Oasis or Cabrio?? Knows someone something about it??

[vivalalavatrice]

What about agitation?!?!?

How will Oasis work? Will it be like the previous agitation... I mean Calypso-wash-motion?!?!?

Does anyone know what about a video? The kenmore website, is "under-construction"...

Bye...
Diomede

 

[foraloysius]

It will probably use more water than the Calypso, should be more or less the same as the GE Harmony.

 

[DADoES]

I saw an Oasis at Sears this afternoon. They had only one on display. Apparently a lower-end model (sorry, didn't get the model #), *without* a glass lid and *with* an agitator. Basically the pulsator base with four dark gray flexible fins and a dual-action stem. I don't remember clearly now, but I think it had a centrigual softener dispenser. I do recall there were a couple dispenser ports around the top, I imagine for detergent and bleach. The basket perfs are almost identical to F&P perfs, small rectangular shape punched through from the inside, but the basket is not ribbed to the degree that is F&P.

Also saw a Maytag "Ensignia" toploader with a rotary electronic cycle selector but the rest of its controls (water level, water temp, etc.) were (or felt like) typical "mechanical" selectors.

 

[bingwsguy]

Am I just a skeptic or can this kind of "agitation" really deal with huge, bulky loads as well as a front loader? I say no. Any thoughts on the engineering of it?

 

[laundromat]

Oasis/Cabrio

The way these machines work is variable meanining they do differnt things depending on the cycle sellected as well as the load size they "sence".The impeller at the bottom does ossolate but more intense and in farther strokes than a traditional agitator.the wash basket also revolves in an ossolating motion opposite that of the impeller to make the clothes not only revolve but also go from top to bottom.These do a great job on bedsreads,blankets,large stuffed teddy bears,and big bulky loads as well as smaller loads.The impeller dos not flop,it only turns reversing its direction every so often the time between reversals being different depending on the cycle,load size,or fabric.Recirculating wash and rinse water also play a roll in getting clothes cleaner and more completely rinsed.

 

[bingwsguy]

laundromat....

Thanks for the explanation. I did not understand the whole process...now it makes sense.

 

[varenovator]

I second laundromat's take. As a Harmony owner, I've watched more than my share of loads to see what's going on. If the Cabrio/Oasis works on the same basis, launromat has it right. The wash plate is more than effective, in combination with the rotating tub, to roll clothes over and get an effective wash. And it does depend on the cycle selected as far as what kind of action takes place (wash plate-only, tub spin only, and combination) and how long each action lasts. The Harmony's different cycles also use different water levels (e.g. woolite/handwash uses more water than a regular cycle).
I've washed a king sized bedspread and queen sized comforters in my Harmony, and it has no problem rolling them over and cleaning them thoroughly.

 

[the7]

It seems that only these modern TL with "disk-agitator" could wash bulky items effectively because the conventional TL with pole-agitator will destroy the bulky items.

These modern TL (say Harmony) would use about 80% more water than an modern FL (say Duet HT) and have an energy factor of about 40% more.

Besides energy aspect, it seems these modern TL are more complex in mechanical construture. The water level is of vital importance in TL because the laundry could easily be damaged by the disk-agitator if there is not enough water.
(Laundry could survive in FL even if there is no water but not in any agitator TL).

 

[agiflow]

I would dare say that many here on this site if not the majority prefer agitator washers....listen we heard all the stories about roughness and what agitators do to clothing..my opinion is some of it is true but the majority pure BS!!
Is this forum turning into another THS!!...Man i hope not.

 

[lavamat_jon]

Too true Pat... if one followed THS like the gospel they will have you convinced that every single agitator has sharp blades attached to each fin and spins at 30,000rpms!!!

 

[varenovator]

I agree - I love my old 1991 Kenmore T/L with the agitator. If I has my druthers, we would have moved it up to the new second floor laundry, but unfortunately it won't fit (width is 58", old machines are 29" wide, new ones are 27"). I can't say I've ever had an issue with the agitator 'shredding' my clothes. The only reason I bought the Harmony was for max capacity without the FL vibration/noise worries, as well as flexibility for the 'big stuff' that the old Kenmores can't handle.

 

[sudsmaster]

I am interested in what Laundromat has to say one he's had a chance to acquire and use his new Oasis washer set.