persil

[irishwashguy]

Has anyone tried the sensativ liquid?

Went to our local Salem Walmart on mission and saw the sensativ, big family size containers of the original liquid. Both were 17.97

 

[kimball455]

Persil is available in our local Wal-Mart in Rio Grande, NJ. Got a bottle and will be giving it a try this week.

Harry

 

[aamassther]

I've been using the Persil pearls for just over two weeks now. About 15 loads later, I've found a new detergent. To me, it's on par with the German Universal powder, but not as good as the MegaPerls. I've had mostly good luck getting kitchen and household stains out. I'm using 45ml for usual loads and 65ml for dirtier loads (lines 1 and 2), as I've always done with the MegaPerls. It rinses very well, in our soft water.

The scent is a little sweeter to me than the German version, so I'm glad it rinses out. Though I like the scent.

I found links to ingredients on Henkel's global site for their German detergents. As suspected, while similar in formulation, they're different. I'm bummed that Henkel NA decided not to offer a Colour version. I've been avoiding OBA's for darks for 8-9 yrs and have noticed a huge difference. But, I realise it's about making money and the majority of the American public want one size fits all.

All in all, I'm very happy that they've brought Persil to the U.S., if they can get it out of Walmart and advertise, we may have a chance of it staying on the market. I think it's an excellent product, better than any of the American offerings. Plus, the U.S. version is way less expensive than the imported stuff.

I also hope Dial/Henkel continues to see a market here and offer the colour versions.

 

[jerrod6]

One thing Henkel could do very easily is to offer Persil for darks. This used to be named FEWA. This is their product for dark colors so I use it for washing my better dark shirts, pants and my black and blue jeans. The bottle is already in English so no translation or anything necessary - just put it on the shelves.

This is the first roll out of products so perhaps they will issue more types of detergents in the future.

 

[toploader1984]

Persil proclean

I tried the liquid, on a large load on my lg turbowash front loader, i only used 1/4 of a cap and it made so much suds the lg could not even ramp up to spin! This stuff makes more suds than regular tide! Makes me kind of angry! My german he persil makes NO suds at all!

 

[angus]

Tried the liquid last night on some kitchen towels stained with olive oil based tomato sauce. Hot water, no presoaking and no chlorine bleach. Surprisingly enough, not a trace of the stain. Pretty good given that oil based tomato sauce is a real pain to remove. I did use the maximum fresh scent - and while it was a bit strong, I don't find it objectionable. However, I do have a head cold so my sense of smell is somewhat impaired. Will have to reevaluate when my head clears up.

 

[roscoe62]

@ angus

So did you experience sudsing like toploader1984 with the liquid?

 

[launderess]

Persil Gel For Colors

At least the German version we have in our stash is very sudsy. Unless dosed correctly not only creates froth but does not rinse easily in either the Miele or Lavamat.

Gardenweb Laundry Room has chimed in and while some are thrilled with this Dial/Persil others are less enthusiastic. Being as all this may it is becoming clear the formula is *not* exactly the same sold in Germany. Am going to work with for a start things were changed in reaction to water conditions found in most of the USA. Then perhaps to keep the price point where Henkel thinks it needs to be in order to go against P&G/Tide. You'll notice on the Facebook page whenever anyone asks if these are the same formulas as sold in Germany, Persil Proclean responds "..... are made by the same company that makes Persil...." which isn't exactly the same thing.

Borax:

Is found in many liquid laundry detergents in the USA. IIRC most versions of Tide liquids have the stuff for a start. However boron is getting a bad name for itself from environmentalists in Europe. You'll notice most oxygen bleaching systems in Europe have moved from sodium perborate to percarbonate recently.

 

[passatdoc]

I agree the powder packaging looks like it was designed by an intoxicated person. Since up to now all of my Persil was brought back from Germany in small packets, for years I have simply emptied the contents into an old OxyClean container with a resealable lid to keep out moisture. My FL needs only 1-2 tbsp (15-30 ml) of detergent per load, so I use a coffee measure (30 ml) to dose my detergent. I would simply pour the US Persil into a resealable container (the Glad plastic food containers, in the proper size, would work nicely) and toss the original container. If it didn't all fit, I'd fill the container and place the unused portion of the original container on a shelf until needed, and then not worry about accumulation in the neck of the bottle.

 

[passatdoc]

ps Billie Dyer

I have friends in Bellaire OH and attended their wedding there (reception in Wheeling) years ago. Never actually set foot in Steubenville though.

 

[mich]

Um....

Fantastic!

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The debate on whether or not this is exactly the same formulation as those uber-expensive imported boxes of the universal powder may still continue, but this detergent is fantastic. Removes all stains and brightens fabrics. It has a pleasant, delicate scent which does not linger on the clothing after drying, even if clothes are dried outside in the sun. Rinses completely clean, so there is no residue (think how great this is for your HE washers, too!). My clothes feel much softer now, and I have not used Downy in almost a week. Once all the residue from other detergents was rinsed out with Persil, I did not need softeners. The dosing is simple, and one needs only a little to achieve great results on laundry. The drum of my washing machine shines too, and the pesky white stains on the door seal are gone!

 

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Is it just me? Or, if I not alone in thinking someone other than Laundress wrote that review?

 

 

[toploader1984]

Persil

The liquid is not for HE machines! Even though it says "safe for all machines" funny how evryone around here always talks about tide HE oversidsing but they don't complain about persil, at least tide doesn't sudslock my machine causing it to fault out.

 

[angus]

The liquid sudsed a bit given a medium water level in a top loader so there was lots of splashing. However, it rinsed very well so I don't see a problem there.

 

[toploader1984]

Persil power caps

Update, i decided to brave walmart and go buy the persil "caps" because the liquid has too much suds, have a large load of work clothes washing now and NO suds at all! Kiss tide pods goodbye? Not sure just yet, have to do more testing ;-)

 

[sudsmaster]

I picked up a 50 load bottle of the "Fresh Scent" power pearls for $12 at my local Walmart. They had the 37 load bottle of the "Original Scent" powder for $10, but my math indicated the larger bottle was a better deal.

 

They also had small and large bags and bins of the pods, but I passed on that.

 

I'll give the powder a try this weekend. In both the Neptune and the Miele.

 

 

[swestoyz]

The plunge

Earlier this week I also braved the local Wal-Mart in Waterloo to discover they indeed were stocking all Persil varieties. I picked up a 50 load bottle of pearls for 14.99 (the 36 load was 10.99). The first load was tested in the 806. All whites using the soak cycle, hot water. Nice suds level for an "HE" detergent, and it rinsed pretty well. One of the hand towels had some blood stains that came out nicely. Looking forward to using it in the Neptune as well as a Frigidaire.

Ben

 

[passatdoc]

Has anyone tried it in a front loader yet? The PowerPerls bottle has the small HE logo on the front, but I wonder whether this is copyrighted. I think Costco's powder detergent, which it bills as being suitable "for all machines", also has the HE logo, and knowing the difference in sudsing, I would never assume or trust a given detergent to work in both settings.

Using HE powder detergent, be it Tide HE or Gain HE, or Ariel or Persil brought back from Europe, I never use more than 2 tbsp/30 ml, and more like 15-20 ml for typical loads. I'd use 30 ml for a giant load in my 4.3 cu ft Electrolux series 60.

Although normally I never set foot in Walmarts, because of the way they treat employees and local communities, I may break down and either order it or stop by a store so I can buy a test bottle of the Power Perls. Bizarre that they (Henkel) would execute an exclusive deal with Walmart, given that it is not an upscale chain and I would guess that a majority of their customers use top loaders (not vintage TLs but NEW TLs) rather than front loaders. I am aware that over 50% of new machines sold in USA are FL, but my guess is that percentage rises in more affluent areas and stores. Where I live, Walmart is redneck city (bear in mind this is suburban OC, and Walmart is not the only retail game in town. They have not dominated here, they only hold their own, because there is lots of competition and people are willing to pay higher prices to avoid Walmart).

 

[jerrod6]

In a front loader

is the only thing I have and so yes I have tried the Perls and the liquid and have used the Perls in a 190F wash. I did 3 loads today used the Perls in 1 and the liquid in 1 and Miele for colors powder in the last, just to compare and I did about 6 loads last week using both Persils, but I must say I have never seen as many suds in my washer during the wash as I see in Ben's picture. Ben how much did you use?

For the first use of the Perls I used 45 mls which is about what line 1 is. For the rest of my loads I have been using 2 tablespoons just like I usually did and it has worked OK. Probably going to depend on your washer and water conditions, plus you might need this much for a top loader.

For the liquid I have been using 45mls. it is a bit sudsy, but so is German liquid Persil, but the rinses are fine. I think I will reduce the liquid down to 40 or 30 also.

The instructions say to use more for larger loads, and I am still experimenting with it but I think in the end 30 for light soil to 40ml for heavy soil seems like it might be ok for me. I only have a 6K machine but I fill it until you can't get anymore in it, plus I think you can use less if you are using a higher water temperature.

 

[launderess]

Walmart Is All Over Europe IIRC

Not just the USA as well. Though the Persil "ProClean" is only for the United States maybe Wally World has an arrangement for a larger discount based upon worldwide sales of Henkel products.

We keep coming back to outside of Walmart few other grocery/supermarket chains in the USA can compete. This of course begs the question why not use Dial Corporation's established product distribution system. I mean they can get Purex, Fels Naptha, Right Guard and other products in stores from Maine to California so what was so special about Persil?

 

[dustin92]

So far, love both the liquid and pearls! I have noticed old stains disappearing from clothes, whites are coming out whiter, and not much is needed to do the job. I have noticed the liquid is quite sudsy in a top loader, while the pearls have little to no suds at all, and seem to have less scent. I like the scent, but I think it could be a little stronger, especially in the pearls.