Oasis or Cabrio?? Knows someone something about it??

[askomiele]

I've heard about a kenmore Oasis or a Whirlpool Cabrio. Has someone seen some info about those machines. Are they the same as the calypso's? Or are they just classical aggitator washers? I've looked on the sites of sears or Whirlpool but not Oasis neither Cabrio?

 

[foraloysius]

I've saved some pictures from THS. I think there is some similarity to the GE Harmony.

 

[foraloysius]

The washer

 

[foraloysius]

Control panel

 

[foraloysius]

Inside

 

[varenovator]

Oasis is for sale in California

The THS thread has the Oasis on the sales floor in California so far (that's where the pictures came from). I know the Sears in VA are clearing out the old models to get ready for new ones -- the sales people don't know anything about the Oasis yet, but I'm hoping it will show up around the end of the month. It is surprising that Sears.com doesn't have anything on it yet. I called customer service, and their own reps had no info on it (ended up calling a store in CA to let me ask my questions to the sales manager directly). The Whirlpool Cabrio was only introduced this week at the builders' show, so I wouldn't expect to see them for several months.

The wash plate looks similar to the Harmony, and probably works in a similar manner. Capacity is huge (3.89 cf DOE vs 3.53 for Harmony). No internal heater on the Oasis, however.

 

[frigilux]

Gotta love that moon-roof! I would jump all over this, but I want to find out if it has the same linting/tangling/wrinkling issues as the ill-fated Calypso. I guess all Calypso owners now have a collector's item, along with the TL Maytag Neptune owners.

 

[SactoTeddyBear]

Re: Oasis Sales:

They are only available in the San Francisco area for Sale at this time. I found out from my Salesman Friend here at one of the Sacramento Sears Stores, that the SF area is a "Test" area at least for the Western States.

I would assume that if someone was interested enough in making a purchase and lived in or close enough to the Bay Area, that you could go to the Sears there for Purchase and do the Installation yourself.

That is what I would do, if I had the $$$ and was interested enough in wanting to check them out.

Peace and Happy Kenmore Elite Oasis and WP Cabrio Inquiring Minds, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"

 

[appnut]

The Bay aera was also one of the very first areass to have the "new" HE3T front load washer in 2001.

 

[laundromat]

Oasis/Cabrio

I had the pleasure of going to the builder's show today and was delighted to see all the new products comming out this Spring.Yes Sears and Whirlpool are going to be releasing a washer and matching dryer very similar to GE's Harmony.However,there rae going to be some seriously noticeable differances as well.They are imediately noticed by the huge see thru windows on the washer lid and dryer door(alas just as they have done with their HE3T and HE4T the Kenmores have a smoked glass that is not as easy to see thru as Whirlpool's clear glass models are)then the impeler is made of polly not stainless steel,the tub is identical to the one in a Fisher Packel,there are 3 dispesers on the sides as you open the lid on the washer,the design is truly unique and verry streamline.
The LG's now have a built in steamer in their front loader and have redesigned the style a bit including a newer style door,interior light in the washer,a full line of beautiful electric ranges all with thermal/convection ovens made of a thick/blue speckled porcelain on steel finish.The heating (bake)elements are compltely hidden beneath the oven base.
GE's new line was also impressive including a new round of electric ranges all with glass touch controls eliminating the "cheap"plastic touch pads that were vulnerable to wear and tare.Their new front loading washer with the matching dryer are sure to cause some friction due to their similarities to the Duets at about half the price.
While at The Home Depot's booth,we saw two new refrigerators that were different brands but had the same idea using almost the same method.Maytag has released(HD will have it beginning this Friday exclusively for 30 days before anybody else)One is a Maytag.It is a French door/bottom freezer model with ice and water on the door!!! What they have done is made a special space in the refrigerator on the left side at the verry top to place an ice maker in a small freezer zone placed exclusively there to make icecubes and store them keeping them frozen untill needed.The Lg model placed theirs on the left door which takes away quite a bit of door space but no matter how you do it,you're going to have to lose the space somehow.I was more impressed with the use of the space in the Maytag than I was with the LG.
Whirlpool/KitchenAid has also been working on some fresh ideas including an over the range hood/oven that looks so much like it's made by LG.The rounded interior gives it away but,Their newer styles and designs are beautifully eligant and looked stunning in the kitchen set ups the had them in.
I was glad I brought extra clothes along because I was so thrilled to get to see so many new products being unvaled I "creamed my jeans" twice!!! LOL

 

[appnut]

chuck thanks for all the information. I always seriouisly appreciate it. LG's light int he washer is enough for me to do that to my jeans. The GE frontload pair you mentioned, is that the current one on the market or is it the set upcoming later on this year.

 

[appnut]

Chuck, Whirlpool and Fisher & Paykel have a technology agreement between the two. I.E. the KA dishdrawe3rs. And F&P is going to begin producing their top load dryer in Clyde Ohio later on this year. Wouldn't surprise me to see KA brand on F&P laundry.

 

[DADoES]

<blockquote>laundromat said: the tub is identical to the one in a Fisher Packel</blockquote>
Not unless F&P has changed the basket design very recently. My 2004 IWL12 has the same basket design as my 1999 GWL08, and it's not quite like that. Similar, but not identical. The Oasis basket doesn't appear to have the horizontal corrugations.

F&P GWL08 Basket Interior

F&P GWL08 Basket Exterior

 

[sudsmaster]

Maytag's idea of having ice in the french door is a good one. The separate freezer bin for the ice might help prevent the ice from picking up off-odors from the fridge compartment. but I wonder what it does to the energy rating.

On a tangential note, I saw an undercounter version of the Whirlpool Gladiator at Costco yesterday. It has the same diamond plate door panel as the big one, but it's all fridge, no freezer. Only 6 cu ft, but probably enough for a few six packs or even a keg. It has a lipped shelf on top of it, and rides on little casters. The advantage of the Gladiator series is that unlike standard fridges, they are designed to work properly even when the ambient temp dips below 55F.

I wasn't aware the LG washers had tub lights. Is this a new feature?

 

[appnut]

Rich, yes tub light is new.

 

[laundromat]

GE front loaders

The GE company has already introduced their new front loaders nationwide however,they differ in the cycle selector dial.Some have a rinse & spin cycle setting and some have a drain & spin setting.It depends on what dealer you shop.They (GE) do this to be able to keep competitive shopping to a minnimum.Because of the features and super capacity,at $749/washer & $699/electric dryer,The GE's sell all day long.I must say GE has been pretty smart in their marketing skills lately.The newer models that have different features and are a step up from these will be unvailed around June of this year.
There is a dealer up the street that sells Fisher Packel and has numerous matched sets brand new(scratch and dent)top of the line including the verticle axis dryers at $599/washer and $499/electric dryer.As much as I am realitvely oposed to top loading /agitator washers,for some reason they caught my interest.any coments on whether or not anyone recomends them or not?I know the brothers(Dominique & mike)and sometimes help them out on my days off.I got a few items from them either real cheap or free like a GE Profile front loading washer and dryer that was dropped off the truck but not damaged,A Sharp 2.8 cu. ft.microwave convection oven,a coppertone Maytag A806 washer with the matching dryer,and a 1967 Lady Kenmore washer with all pushbutton cycles.

 

[DADoES]

Chuck, I've had Fisher & Paykel laundry since 1999. First a GWL08 and DE04 (which have moved to my grandmother's house), and now an IWL12 and DEGX1 (topload dryer). They're a lot of fun. $599 is a good price for a DEGX1 or DGGX1

 

[laundromat]

Thanks,I went to look at them again and will be buying the set for $750! I made a deal and promised Mick I would buy the GE service plan on them both if he gave me a good price.He also had an extra set of clear display lids that can be used regularly and is throwing them in too!

 

[foraloysius]

The Kenmore Oasis is now listed on the Sears website. It appears that there are several models.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/sear...ar+Top+Load+Washers&displayTarget=Subcategory

 

[laundromat]

Oasis/Cabrio

They must get the name from the usage of water and energy these models use (their energy guides show $48 electric water heater and $18 gas)don't have a tizzy,I am verry excited and realy like the new design (I prefer the Whirlpool over the Kenmore.I hate smoked plastic/glass lids or doors.I want to see it all!The Whirlpool models have the clear see through doors and lids!!)they have condured up.I am sure their has to be some kind of deal they have made with FP like GE has with LG on these new machines.In fact,one of the Oasis models has a verticle agitator(dual action)that actualy has rubber fins as oposed to hard polly ones!!the are extreamly flexable and seam to be a lot gentler that the pollies are!Thwy have built in dispensers that are timed and one model is equiped with a heater!There are no sharp edges and the seam in the tub is folded in to eliminate any sharp edges.The dryers are souped up Whirlpools with newly designed doors and rounded edges.The Whirlpools will be released in July this year.Either way,the price points are quite reasonable and the way things look as far as the choices in features and model sellections go,it looks to me like we are coming to the end of another era in the appliance industry.Just like the old wringer washers going out of production,it looks to me like the old ossolaters are going to follow right behind.I am seeing so many more of the impeller type and front loading tumbler machines coming out and less and less newer versions of the common agitator models.I also have a serious vision that we are going to see more and more improvements and releases of the full size combination washer/dryers.While at the K.B.I.S this year,I am planning on speaking to the V.P.of LG and asking about the possibility of their manufacturing washer/dryers that run on 220/240V and/or gas for dryer heat instead of or along with the current 120 volt versions.Home Depot will have their new line of ranges within the next three or four weeks and their new line of gigantic capacity washers and dryers with built in steaming in March.The new washers and dryers will be available in a verry dark shade of blue(midnight).Washer$1599/Dryer$1299 electric/$1349 gas.Range $1099 in colors/$1299 in Stainless Steel.The range is true convection with a speckled blue porcelain on steel intrior and door liner,a warming drawer and warming zone,all glass/digital controls NO NOBS!!!!!!! and a hidden bake element in the oven.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

What about agitation?!?!?

How will Oasis work? Will it be like the previous agitation... I mean Calypso-wash-motion?!?!?

Does anyone know what about a video? The kenmore website, is "under-construction"...

Bye...
Diomede

 

[foraloysius]

It will probably use more water than the Calypso, should be more or less the same as the GE Harmony.

 

[DADoES]

I saw an Oasis at Sears this afternoon. They had only one on display. Apparently a lower-end model (sorry, didn't get the model #), *without* a glass lid and *with* an agitator. Basically the pulsator base with four dark gray flexible fins and a dual-action stem. I don't remember clearly now, but I think it had a centrigual softener dispenser. I do recall there were a couple dispenser ports around the top, I imagine for detergent and bleach. The basket perfs are almost identical to F&P perfs, small rectangular shape punched through from the inside, but the basket is not ribbed to the degree that is F&P.

Also saw a Maytag "Ensignia" toploader with a rotary electronic cycle selector but the rest of its controls (water level, water temp, etc.) were (or felt like) typical "mechanical" selectors.

 

[bingwsguy]

Am I just a skeptic or can this kind of "agitation" really deal with huge, bulky loads as well as a front loader? I say no. Any thoughts on the engineering of it?

 

[laundromat]

Oasis/Cabrio

The way these machines work is variable meanining they do differnt things depending on the cycle sellected as well as the load size they "sence".The impeller at the bottom does ossolate but more intense and in farther strokes than a traditional agitator.the wash basket also revolves in an ossolating motion opposite that of the impeller to make the clothes not only revolve but also go from top to bottom.These do a great job on bedsreads,blankets,large stuffed teddy bears,and big bulky loads as well as smaller loads.The impeller dos not flop,it only turns reversing its direction every so often the time between reversals being different depending on the cycle,load size,or fabric.Recirculating wash and rinse water also play a roll in getting clothes cleaner and more completely rinsed.

 

[bingwsguy]

laundromat....

Thanks for the explanation. I did not understand the whole process...now it makes sense.

 

[varenovator]

I second laundromat's take. As a Harmony owner, I've watched more than my share of loads to see what's going on. If the Cabrio/Oasis works on the same basis, launromat has it right. The wash plate is more than effective, in combination with the rotating tub, to roll clothes over and get an effective wash. And it does depend on the cycle selected as far as what kind of action takes place (wash plate-only, tub spin only, and combination) and how long each action lasts. The Harmony's different cycles also use different water levels (e.g. woolite/handwash uses more water than a regular cycle).
I've washed a king sized bedspread and queen sized comforters in my Harmony, and it has no problem rolling them over and cleaning them thoroughly.

 

[the7]

It seems that only these modern TL with "disk-agitator" could wash bulky items effectively because the conventional TL with pole-agitator will destroy the bulky items.

These modern TL (say Harmony) would use about 80% more water than an modern FL (say Duet HT) and have an energy factor of about 40% more.

Besides energy aspect, it seems these modern TL are more complex in mechanical construture. The water level is of vital importance in TL because the laundry could easily be damaged by the disk-agitator if there is not enough water.
(Laundry could survive in FL even if there is no water but not in any agitator TL).

 

[user 12105]

I would dare say that many here on this site if not the majority prefer agitator washers....listen we heard all the stories about roughness and what agitators do to clothing..my opinion is some of it is true but the majority pure BS!!
Is this forum turning into another THS!!...Man i hope not.

 

[lavamat_jon]

Too true Pat... if one followed THS like the gospel they will have you convinced that every single agitator has sharp blades attached to each fin and spins at 30,000rpms!!!