New GE Dishwasher Line

[henene4]

Lets move on to mid range dryers.
A normal, brand named vented dryer in Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/AEG-T75175AV-A...7?s=appliances&ie=UTF8&qid=1378237728&sr=1-27

And in the US:
http://www.amazon.com/Maytag-MEDX60...0?s=appliances&ie=UTF8&qid=1378237766&sr=1-50

Now again, the US modell is arround 50€ more expensive the the German modell.
And if you look closer, the modells are nearly the same heigth on options etc. while the US modell is again bigger. Again, nearly the same price-for-value, US just slightly ahead.

 

[henene4]

But now we move on to the real TOL modells of vented dryers. Keep in mind, 9 of 10 German dryers are condensing ones:

The TOL German Miele vented dryer:
http://www.amazon.de/Miele-7934-Abl...0?s=appliances&ie=UTF8&qid=1378238015&sr=1-10

And the TOL US LG dryer:
http://www.amazon.com/LG-SteamDryer..._9?s=appliances&ie=UTF8&qid=1378238071&sr=1-9

Now, the german one does coast 770€ while the us one coasts 1200€. Now compare the dryers features:

The Miele speaks for relaibility, has all necessary functions and options and a honeycomp drum.

What the LG offers more is Steam, more space (rughly twice as much), and a few more cycles.

Now is this worth 430€ Dont think so and as the Miele will live longer then LG (you know it will), here we have a better price-for-value in germany.

 

[foraloysius]

Let's stick to one example, the mid range.

The AEG is €406.50. In American dollars that is $535.69

The Maytag is $599.99. So the Maytag is a bit more expensive.

The AEG is a 7kg model. $535.69 : 7 = $76.53 per kg capacity.

The Maytag with it's 7.4cu ft (210 liters!) capacity can at least dry 10kg of laundry. $599.99 : 10 = $59.99 per kg capacity.

So per kg capacity the Maytag is much cheaper!

 

[henene4]

Yeah, but on price, it is cheaper, and really, is volume all that matters? IF the EU would need this size, it would be cheaper, too. And here we have 24 months warranty, the US only 12 months.

 

[foraloysius]

Ofcourse the capacity matters!! A big fridge is more expensive than a small one too!

Don't bring the warranty into this matter, it depends on the store you buy things. Again it's comparing apples and pears. American stores are more tolerant when it comes to taking back things, much more than European stores. You have to know what you're comparing, otherwise it makes no sense at all!

 

[henene4]

Yeah, but as the WARRANTY is something other then takeing back things you bought. The warranty is written down in the German law, and of course, the companys will let you pay for that. While the US only has a 12 month warranty, they dont have that much warranty cals.
And as it is know: YOU have to know what you are talking about.

 

[foraloysius]

You only make more clear that it is hard to compare prices between European and American appliances. Therefor I rest my case.

 

[chris74]

LG with 7.4 cu. ft.

This is 210 litres as Louis stated correctly. I assume this is a lot bigger than the standard Euro dryers?

 

[henene4]

Yes of course, it is round about 100l more, but then, again, as he hisself said, if something like bigger drums in dryers or the condenser version of a dryer is more common in any state, it get's cheaper because it is more common. That's the same both in the US and the EU, so this neutralisizes itself again.
But his argument that 2 different warranty-times make it even more hard to compare is just non sense:
In the price for value system, that is just like any other point that has to be mentioned: One time, you get more metal for you money, the other time, you get more warranty for your monney.

 

[chris74]

Back on topic

So, is GE more a kind of a BOL manufacturer? As I've written, EU makers of appliances are more conservative when it comes to gimmickery...

Or is there anything really new on IFA '13 besides less energy and water consumption?

 

[henene4]

Hasn't started up yet, but Miele will launch Series 6000 dishwashers, the new T1 washer/dryer generation probably. AEG launched new dishwashers with ca. 15 plate settings. Bosch has just some gimmicks, and Panasonic: I dont know....

 

[chris74]

Panasonic dishwashers?

I've read that they will have a joint venture with Gorenje...

 

[foraloysius]

Christian

I guess you could say that GE is a MOL manufacturer, but then again with the disappearance of the independent Maytag company a real American TOL manufacturer is not available anymore on the American dishwasher market.

 

[chris74]

That means...

...there is no rivalry to Míele?

 

[henene4]

Nope, not at all....

 

[foraloysius]

LOL

 

[logixx]

Now online:

 

GE Appliances: Shop for Home, Kitchen, & Laundry Appliances

GE Appliances is your home for the best kitchen appliances, home products, parts and accessories, and support.

products.geappliances.com

 

[lightedcontrols]

10 years ago...

About 10 years ago I bought a 30" Dacor Dishwasher. It had spray arms on the bottom, middle, and the top. All were full sized. The best thing about it though was it also had spray tubes (like the real GM Frigidaire) under the upper rack. It was the quietest dishwasher with the best washability that I've ever owned. Unfortunately the good people at Dacor couldn't make them not leak at the corner of the door. They bought the machines back from me, paid to have the cabinet modified for a regular sized dishwasher, and let me keep the machines. Didn't take me long to figure out how to make them not leak! I installed one in my laundry room and use it to clean my electronic air cleaners. Love that dishwasher. The spray tubes really made the difference! Mark

 

[logixx]

Woops

Here's the link on more time:

GE Appliances: Shop for Home, Kitchen, & Laundry Appliances

GE Appliances is your home for the best kitchen appliances, home products, parts and accessories, and support.

products.geappliances.com

 

[whirlykenmore78]

A real Ameriacan TOL manufacturer

is not available anymore on the American dishwasher market.

 

Not true at all.  The USA is home to HOBART!  While they only build commercial dishmachines, potwashers and glasswashers,  their machines are better built and better performing than that of ANY other make domestic or commercial!

 

There is also the KitchenAid brand which are TOL domestic machines.  Founded by Hobart and now a TOL WP line.  

WK78