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Thanks Martin for the reply! Man I am learning new things about Maytags everyday!

My theory is "A day is not wasted if you can learn something new"

This community has been and continues to be a wealth of information.

David
 
I think that this/your machine epitomizes Maytag design philosophy, and there are many design characteristics of this model that lived on in the line for many decades. It is shamelessly simple to understand, straigthforward, strudy, elegant and very smart. How many things or people can you say that about? Phil
 
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Here it is with the cabinet removed. Two ball screws in the front which hold the kick plate, three screws on each side and the back. The wiring from the lid must be disconnected through a removeable plate on the back, then pull it up, this really takes two people, although the cabinet is pretty light.

Then I hooked up the lid through the access hole so I could run the machine. It does spin!! But not fast and with no real torque. So the brake is working, but either the pin which anchors the spin spring is broken, or the key is not engaging. I hope the pin is not broken (how likely is that?) because that requires the removal of the tubs, and disassembly of the lower gear housing. I have no gasket for that repair.

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Not sure on the mechanics of this one, but is there a belt involved? Maytag used a slip belt(not gear toothed) instead of a clutch, but if the belts got worn and slippery, they did not spin well, but this is my recollection of the 60's and 70's Maytags. Is this machine direct drive? How are the conditon of the pulleys if there is in fact a belt? Usually no spin would indicate a huge mechanical transmission problem, but slow or partial wimpy spin would mean a belt issue or a motor to belt issue IMHO. Just trying to help and good luck!
 
Martin

What a great vintage machine, the first of the line is always the hottest!! And that porcelain just gleams on the top.

Can't wait for the virgin wash pictures. I pulled a much later model of this machine out of the dump in Chatham. It took me 2 hours as the whole machine had been disassembled in pieces and having never seen one before I couldn't be sure I was picking them all up. But sure enough I did and got it running and now that machine has gone from me to Robert to Greg and now to Steve118 and is still running.
I like this transmission better than the later flat one. Your machine is a workhorse I have no doubts you'll get it up and running again.

Real washer history there!!

jon
 
Hi Martin, congratulations on that beautiful AMP! I have a much later model, the 101P from around '55, and love it. You'll have many happy washloads with this one, I'm sure.

Judging by the condition of the hoses, mine sat for around 40 or so years and needed a little help to get running and back into service again. The motor started right up, and with a new belt, it agitated fine, but I was suffering from the same no-spin situation that you seem to be experiencing right now. The solenoid would energize, but the tub wouldn't spin, and it would make an odd clickety-clacking noise. You will notice in the manual, in the detailed view of the spin tube assembly, a metal collar that contains the T-key. When the solenoid energizes, that collar is supposed to drop down immediately to engage the T-key with the torque spring and get the tub spinning. Unfortunately, what happened with mine was that due to time, the collar had become a little "sticky", and was hesitant to drop down, causing the clickety-clacking. (Note: The clickety-clacking was definitely not good for the T-key either; one of these days I plan on having another one made out of hardened steel at a machine shop for a spare.) When I pulled the solenoid in manually, allowing time for the collar to drop, and THEN put it into spin, it worked fine. I lubricated the collar numerous times, and finally it freed up again and the machine was able to function normally. If you have to turn the T-key around, you can hand-tighten the stop bolt (the little screw in the back of the spin tube assembly, opposite of the collar) with the collar up in order to access it.

Hope this helps. If you have to open the machine up further, Mark (lightedcontrols) is our resident AMP expert and will give you GREAT advice on what to do.

--Austin
 
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Of course it works!! I inspected the collar, as Austin suggested, and sure enough it was real sticky. I sprayed WD-40 in the hole where you can remove the key. That and some manual application of the solenoid, and the collar was moving freely. After powering it up it went right into a good spin.

So, I put the cabinet back on, installed a new drain hose from Ace hardware, new supply hoses, and a ground wire. I left the original power cord on because it has "Maytag" stamped on the plug.

It still needs to be re-leveled and/or the lid switches adjusted, because it doesn't shut off the water when full, it starts to agitate, kind of an unintentional over-flow rinse/wash.

Next, I need to install a by-pass switch so I can watch it open, amazingly enough this is described in the manual as a demonstration switch panel!!

Thanks Austin for you help. It is amazing that a 57 year old machine needed only a little playing around to function.

Martin

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So, basically, the agitator cap needs to reveal and rise itself with a proper er,vertical erection as a response to the water level in order for the darned thing to work?
 
Hi Guys
I don't often post but log into this wonderful site 3 or 4 times a day. That AMP brings back a wave of memories.

That is very definitely a 1949 Maytag AMP; the first automatic Maytag produced. My Dad surprised my Mom with this very same machine for their anniversary that year. I still remember the solid mechanical "clang" sound when it went into the spin!

My Dad bought it from "Paul's Appliances" on Pico Blvd in West Los Angeles. This was a small "Mom and Pop" business in an old store front building. He was an "authorized" Westinghouse Dealer. However, 90% of his business was repairs of all makes!
He had immigrated to the US from Austria in 1928 and still spoke with a thick accent.

He had 1 Westinghouse Slant front in the front window. But when you walked the front door, you were in the repair and service area!

He had done repairs for my Great-Grandmother, Great-Aunt and Grandmother ( Dad called them the "Generals') since 1930! When a new appliance was purchased, only Paul could do this. He could order any brand from the wholesaler; do a small retail markup and everyone was happy!

So when Mother told Dad that she would have nothing but a Maytag, and to avoid upsetting the "Generals", Dad went to Paul!

For the next 14 years, that machine averaged 12 to 15 loads a week; including my dad's ( a brick mason) concrete and sand coverd work clothes. During that time it only needed 1 repair!

My parents decided to build a new home in the San Fernando Valley in 1957. They sold the house in West LA and put all household goods into storage at Bekins while they built the new house. We moved in with the Grandparents for the 1 1/2 years it took to build the new house. Dad had close friends in all the trade fields so the house was built on the weekends!

When the machine came out of storage, Guess What? It started, filled and agitated. But when it was time for the familiar "solid mechanical clang sound" of the spin...nothing happend!

Paul was summoned, drove the 40 miles to the new house, brought an old Bendix Economat as a loaner, and took the AMP back to his shop for repairs! 3 weeks later, after daily calls from Mother asking about his progress, the Maytag came home and Mother gladly paid the $75.00 repair charge! Paul reminded her that he warned her about this, when he had done the pre-storage disconnect. Guess these old work-horses didn't like to be idle!

Finally, on a gray January day in 1963, Paul was summoned. He examined the now quiet and un-reponsive "patient". Quietly shaking his head, he explained to Mom that the AMP's tranmission had failed, her timer was questionable and he "had a feeling" about the motor.

Mom went into mourning! In an effort to make her feel better, my grandmother surprised Mom with a new Frigidaire Custom Delux as an early birthday gift. Grandmother, a died in the wool Westinghouse fan, had heard about Frigidaires at her bridge club. In her mind, all top loader were the same. But since the Frigidaire came from General Motors, the same company that built her new Cadillac, it had to be superior machine!

From the day in late January, 1963 when Paul delivered the Frigidaire, until her death in 1977, Mom hated that machine! Some how she felt it didn't clean well; to the point that she double washed Dad's work clothes! In reality, the real reason was because it didn't say "Maytag" on the panel.

Sorry for the long post, I just took a trip down memory lane.

Have a Great Time with your "new" old Maytag! She is a Beauty!


Best Regards

Bob Donham, Sioux Falls
 
It's good to haer from ya Bob. I was wondering how y'all were doing just last week, hadn't seen one of your infrequent posts in a while. Bob
 

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