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To clarify about neutral drain (as you may know) ... the transmission must operate in agitate mode (~1 minute should normally be enough, longer may be needed when the parts get worn or in cold ambient temperatures if the transmission oil is thickened) before a drain period occurs to preset the neutral drain components.  It won't neutral drain if the timer is set directly to the drain period after a cycle (or spin) has ended (without agitation occurring first).

There's really no need to change the motor coupler unless it's broken, cracked, loose on the motor or transmission shaft, or otherwise obviously deteriorated in some way.  However, you may want to change it anyway if the machine still has the old-style coupler that's all plastic (without metal inserts).  The newer style fits tighter, requires more "pounding" to get properly seated (must be flush with the ends of the shafts).  Be sure to pound directly on the metal insert, not on the plastic part (I use a hex socket of appropriate size).
 
When the neutral drain components start to wear, exactly what is happening?  I cannot remember if my machine always failed the neutral drain or just most of the time.

 

How bad is it when the neutral drain doesn't work consistently?  Obviously it puts a lot of stress on the rest of the machine but mine kept on chugging away until I replaced it (and I did full loads most of the time.)

 

I've linked to a video that shows the neutral drain.  I like this guys videos.  Not thrilled about the computer generated speech but they are good otherwise.

 
 
I did that repair on one a few weeks ago.  I also changed the agitator shaft so more disassembly was involved and it was a bit messy.  Changing the oil and cleaning out the residue may not be necessary for just the neutral drain components but still is a good idea.  90-weight gear oil can be had at an auto supply.
 
Agitator Dogs

I have a neutral drain kit on order, so I started the process of disassembly. As I inspected the agitator dogs, one of them easily broke. Would it be better to buy the whole kit or just the dogs?
 
 
Only the dogs are needed unless some other part is worn.  Some have a plastic thrust washer/ring that sometimes gets worn to the point of non-existence.  If you found a kit for a steal-price ... then there you are!
 
Painting Question

Unfortunately, the porcelain top has a few deep scratches, along with some minor ones. Would it be best to sand those out and spray the surface will Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy or to try and touch them up? I've never painted a porcelain surface before. I'm assuming the entire surface would need a light sanding to provide a good surface for the epoxy to adhere to. It is in such good condition otherwise and I'd really like to make it look as close to new as possible.

(That's what happens from years of sitting in a garage with other stuff being stacked on it!)

Thanks in advance for any thoughts and advice!
 
Lint Filter?

I finally got the wash basket off this evening with a new spanner wrench and a little coaxing. I was surprised to find this on the bottom of the basket. A couple of questions: 1) What is it? The lint filter? 2) Is it designed to come off? I don't see it on any parts diagrams.

I'm concerned that it might be quite brittle with age. The only thing that I can think to do is treat it with CLR and soak it in hot water. I see some rust on the bottom of the basket but I'm sure there's more under this filter. Therefore, I want to remove it in order to take care of the rust.

Thanks for any answers and help!

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Well, I see it on this parts diagram but it seems that another part (style) is being substituted. It looks like they just insert into the four holes beneath the agitator as a substitute for the filter on the bottom of the wash basket.

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Lint filter, yes.  There are holes in the base of the basket, little fins under the agitator help move water through the filter fingers, then the lint is supposed to flush off during spin extraction.

It is removable but there were different designs through the years and some can be tricky.  There may be a retaining wire/spring up inside the neck of the basket that keeps two (or four?) anchor tabs locked into holes in the basket neck.  I had one saved from a refurbed Kenmore as an example but can't find it, so here's a parts diagram capture indicating the tabs.  If it's of this type you may have to either press all four tabs at the same time from inside the basket while pulling on it from the bottom, or try to reach into the neck from the bottom to find and release the spring clip.  One of the tabs broke off the one I had.

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As you noted on the parts diagram/listing, this style of filter was replaced by the four plugs (or two, depending how many holes are in the basket base).  There was no filter of any type on some models, not even the plugs.  You can remove the filter and leave it off if you wish.
 
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There are four tabs that hold the filter to the wash basket; I broke one, three work just as well.
Here is a link to my thread on cleaning up a DD machine including discussion of the filter.


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Thanks!

Thanks for all the info! I would not have known about the retaining! I did get the retaining ring off; however, when I started lifting the filter out, it broke into three pieces. It was pretty brittle. Fortunately, the rust is pretty minor and limited to a few of the drain holes at the bottom around the perimeter. I think I'll order a new set of those fancy new filter plugs!
 
@ Stricklybojack

I really enjoyed looking through the thread of your restoration! Now I'm curious if my machine can take a one piece agitator!
 
Progress!

This photo makes me look like a messy repair technician (which I am!), but progress is being made! All the filth on the floor came from inside the machine. Tomorrow, I'll install the new neutral drain kit in the transmission and touch up some rusty spots on the spin basket, washer frame, and cabinet. If I have time, I'll proceed to touching up the paint on the cabinet.

By the time it's all done, I think these are the things that will be done.

1) Thorough cleaning and paint restoration
2) Rust abatement inside cabinet, spin basket, and frame
3) Install new agitator dogs
4) Install new motor coupler
5) Install new clutch assembly
6) Install neutral drain kit in transmission
7) Install new drive block and spanner nut
8) Install new fabric soften dispenser

I also purchased a new drain pump. However, the old pump is working just fine, with no signs of leaking. I also decided to change out the motor coupler and clutch assembly while I have it apart. Rust is pretty minimal throughout the washer. That's one of the benefits of living in a dry climate!

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Success!!!

I installed the neutral drain kit yesterday and got the transmission installed today. It works as it should. HOWEVER, when it shifts into spin, it makes a brief growling noise but when it gets up to full spin speed the noise quickly goes away. I wonder if it's something I did in the transmission or if jostled something else around in the re-installation. I REALLY don't want to take the transmission apart again!
 
They typically growl:

When doing neutral drain, this is normal. If you hear a rhythmic growl during the first increment after wash or rinse and it goes away after the motor stops/starts again to engage spin nothing is wrong. If there is another noise beyond this there may be a problem. Can you post a video to YT and post a link here so we can hear the noise?.
WK78
 
Thanks WK78

It is very brief, maybe 2 seconds...just as it shifts from neutral into spin. Once it starts spinning (after about 2 or 3 seconds), it goes away.
 

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