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nickuk

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Greetings all.

Had been noticing unclean patches on clothes, eventually worked out they were oil of various sorts (mayo / cooking oil etc) not being removed from colours at 30/40 celcius.

Was using tabs at the time. Tested a range but same results with all premium stuff - Persil / Ariel (bio).

Switched to Persil bio S+M and other bio liquids (just to see), adding oxygen bleach when needed, and alas the problem is gone.

I say alas because, for a variety of reasons I prefer to use powder / tabs for all loads rather than liquids.

Has anyone else had this problem, and disovered a powder which does cope with grease, or is the only way forwards for me Persil S+M with a dunk of Vanish powder?

I always knew (as most of us do) that liquids, even dishsoap, is better at grease than powder, but I was suprised that with the complex enzymes present in premium bio powder in today's market, the problem is still there.

I'm not being overly picky - my kids' dark blue school jumpers were just getting dark patches all over them from icky hands wiped on them, now they are spotless, as they should be, with the Persil liquid.

As an aside, has anyone had any issue with Ariel bio gel putting holes in garments? The first time, I thought someone must have accidentally flicked cigarette ash on me but the third time it happened on the third garment I stopped using it and the problem went away. Memories of Persil Power!!

Take care everyone

Nick

Nick
 
Nick not in the UK but here I use the liquid ERA for spot treating of the oil/greasy type and do my usual dose of the Sears Ultra powder.  You might just trying using a liquid to treat and go with your powder of choice.
 
Dare I admit this

or even suggest?

Im guilty of cranking up the temperature when faced wih greasy stains on coloureds.

Powder all the way here but there is the odd bottle of liquid under the sink for light soiled loads and delicates.

Since changing my role at work from stock control to butcher, uniforms can get quite nasty especially my trousers where the white chefs jackets we wear does'nt shield drips of blood/grease etc from prepping joints and helping out with hot chickens etc.

Anything nasty I manage to get on my work clothes usually gets the 60 degree white nylon treatment despite it all being dark colours and easy care fibres.

If its not too bad they get the usual 50deg treatment despite the care labels hinting 40 synthetics.

Creasing is actually less on 50'c than 40'c but 60'c creases like buggery so I usually resort to tumble drying after and ironing while the stuff is still warm.

Powder always shifts it at slightly higher temps than 40'c even on less vigourous washes. Currently on Persil NB powder but usually switch between Ariel and Daz. Only got the Persil as it was on 3 for £10 and we had a double staff discount this weekend meaning 3 for £8.
Seems to do an ok job.

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I am using....

Halo sports wash. I did order some ordinary Halo liquid but found the sports wash works brilliantly on all fabrics and I don't have to order it online, it's £3.99 for 25 wash bottle in Sainsbury's and it is really the best liquid I have tried despite being non Bio. What impressed me most is it got bike chain oil out of hubby's jeans ( pre-treated with neat liquid first ) on 40 deg min iron short wash. It's anti bacterial and anti fungal so is great for gym stuff, hubby's newly acquired cycling gear, trainers, deck shoes and espadrilles. Have used it on whites with a scoop of vanish crystal white on whites 50 deg min iron and got great results. I still use Persil and a 95 deg wash for t-towels and dishcloths. I know a lot of people prefer powder but I find Halo works best for my laundry needs at the moment.

 
Thanks

Hi Westie 2 and Stan - thanks for your replies. I used to do the liquid pretreating thing, or Fairy Bar soap (I think this is equivalent to Ivory in the US) and I agree it makes a huge difference. However, since those days a) my volume of laundry has quadrupled and b)I'm not such a good person. CBA with inspecting everything, pretreating.....

Hey Rob. That kitchen looks so amazing - I so love those Hotpoint appliances. Do you find they need much maintenance, using such vintage units as daily drivers? The cabinets, tiles and earty colours look great too. I can also picture a Natural Linen Hotpoint set in there!

In terms of the grease, so it's a higher temp needed with the powder is it? The Bosch hits 45 degrees on the Easy Care 40 cycle which is the one I normally use, and that's not enough to shift it with powder. I daren't put things like kids' school jumpers up to 50 or 60, I'm sure they would shrink. Hope you are keeping well Rob. Oh, by the way as I know you are an employee - I must say that Tesco is my absolute fave overall supermarket for online delivery, have used them all. Tried Ocado last week (supposedly the nuts) - never again.

You know the other thing I have noticed - the liquid does an amazing job on grotty white school shirts. Persil S+M will perfectly clean white collars and cuffs at 40 (OK 45 lol) degrees and I never had perfect white shirts before with any powder even at 60, I had to pretreat.

Hey Paul - I am not familiar with the detergent you mention but will look out for it, is it a new brand?

Perhaps I'm having a monumental shift to liquid, but I can't pretend to be all that comfortable with it!

N
 
nickuk

Halo has been manufactured for a few yrs but only placed in Sainsburys and Tesco in the last few months. The guy who came up with the idea for this detergent was on Dragons Den but turned down their investment offer.
 
vintage?

Yes Nick they have their moments but on the whole they are reasonably reliable and trustworthy. Tempting fate but even left the house with the Hotpoint running on the odd occasion with no problems when returning.

Of all the vintage makes and models the Hotpoints have been er (Only) occasionally poorly. (No reliability wars please Mr Parker!!!!!)

I couldnt go back to a modern machine I dont think, perhaps a Bosch similar to yours if I was forced despite their biggest bug bear of not having a 50'c wash.

Back to liquids I am a fan of Lidl's Formil Big Bottle. Perhaps its the retro factor I dunno but it seems to do a good job on casual clothing up to medium soiled.

Rinses well enough too and has a pleasant enough scent.

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Lovely Hotpoint set Rob.

Nick, just re read your original post, Ariel Gel put holes in our clothes too!! Cotton t-shirts, pants and it really went to town on a couple of hubby's bamboo t-shirts. Since then I've avoided any detergent with celulose (think that's what it's called ).

I also forgot to mention that Halo detergents contain 15-30% phosphate in them.
 

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