Need info on vintage Garbage disposer

[hoover1060]

Recently I aquired what I believe is a late 1960's InSinkErator disposal model 77, unused in the box. I wrote to the factory asking for details and they had little info. What I am wondering is if this thing is still good to use? After almost 40 years of sitting in the box will the seals and such still be ok?
This think is built like a tank, it weighs over 25 pounds, and the disk inside looks like cast iron.
A picture is below
any advice would be greatly appreciated, this is an awesome site!

 

[programcomputer]

Nice ISE

Ahem,

You really should install that, and like with vacuum cleaner restorations; just see what happens. I can't imagine how many time (we) have found NIB vacuum cleaners, and used them immediatly without any poor results.

BTW...Is that the Penncrest CordReel in the background? I just saw a squarehood one the other day, at a yard sale. However, I had no$$$ yet as I was on my way to cash my check. When I went back...it was gone.....

"Easy come, Easy go"

By now you should know who this is....

I will let you guess tho

 

[scott55405]

Jeff, that is a beautiful garbage disposal. If you put that in under your sink I think you should put glass doors so everyone can see the beautiful turquoise color!

 

[tolivac]

Super!!! thats the same machine I have-but mine is LONG dead.You have an excellent machine.That cast rotating shredder is very effective.It also would have a cast stationary shredder ring too.these are sharper and more durable than the stampted ones ISE uses now.Also the Cast shredders are "self-sharpening and cleaning" when the machine reverses.) The one I have has the auto-reverse motor. Does yours have that? Mine needs a another start-reverse switch. Was taken from mine LONG-LONG ago.Would love to find another like yours!!!Sadly the rotor in mine is long locked up--been like that before I moved into my house. The Dishwasher drains into it-in the second bowl of my cast iron yellow enamel twin bowel sink.Also love The "steel" tag hanging from your machine. also mine was a batch feeder model.

 

[hoover1060]

Thanks for the info on the ISE, currently I have a 2002 model PRO77 in my sink. It works pretty well, and I have not been too kind to it as far as diet. Its fed everything from coffee grounds to spare-rib bones.
I'm very curious about the cast disk/fixed hammer design. I believe every disposal I've ever had has had the movable hammers, which sometimes makes for some noisy operation.
You guys have sold me, I'll install it one of these weekends and see how she does.
Yes Chad, thats the Penncrest you sent me, recently aquired a set of tools for it, new in the box.

 

[tolivac]

ISE Mod#17

The machine I have is a Model#17 which is the designation for a batch feeder-the 77 is for a continious feed.Lots of luck with it.

 

[swestoyz]

Hey, Parts!

Tolivac,

I just happen to be at work when I read though this thread - I think I can get the parts you are looking for on your unit. Let me know if you'd like me to post the parts list here for you to pick up the parts. I checked, and I can still order in the updated F/R switch!

Ben

 

[tolivac]

Ben: Don't think it would be much use in trying to repair my machine-the Reverse switch has been missing from it before I moved into my house.The shredder and motor are long locked up-the seals are still OK since it doesn't leak.I am afraid if I try to move the shredder by hand and even try to run it-the seals may go-from the long period of disuse.Thanks for the offer.Would be fun to find another vintage turquoise 17 batch feeder from a forgotten appliance shop though-like "Hoover1060"s unit.

 

[kenmore1978]

seals

If the disposer doesn't work, how do you keep it clear? Eventually the bits of food would clog the drain holes. And being an ISE, isn't there a hole for an unjamming wrench on the bottom? As for the seals, I would'nt worry about leakage, I think those seals are carbon/ceramic, very tough, and don't really "age" like rubber seals.

 

[tolivac]

I use an old Vita-Mix container as a "disposal"I also rinse the dishes before using the dishwasher.There isn't any food bits in it.It does have the "wrenchette" socket at the base of the motor.When I tried a Wrenchette it-would need a hammer to get it loose.Although -guess it would be neat to get it going again.May have to revive the project.

 

[kenmore1978]

rinsing dishes

If you switch the dishwasher drain to the type that drains directly into the drain, you could then stop pre-rinsing the dishes. It's just a piece (called the "tailpipe" that goes fromthe bottom of the sink into the trap or L piece that goes to the trap, and has a tub on the side the dishwasher drain attaches to. Takes the disposer out of the loop entirely.

 

[hoover1060]

dishwasher drain

My dishwasher doesen't drain into the disposal, its attached to the other side of the sink. I got chewed out by the man who installed my dishwasher, who argued it should be attached to the disposal. I wouldn't let him change it. I've lived in a couple of apts where the DW was hooked to the disposal, and often times stuff from the disposal would wind up in the DW...UGH!

 

[kenmore1978]

disposer junk in dishwasher

Probably because there was no air gap installed in the drain between the DW and the disposer. Often plumbers will "cheat" on stuff like that.

 

[programcomputer]

Stuff from the disposal would wind up in the DW...UGH!

I have to agree with Jeff,

I hate it when Dishwashers are hooked up to the garbage disposal. Besides, if one cleans their plates "Properly" before loading, I can't Imagine WHY this would be nescesary anyway.

I finally hooked up our General Electric Potscrubber, model # GSD980X-02 to our regular drain line, as schtick from the disposer would go backwards into the dishwasher, and NOT get clean.

I fought with this for over six months after I moved here, as to WHY after a BOL Hotpoint, in my townhouse, which ironically did a better job than this one......why a POTSCRUUBER would do such a terrible job, I mean Im sure a Potscrubber GE would do better than a cheap-o Hotpoint.

I did have mine hooked to an Air-Dam, the Hotpoint, and as was the GE...(the round slotted metal thing), but it was still not washing stuff clean. As soon, and I mean as soon as it was hooked to the regular drain line (sans disposer),I never had this problem again.

JUST my humble addition....

P.S. Well Im glad Jeff that you found attachments for the Penncrest... For whatever reason I can't find anything around here lately. I did find a nice braded GE hose to use with the Premier Commercial that you gave me, from Goodwill, no attachments tho. Hose cost me all of a quarter. However, spring's here tho, so yard/estate sales will be a comin also. Good to hear that your putting in the ISE, that thing looks like it could crush cement.

Chad

 

[programcomputer]

Or Er. Except the Penncrest CR Squarehood

Yeah,

Im still kinda bummed about that one. Someone is probably using it to clean up cat shit, in their nast apartment out at MSU.

It was a powder blue and white, as you know. Looked just like a 1060 series Convertie.

Oh well..

Chad

 

[kenmore1978]

air dam (gap)

The air dam (required by most plumbing codes) is to prevent siphoning of stuff from either a disposer (if it drains into one) or a regular drain using the special tailpipe connection. This prevents "cross connection" as it's called if the disposer or drain clog and back up. Sometime an air gap WILL clog, but you simply pull off the cap and clean it.

 

[tolivac]

In a townhome in Virginia the dishwasher drain into the disposer thru an airgap device-I cleaned it regularly-from dishwasher detergent and Va's hard water.I think the iar-gap was required by Va's codes or the Counties.It would seem if the washer drained into the disposal-wouldn't that be a "gap" of sorts.esp if the drain into the disposer was at the Top of its hopper-as mine is.-think most disposer drains for dishwashers are this way.In apartments I used to live in-the DW drained into the disposer without an air gap-unlike the Va townhome.The apartments were in Mayland.

 

[hoover1060]

Air gaps

Here in my suburb(Roselle) an air gap is not required, nor is there any requirement on placement of the disposal's wall switch.
The town north of me(Schaumburg) requires a wall switch for both dishwasher and disposal, plus the air gap.
Attached is a pic of how my stuff is hooked up...

 

[kenmore1978]

air dam (gap)

"if the washer drained into the disposal-wouldn't that be a "gap" of sort"

Not if the disposer or plumbing after it back up into it