My LGs rinse three times on all but two pre set programs. If I want,I can have an extra rinse but,three do the trick. In fact,my second rinses are crystal clear. Extremely quiet,still operation and HUGE capacities. On both 4.0 and the 5.1 capacity models, I was able to readjust the pressure valve increasing the water levels up to the door handle base. That increases the tub turbulence and makes a more dramatic wash cycle to enjoy watching. Rarely ever do I have any issues. After all the rebuilding of two out of three sets, I have really grown even fonder of these great toys in my "sandbox". Their priceing has gone down considerably since 2000 along with noticeable improvements in all LG appliances. You can now get their new WaveForce top loaders without a backsplash for just under $600 or a 4.0 cu ft front loading Tromm for under $700. Those were prices from Home Depot. Sears has a Frigemore set,similar to the Affinities for around $999. Not the best choice but great price for a matced,Deluxe set. Their capacity is the same as SQs. But a lot less expensive. The lack of a button trap also keeps me far away from ANY Electrolux made laundry product.[this post was last edited: 7/6/2014-17:38]