Looks like Whirlpool has brought back their "traditional" VMW with a true dual action agitator. It even has an option to fill it up to the highest setting, whatever that may be. Looks like it's a recent release. WTW4616FW. Maybe they've finally realized that some consumers want something other than an agipeller.
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vacerator
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Just my opinion
from experience.
No, just no. I wouldn't give it even a look. But then, to each their own choice.
I bought the very first VMW compact "world washer" in 1994 for a temporary apartment. My dad told me to return it and get the 3/4 scale D.D type. I used it for the year then sold it. It worked fine when it wasn't dancing across my kitchen. No spray rinse either.
After 20 years with a dependable care Maytag and not one repair, now a Brvos X that is junk from when new in 2011.
Now low and behold, the VMW is all they make.
from experience.
No, just no. I wouldn't give it even a look. But then, to each their own choice.
I bought the very first VMW compact "world washer" in 1994 for a temporary apartment. My dad told me to return it and get the 3/4 scale D.D type. I used it for the year then sold it. It worked fine when it wasn't dancing across my kitchen. No spray rinse either.
After 20 years with a dependable care Maytag and not one repair, now a Brvos X that is junk from when new in 2011.
Now low and behold, the VMW is all they make.
joeypete
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Interesting. I'm amazed at how much has changed with washers in just the last few years. Manufacturers are keeping up with gov't regs but then keep tweaking everything LOL. It seems as with each revision machines are getting back to more of what they "used" to be in terms of what consumers are accustomed to. This washer is pretty basic, but thorough. Only 3 cycles basically...just like the old day! haha.
This is def an improvement but I still like GE's idea of being able to add water incrementally to any cycle or fill completely. Nice to see the dual action agitator back though! [this post was last edited: 5/13/2016-18:01]
This is def an improvement but I still like GE's idea of being able to add water incrementally to any cycle or fill completely. Nice to see the dual action agitator back though! [this post was last edited: 5/13/2016-18:01]
vacerator
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I know,
the old GE washer with the cement block that balanced it was pretty simple and trouble free. Though having grown up with torn down WP and Kenmores in our garage, even I was shocked the fist time I saw one.
I know nill about modern GE washers. The high end top loaders seem similar to Samsung or LG. Water levels are nice to have, or one can opt for a front loader.
I have not even seen a GE Profile F.L. in a store since the Profile with the triangular door.
the old GE washer with the cement block that balanced it was pretty simple and trouble free. Though having grown up with torn down WP and Kenmores in our garage, even I was shocked the fist time I saw one.
I know nill about modern GE washers. The high end top loaders seem similar to Samsung or LG. Water levels are nice to have, or one can opt for a front loader.
I have not even seen a GE Profile F.L. in a store since the Profile with the triangular door.
I saw this model recently at H H Gregg
And was stunned to see a return to a real agitator. I noticed a new Kenmore model similar as well at the Sears outlet here.
I recently treated myself to a new Kenmore dryer and while familiarizing myself with the KM line, their prices, and other WP products, I studied current washers too. Until I saw the new agitator WP and KM washers, the only things related to old school were GE and Hotpoint low end machines (besides Speed Queen of course). I concluded most new top load washers are not for me besides SQ. I am intrigued by the new Whirlpool model though. Love the white porcelain basket.
I think the reason why these are back is simple...look at consumer reviews of recent models with the agipeller. They seem to be the machines people love to hate. Of course one of the top offenders in the Whirlpool arena seems to be the lid lock, and that has to remain.
It will be interesting to see what happens to these models in the next year as to whether they expand in availability or go away again.
Gordon
And was stunned to see a return to a real agitator. I noticed a new Kenmore model similar as well at the Sears outlet here.
I recently treated myself to a new Kenmore dryer and while familiarizing myself with the KM line, their prices, and other WP products, I studied current washers too. Until I saw the new agitator WP and KM washers, the only things related to old school were GE and Hotpoint low end machines (besides Speed Queen of course). I concluded most new top load washers are not for me besides SQ. I am intrigued by the new Whirlpool model though. Love the white porcelain basket.
I think the reason why these are back is simple...look at consumer reviews of recent models with the agipeller. They seem to be the machines people love to hate. Of course one of the top offenders in the Whirlpool arena seems to be the lid lock, and that has to remain.
It will be interesting to see what happens to these models in the next year as to whether they expand in availability or go away again.
Gordon
The model posted above only locks for spin, and otherwise just stops...
maytag line
I wonder what will become of the maytag line.
I wonder what will become of the maytag line.
So far, I can only see cosmetic upgrades in Maytag's line.
joeypete
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Wow!
Maytag's getting some bling! Andrew will like that! hahaha ;-)
Maytag's getting some bling! Andrew will like that! hahaha ;-)
vacerator
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Yes WOW!
as if bling makes it go!
as if bling makes it go!
Tempted
To buy it just to play with it. But it still has the stupid lid lock.
To buy it just to play with it. But it still has the stupid lid lock.
I do agree about the GE's flexibility. Seems like they are letting the user choose exactly how they want their machine to wash, vs whirlpool's forced settings (IE no add water setting). Much better wash programming. I wish GE's physical quality was up to par with WP. They seem to be a step behind, yet a bit more expensive.
joeypete
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I agree on the quality. WP's stuff is pretty solid I have to admit. My Kenmore was built very well. Though my Hydrowave wasn't bad either, but you can tell the difference. These new machines by GE seem better though. The knobs felt very solid. The new WP that just came out does give a little more flexibility...at least the ability to use deep fill on any cycle instead of it being a dedicated cycle or bulky cycle. But GE still has the upper hand with the incremental water adding. I could totally see myself letting the machine pick the size then determining if it needs just a wee bit more (or a lot!). Very user friendly.
vacerator
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Lid locks
are here because of high spin speeds. Safety first! Not so good on a refrigerator though when a kid crawls into an old one.
are here because of high spin speeds. Safety first! Not so good on a refrigerator though when a kid crawls into an old one.
lordkenmore
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Lid locks are here because of high spin speeds
Or because of lawsuit worries?
Or because of lawsuit worries?
vacerator
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I almost
said that too before. Absolutley!
said that too before. Absolutley!
lordkenmore
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Am I right in thinking that lid locks were also used on some washers like WCI products because the tubs wouldn't stop spinning fast enough for legal requirements when the lid opened? The lock was presumably cheaper than a good brake system.
@joeypete - I'm drooling over that new Maytag!!! It'll be interesting to see it in person, but I love the color and styling of the wash plate, and the exterior. That sleek minimalistic design makes it look almost like something Apple engineered. I have to say, as much as I adore my Bravos XL because of its styling and robustness, I almost wish I had taken their offer of getting one of the new VMAX machines. They've been growing on me more and more lately, but at the time I just didn't want to be the guinea pig for a new design platform before they had a chance to work out the bugs.
