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I am really surprised no one has posted this??!?

I sold my first pair today. The MVWB765 and MVWB766 are the same machine except the 766 will have a 5 year parts and labor warranty and a 10 year parts only warranty on the motor and tub. Oh, and the 766 is available ONLY at local dealers, not big box retailers!!!!!!

So you have a top load machine, dual action agitator and a glass lid.... Kinda awesome. Oh and the 5 year warranty! 899/949 for the 765 and 766.

Another model is MVWC416 for 649.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "dual action" agitator appears to be all one piece. How would that possibly be "dual action" if it cannot move freely to pull the clothes down as it washes? Looks like just an impeller with a post down the center, so actually no better than anything already out there in the way of top loading machines.
 
Those are good looking machines.

I would like to see how that one piece corkscrew handles a large load of laundry though. Wouldn't it slow rollover?
 
From what i am understanding, its dual action because the plate moves independently from the tub, and both are moving all the time. We have a live demo unit coming on the floor, so i will post a video when it arrives this week.
 
They're such gorgeous machines, especially the flagship low-profile wash plate design. That black chrome look is beautiful, so long as it holds its shine with age. I love the design refresh of the shape of the control panel and where the lid meets the cabinet. Very sleek and minimal.

But my FAVORITE change is that the dispensers are back on the cabinet, rather than that dreaded drawer. I knew when the VMAX designs first came out they'd have some bugs to work out, but this go around looks greatly improved. It looks like a nice update to the Bravos XL-Oasis of mine. Though I'm still very happy it.

My issue would be the "corkscrew" agitator. I'm not sure why they wouldn't have designed it as a true dual-action, but with the auger turning in reverse. Even in deep water mode for these new machines, the clothes still roll from the middle to the outside, so having the auger rotate to pull the clothes up from the center would aid greatly for large deep water loads. With the stationary auger, rollover will just be impeded the same way the first LoadSensor agitators in the Atlantis/Performas did because they were too stiff, and only a heavy load and/or hot water would allow them to turn freely.
 
Looks like

the lid lock is relocated to the center also, and only the T.O.L. one doesn't have a rear dispenser drawer. It never bothered me. It's easier to clean. It also has a circulation pump. This may aid in stain removal for low water level washing.
It's no super surgilator that's for sure.
It costs money to make a real dual action agitator with a ratcheting mechanism, and they take up more diameter in the basket.
 
The lid lock has always been in the center on these MOL and TOL machines since the original Oasis. The latch was only off to the right on low end models. Unless they're now changing the low ends to have that same latching system, then you'd be right. But so far the low ends still use the VMW drive system with the latch to the side.
 
Yes these are nicely styled machines, but if you put a nice dress and lipstick on a pig, it's still just a pig.

Those "agi-pellers" with the fake D/A corkscrew, are completely ineffective at moving clothes around. There are a few reasons for this. 1. The water level is never high enough for the auger to do anything, let alone get wet. 2. The length / reach of the auger blades aren't long enough to really do anything. 3. The auger moves the same distance either direction, so if it did push anything down, it could also pull it back up.

Earlier this year a friend bought a new Whirlpool washer to replace the 40 year old Westinghouse that rusted out. It was a low end model (w/o the dress and lipstick), but pretty much the same machine as this one underneath, with the exact same "agi-peller" inside it too. I was there for the "first load" and I loosely filled it with 6 or 7 pairs of shorts and a couple T-shirts as one would for any normal top load washer. The auger did absolutely nothing to move anything around in the tub. 5 minutes into the wash cycle, the clothes on top were still on top and dry, I started pushing them down by hand. I won't even go into how totally, completely and utterly useless the 1 minute, 1/4 full of water, "rinse cycle" is on his washer.

Personally I would never buy a top load HE washer, regardless of brand. I'll stick to my front loader, thank you very much.

Kevin
 
Kevin nailed it!

Mine still do look nice too. All shiny clean metallic silver with fancy buttons and a glass lid. Oink oink!
Now it's Samsung top loaders exploding the LG's a few years back.
 
A deep fill option would be great, but it all depends on just how effective (or ineffective) the wash-plate will be with moving garments around a tub full of water. If they programmed the agi-peller to spin longer each direction with a tub full of water, than it may just work well.
 
Except that the models with the agipeller and the low-end Cabrios like vacerator's aren't even the same machines under the hood as the flagships such as the MVWB955 or 855, or the WP 8500. So, more like a lion in comparison, also with lipstick and a nice dress.

Honestly, a quick search of the parts diagrams for comparing model numbers would go a long way. My only complaint is that WP uses three different designs that all share similar cosmetics so that when one person has one problem with one design, they pile every machine the company ever made into one bucket and complain about it endlessly. Foolishness put to music.
 
That 'bait and switch' of everything wearing the same clothing is done to benefit the big box stores...

"Why should I pay more here when I can go down to ABCSuperMartBoxCenter and get the same thing for nearly half the price?"

"Well, because the machine may look the same, but is totally different. I can sell you the same machine, at the same price, but I have to order it. There is a reason we don't have it in stock. It is a pos!"

Volume keeps the lines moving and the unions happy.[this post was last edited: 9/28/2016-17:51]
 
That makes sense, though it also seems to cannibalize the higher-end machines that actually work well, which is what has caused problems with WP's three HE TL designs. The Oasis, VMW, and VMAX designs are all labeled Cabrio, Bravos, and Oasis, so no wonder there's so much confusion between the things.
 
They used charcteristics of

the past three drive systems in the latest ones. Direct drive for all in favor of a belt for the smaller capacity VMW's, but has nothing in common with the original DD machines, nor the old belt drives. The recurculating pump harkens back to the days before the self cleaning filters when the filter was in the top under the lid.
The world washer was the first to use a reversing motor instead of a sector gear for agitation. These are based on that, with no clutch, thus no brake. Static drain has always been a whirlpool feature. The compact world machines didn't spin rinse even.
It's all about production cost.
I wasn't aware Whirlpool employees in Clyde Ohio were even union. Is it the IBEW?
Well I would support them again, but with a front loader perhaps.
I believe in livable incomes for them. The parts are made cheaply in Mejico.
 

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