged... then I had 2 more replacements before I got a satisfactory outcome with a scratch and dent free machine (which is b.t.w. still rather healthy and never had and breakdowns, not even minor ones). I had similar experiences with other Hoover/Candy appliances: it's such a shame... no wonder some people abhor this brand!
Try a Miele... even a bottom of the range one shouldn't be much more expensive than the top of the range Hoovers and LGs you've been trying. Good luck anyhow ;-)
That's absolutely unacceptable... why should it be covered in scratches? Was it fully packaged this time? I would've refused to take delivery of it in such conditions and told the delivery men as well as to the retailer you got it from to stuff it!
What's going on with Hoover in this country? I had to have mine replaced as well because it was physically damaged. The same story back in 2004 where I was trying to get a Candy which arrived damaged... I ordered a replacement Hoover which also arrived damaged... then I had 2 more replacements before I got a satisfactory outcome with a scratch and dent free machine (which is b.t.w. still rather healthy and never had and breakdowns, not even minor ones). I had similar experiences with other Hoover/Candy appliances: it's such a shame... no wonder some people abhor this brand!
Try a Miele... even a bottom of the range one shouldn't be much more expensive than the top of the range Hoovers and LGs you've been trying. Good luck anyhow ;-)
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