Overflow Rinse

[toploader55]

I'm not telling one anything new... But all the older machines that provided the Overflow rinse no matter how anti-conserving they are, People never had allergies to soap and especially before Fabric Softners. I have a friend that broke out in raw skin from Downy. I bet if the clothes were washed in a Fridgidaire,SpeedQueen,kelvinator, GE, or any of the old vintage machines that had the overflow rinse there would be next to no skin or soap allergies. I have a circa 1980 Kenmore. When I observe the Rinse agitation there is a layer of suds no matter how little detergent I use. I always put in though another Rinse and it follows by two spray rinses on the final Spin Dry. I have found that Warm Rinses releases more detergent. I would love to hook up with a vintage machine that has overflow rinses. Any sugesstions which one ? I have a few in mind.

 

[blackstone]

Blackstone models 250 and 350 had overflow rinses, provided that you had sufficient water pressure in your house. The stainless tub filled by time (4 mins.), without pressure switches.

 

[laundryshark]

Overflow Rinse Comparison

Robert still has a demo comparison of a Frigidaire, Speed Queen, and Hotpoint in one of the video sections of this Web site. Merry Christmas!--Laundry Shark

 

[frigilux]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but many of us grew up in the early 1960's with washers that did not have an overflow rinse (GE, Maytag, Kenmore/Whirlpool, etc.) and didn't experience detergent reactions. I had a neighbor with a Frigidaire (a '58, to be precise) and they had 2 kids with detergent reaction issues. All their clothes had to be washed in Dreft or Ivory Snow.

Now, having said all that, I believe there is a video at this site that shows Robert's Unimatic (also a '58, I think) handling an oversudsing issue and still having remarkably clear rinse water. If you're really sold on getting a washer with overflow rinse, you should look for a Unimatic-era Frigidaire.

 

[laundryshark]

Robert's Frigidaire Demos

You're right. Robert also has demos of four models of Frigidaire washers. Two of the demos are sectioned out so as to display more detailed aspects of classic washing machine actions, including the suds action and overflow rinse.--Laundry Shark

 

[bajaespuma]

Laundress, your comment?

Seems to me that the overflow rinse feature was more relevant to the days when a few hold-outs were still using laundry SOAP rather than detergent in their automatics.

 

[sudsmaster]

Overflow rinses are great for removing suds and floaters. However, realistically, multiple rinses with spins in between are most effective at removing detergent residue. The volume of water in each rinse is less important than the number of rinses.

 

[launderess]

Not sure, but think over flow rinses on early automatic washing machines was meant to mimic wringer/tub type washing. In the later circumstances laundry would be lifted out of soapy water leaving the crud,soap scum and what not behind. This would be important if one was laundering with soap which can form nasty scum that could fall onto laundry if water were drained down through the wash, unless of course some way was found to push it either up over the wash or out towards the sides.

With solid tub automatics, there wash water for the most part is slung up and over the tub (and or also drained through holes underneath the agitator),but soapy water cannot go towards the sides and out the tub through holes as with perforated tubs.

On the whole would agree with modern detergents any method of rinsing will give good results, as they do not cause crud and scum to form if properly dosed.

 

[pturo]

Also, Laundress, weren't lint filters sort of non existent or even rare then in the days of solid tubs, so that lint allegedly went to the top of the tub and over the sides? Seems like in the evolution of perf tubs, no one knew how to deal with the lint except recirculate it and then propose new and fangled filtering systems to catch it.

By the way, sorry for any offense on a previous post. I hold you in the highest esteem, but I believe in free speech.

 

[launderess]

Am not an expert on early solid tub washers, but remember seeing adverts for early perforated tub washing machines that spoke of filtering systems.

One thing that came to me last night, is that if the overflow rinse worked by introducing water from the bottom, as the water level the tub rose it would push up solids, muck and such along with suds leaving basically clear water. Once the machine began to spin there would only be the soapy water left in the laundry to contend with. Upshot, not pulling dirty water through laundry.

L.

 

[mickeyd]

You're confusing me Dear:

What or whose overflow rinse introduced water from the bottom of the tub???????

 

[launderess]

Said "if", meaning didn't know if such a thing existed. However even if water came from from above, would have the same affect.

Know this from the few times have had a tub full of dishes, and turned on the water (with drains closed) and watched how the water filling the dish tub would over flow pushing the sudsy and muck filled water out while the fresh clean water was at the bottom. Eventually if one allowed this to go on, there would be mostly clean water in the tub. Never really got to find out as usually someone would come up from behind and shout "Stop messing about/wasting water, and get those dishes washed". *LOL*