Maytaga806 thanks for the warning before i went out and bought and tried the new version myself, i figured it would be a waste of money, it literally is making me enraged, i just don't understand how a company can just get away with making a defective product for so many years, and they literally refuse to fix the problem when there's many many many well documented cases of oversudsing, in some cases people had to tear thier floors out from damage due to the machines leaking from suds, how is it even possible nobody has sued them yet???? I seriously have been considering filing some kind of lawsuit against PG, would anyone go in with me on a lawsuit? Maybe a class action lawsuit?? I have contacted cascade for YEARS and i always get the typical response of "your waters not hot enough" or "your dishwasher may not be level" the how the heck does a dishwasher being level have anything to do with your product sudsing??? If the problem is my machine then why is it that i use every other detergent on gods green earth and have NO foaming, heck even cascades own powder or gel produce zero foaming. This issue has been bugging me for at least a decade.