New Speed Queen TC5

[lowefficiency]

>> Although I am happy with my Maytag, I probably will try and get one of these Speed Queens
>> before they have to be discontinued because of the newer regulations in 2021???

Anyone have any details on this? I hadn't heard of the new regulations, or what they would entail...

 

[pierreandreply4]

small question

small question when do you think speed queen will update there website with the 2019 line of washers and dryers and nice to see just from the vid that they keep the modern look but went back to the old fashion agitation system and no lid lock models

 

[deltablu]

Just put our first set on the sales floor yesterday.

 

[lukes]

LowEfficiency,
The new standards go into effect 2024 I think
https://appliance-standards.org/product/clothes-washers (residential regulations)
https://appliance-standards.org/product/clothes-washers-commercial (commercial regulations)
https://appliance-standards.org/blog/new-spin-clothes-washer-efficiency-coming-january-2018 (discusses 2018 standard)
https://appliance-standards.org/national#National Table (all residential appliances)

pierreandreply4,
I wonder if they are trying to clear some stock of the 2018 & 2019 residential machines

 

[peteski50]

Speed Queen!

They just added it to their website!

https://www.speedqueen.com/products/top-load-washers/models/TC5

 

[DADoES]

 
I don't understand amidst all the ruckus about ever-rising efficiency and shrinking water-usage standards how SQ can market this model with no water level control, choice of either default half-ish fill or a couple inches more Deep Fill option.  And same for WP on the WP & MT home/commercial VMW models.

 

[frigilux]

I don't understand the lack of a water level control, either. Doesn't make sense.

Website: The video labelled "Classic Clean"on the TC5 page actually shows the wash action for the TR transmission-less machines.

 

[48bencix]

Warm Rinse

Specs say Warm Rinse possible!!

 

[thomasward00]

They had to make compromises with the TC5

They had to make compromises with the TC5, as regulations become tighter and tighter companies are forced to use Auto Fills, the TC5 can't do that.

 

[maytag85]

The regulations on modern machines are ridiculous, and some just don’t make any sense what so ever. If I want a full tub of water, I want a full tub of water. If I want to have a warm or cold rinse, give me a option of a cold or warm rinse, and don’t force me to only have the option of a cold rinse! Thank goodness I have my Maytag A606 and A810 that have the option of a cold or warm rinse!

 

[thomasward00]

I agree 100% But

I agree 100% but that isn't the world we live in, Energy regulations will become more stringent over time and if the Democrats get in the White House expect the EPA to push even further, they will come after dryers next.

 

[DADoES]

 
Yes, the TC5's old-style mechanism can't do load-size sensing (although WP figured a way to do it, at least to some extent, on the DD).  So instead of providing a control with choice of 3, 4, 5, or even fully variable water level, the regulations are met by hard-wiring it to either half-full or half-full + 2" no matter what's the actual load size.  Makes no sense, LOL.

 

[iiijohnnymaciii]

From what I've seen on youtube, deep fill is all the way to the top of the tub.

 

[DADoES]

 
This cycle matrix chart was posted in a previous TC5 discussion thread.

The water levels are stated as being X" of depth and X gallons quantity, varying slightly per the selected cycle with deep fill adding 2" or 3" more depth and 3 or 4.5 gallons.

Normal-Eco:  9" (13 gal) or 11" (16 gal)

Heavy Duty, Perm Press, & Delicate:  10" (14.5 gal) or 13" (19 gal)

Bulky/Sheets:  11" (16 gal) or 13" (19 gal)

Kirk shows the two level choices available on Delicate in this video.

 

[mrb627]

Cycle Matrix Inaccurate

I don't believe that cycle matrix is 100% accurate.
How does the Heavy Soil setting on Normal-Eco add 32 minutes to the cycle?
And Medium agitate speed on PermPress?

Malcolm

 

[DADoES]

 
Delicate agitation is intermittent low speed per Kirk's video ... Perm Press may be non-intermittent low speed which they're considering as "medium?"

 

[pinkpower4]

Is there a demo of the Permanent Press Cycle yet?

I would like to see the permanent press cycle if someone can demo it.

Thanks.

 

[logixx]

I'm guessing Normal + Heavy Soil is the Consumer Reports testing cycle, so the time was increased to get a better cleaning score.

 

[frigilux]

If the Normal/Eco + Heavy Soil cycle time is actually 59 minutes long, I'm assuming the extra time isn't all agitation. Probably an agitate/short soak/agitate/short soak scenario. If it is an additional 20+ minutes of high speed agitation, Alliance had better triple the size of the dryer's lint filter, LOL.

 

[logixx]

Not all agitation

That's what's done in Australia on the older gen washer when selecting Normal + High Efficiency. The time jumps from 30-ish minutes to 2:45 hrs. due to several soak phases during the main wash.