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I agree with Rich. I just buy on ebay. I have won many and lost many. This is what an auction is. Now if you are at a live auction with a friend that could be a little different. On ebay there are many bidders. So, it may not also be your friend that out bid you <br
Ray
 
Who's got a match, my flamethrowers gone out!!!!! LOL

Thank goodness I am wearing my asbestos undies :- <br
Barring the legal issue I don't think that it would be a debacle since I don't see a failure. A conundrum....sure <br
I do know of one list/club that has an unwritten rule about not discussing eBay auctions and though it seems to work it isn't very productive for those who wish to gain knowledge/research about the item and this is generally done by discussing it with your fellow collector friends. I have to believe that we, as adults, should be able to handle this in a good way with out squelching speech. I am going to reply more to Laundress's post in another post so read on if you like :-)
 
Launderess !

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "When it comes right down to it, no one owes anyone outside of their family/spouse a living." Can you please clarify <br
" However snatching something from someone known to really to want it is just mean IMHO. Some are blessed to be in a position to pay any amount for an item, others are just not so lucky. What is wrong with giving someone else a chance?&quot <br
I would agree if it is being "snatched" just because the other person wants it. That is just deliberate nastiness and it happens...I've seen it:-) As far as anyones finacial ability to buy things...well...it just shouldn't be an issue. I have bid against people who are wealthy and have won items. It boils down to who wants it more. To sum it up...It matters not who wins as long as everyone played with integrity. I don't believe that I ever said anything about giving someone a chance. I'm all for it! But I AM against being asked/told to back off of an auction just because the other person wants it. This isn't fair to ask of a group of people especially friends IMOHO <br
"...will give them the courtesy of not "blowing their game".&quot <br
Laundress, I couldn't agree with you more. I think that this is a wonderfull courtesy that I extend as well. I know what it's like to search for hours and think that I may have found something that nobody else saw only to have someone ask an innocent question about it on a club list. Then the people with "deep pockets" bid it through the roof. OYE!!How frustrating...but the nature of the beast <br
"As for Steve's post, saw nothing wrong as he spoke the truth. The man is a very nice person (so far as one knows), and merely asked people he considers his friends/co-collectors to give him the same consideration he gives others." <br
I don't think that I incinuated that he lied about anything and I'm sure that he is a very nice person. I don't know him but everything that I've read points me to that conclusion. I can see that we (Steve and I) have similar taste in vacuum cleaners :-). Steve has every right to extend any courtesy that he wishes but I do take issue with being made to feel that if I bid against him (or anyone else) that I will be thought of in a bad light. This now puts ME in an akward position that I shouldn't have to be in. My rule of thumb is that if I really want something and I have worked hard to find it and afford it then I will bid on it. If I know that a friend really wants it then I may suggest a solution. Let's say that you are willing to pay $10 and I'm willing to pay $20 then we both bid. If I win it for the bid above you ($11) then you pay the $11 and you can have it. If it goes for more than that then we know that someone else bid and you weren't the immediate under-bidder but at least I didn't lose it at $11 when I was willing to pay $20. If I win...YAY and if not...congrats to the winner! So far I have not lost any friends with this attitude! Many respect it and agree <br
I do hope that Steve will chime in on this discussion. I would realy like to know more about his feelings on this. Steve... <br
Respectfully
<br
 
Re: Thank You:

For everyone's support and heartfelt feelings about my not being the Winning Bidder. What I was trying to express as far as being my feelings of what I would consider "Fairness" is if someone who is a Member of a Club similar to ours or the Vac Club {even thought I'm not a member at least not yet of the Vac Club} I feel that someone who knows the person/member of a Club Bidding on an item, that no one else should be Bidding against that person <br
It has really upset me to think that I did in fact have to loose out on the Filter Queen, because of someone else {probably in this case} of not being familiar to us, or not a Member of either Club, or this person "just doesn't give a DAMN" about who they hurt, upset, Bid against, etc. <br
If this did happen to be someone who is a Member of either the Appliance or Vac Club and did possibly know who I was by my Screen Name {which almost everyone does know} I can't believe that someone could be as inconsiderate to me or anyone else <br
Thank you Launderess and everyone else for you special support and caring way, making me feel somewhat better about this matter happening. It means a great deal to me, as I'm no doubt sure that it does to anyone and everyone else, when they aren't able to get something however and another Club Member Friend, or even just a Dear Friend let's them know that they were sorry about seeing/hearing that someone they know didn't Win a Bid or couldn't afford otherwise something they really wanted, because someone else had to be such a Jerk about Bidding against or offering more Money for any given Item <br
I know and admit that it is true that maybe something else even much better or different, but similar will come around someday, that at least for me, hopefully I will see either at a Yard Sale, Garage Sale or an Estate Sale and have all original Parts and Owner's Manuals and reasonably Priced that I can afford to get it, but in the mean time, I hope that everyone will try to be courteous with me and others and be helpful and supportive, instead of "Walking All Over Someone" or "Stabbing them in their Back" or whatever else and to not feel or be Negative towards others. We've all been here for each other throught thick and thin and everyone for the most part has been supportive, helpful and always able to make someone feel wanted and that they belong. We also do our best to get difficult Repairs worked out, with extra help and support, as to "How To" do something, if we aren't quite sure as to how something is giving us problems <br
Thank you again, for everyone's support on my losing on the Bidding, I really appreciate the support, concern and extra info and additional info and "Pro's and Con's" from what I attempted to write to try and express my feelings of courtesy to others <br
I've tried to do my best to express myself of my feelings here, as to how I feel about what happened. I'm not always the best writer, but I try my best as I know how <br
Peace, Good Times, Happy Daze, Wonderful Friends, Stev
SactoTeddyBear...
 
Hi Steve <br
I'm glad that you weighed in on this and told me your feelings. I won't belabor my point so I'll make this very short and to the point. <br
By asking your fellow club members not to bid on an auction and have them reply in writing puts you and them in an unlawful position by deliberately breaking the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. This is considered collusion and restraint of trade. It's not whether you win or lose the auction. The collusion itself is the crime. Steve Proffitt, an auctioneer, lawyer, and regular columnist for Antique Week, the largest paid circulation antiques trade newspaper in the US, has reported on this regularly over the last 5 years that I have subscribed. This is a serious crime and people are paying dearly for these crimes on a regular basis at little country auctions as well as major international auctions. <br
Please understand that I will not partake in breaking the law and will, myself, bid on what I choose. What other people decide to do, privately, is up to them. But by having it posted in a public forum, you and your friends who reply are at risk! Hopefully you will consider this a courtesy rather than an admonishment <br
Happy collecting <br
Rich
 
well put

Rich, I could not agree with your posts more and the last above one is perfect in summary in my opinion. I have bid against club members that I do not know personally and have been bid against and have NEVER taken it PERSONALLY. That is what an auction is for and about. I have, I admit, however, in consideration of someone I in fact do know personally asked them if they mind my joining in the bidding. Such friends have said, "by all means", I have also not bid if I have seen a friend, not an acquaintance, who has already bid. It is a difficult call and can be a "no-win" battle so to speak. I don't understand the judgement and "personalization" that appears to take place because someone loses a bid or the "shame" that comes across as being cast to the winning bidder. Some people make a lot of money and can bid high, some people don't have much money and can't bid as high. Some people have storage and basements, others have just an apartment. Some people have hundreds of machines, others have none or a handful. THATS JUST LIFE, its not always "fair". What is fair are the choices YOU as an individual make with your given circumstances and the chips will fall as they do. I have seen vintage appliances go for well into four digits, but I have tried to sell somewhat similar but not even equal apps on ebay with zero bids. So is that fair ? its just the way the cards fell. Dealing with disappointment is one thing, but shaming and blaming accomplishes ???
 
Greg <br
Well, I'm glad that you agree AND posted to this thread!! I have been known to not bid on something because I knew that a friend really wanted it , AND most importantly, I really didn't want it that badly!! This is a courtesy that I think that many of us have extended. These are only material objects and I can't get that hung up or on upset with it all <br
I hope that people realize that I can empathize with people, when they lose, BUT if it's sympathy that is required...It can be gotten from the dictionary. It's right between sh%t and syphilis! <br
 
It's right between sh%t and syphilis!

ROFL. oh stop! ROARNG HER <br
As grandma used to say, insanity and mental illnesses do not go into the mountains, they go into the people <br
Perhaps someone needs his dosages adjusted
And new bateries! ROL
 
That's not fair.........

THATS JUST LIFE, its not always "fair". <br
Well here is Toggle's nasty opinon YET again. Sorry kid <br
"It's not fair" means "I didn't get MY way."
T F bad. NEXT. <br
As every three-year-old knows; you can't always get your way. DEAL WITH IT.
 
And to all my paranoid/negative/defeatist *friends* out there <br
Yes, the universe is conspiring AGAINST YOU- you just can't win <br
Stick you head in the gas oven and make the world a better place, already <br
*SIGH* <br
Too much said LOL
 
Depression <br
Get a grip <br
If you have time to be depressed you are not working hard enough or are living in some fanasy world past. Life is right-now LIVE IT TO THE MAX <br
No one is getting
====================
younge
cute
thinne <br
(except me! <br
LIVE LOVE LAUGH and accept life as it comes
It aint over till you are 6 feet (2 metres) under.
 
Been gone all weekend and this is what happens...

Greg <br
Good points exactly, and congratulations! Personally I'm glad you were the winning bidder on the pink Filter Queen, and it's staying in the club. When I bid in an auction, I have both bid against and been outbid by other members and neither feel guilty nor get angry...it's what eBay is all about. <br
Steve, I'm sorry you've chosen to leave the club and stop posting, but with all due respect, at the same time we don't need to throw a fit and start the self-pity when we don't have our way. I have to add that Greg did not bid against you; someone else bid against you and he bid against them. Even if you were the only bidder and Greg threw in a snipe at the end, yes I would have been a little disappointed that I didn't win it, but that would quickly dissipate and I would congratulate Greg for keeping this nice vacuum in the "family", so to speak. <br
Just my $0.02...by the way, I have an eye on your Norge ;- <br
--Austin
 
Far be it from me to keep my opinions to myself

Which should come as no surprise <br
Wellsir, when you come right down to it, asking others not to bid against you really isn't that big a deal. Remember, there are zillions of other people in the world who can bid on the item, too. So in the Grand Cosmic Scheme, it probably won't affect the outcome at all <br
As for me, I'm not sure if I'd ask the members not to bid on something I'm lookng at. Maybe if I really really wanted it. But only maybe <br
That said, I'd feel like a jerk if I ended up winning something that another member really wanted <br
Wishy washy? You betcha. So shoot me <br
veg
 
An auction is a auction! We all know that <br <br
Toggleswitch! Your mean vicious attack on Steve was so uncalled for! Your an ASS <br
Wasn't it YOU who was wanting sympathy when you separated from your mate recently? Did anyone in this club say anything nasty? No, everyone was there supporting you! I don't recall anyone telling you to stick your damn head in the oven! Get over it, that's life! You didn't need to say all those cruel things! Steve WAS a member here for a long time, and was never mean to anyone, always saying nice things <br
So, I hope you feel good about yourself <br
This isn't about the auction, this is about the personal attack ONLY <br
Hopefully Steve will come back to the club. I'm sure along with myself there will be several here that would miss him if he didn't <br
 
Steve bid what he could. It just wasn't good enough. Maybe next time, what he could afford to pay will end up the winning bid. Free market and that is all. The market demand for this item was greater than what he was willing to pay. This is how a Philco washer and dryer set can go for $2,500. How many people wanted that set and lost? Yet we are all still here, willing to play the game again and being cordial to eachother <br
Steve also made a request to the club. That's all it was, a request. You can request a window seat on the plane, but there is no guarantee you will get it. We don't have any "rules" to mitigate our behavior when more than one person wants something. We don't work like that. You play the game and risk loosing. It's the behavior AFTER the auction closes that reveals the true character and maturity level of the people playing <br
For the record <br <br
User ID Bid Amount Date of bid

fiftiesfan ( 156) US $152.50 Jan-17-06 18:59:43 PST

1gr8deel4u ( 90) US $150.00 Jan-16-06 08:53:14 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $94.99 Jan-17-06 18:48:18 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $87.99 Jan-17-06 18:47:53 PST <br
sactoteddybear ( 119) US $81.99 Jan-17-06 18:47:33 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $76.99 Jan-17-06 18:46:54 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $69.99 Jan-17-06 18:46:31 PST

yressu ( 33) US $65.00 Jan-17-06 18:44:16 PST

yressu ( 33) US $62.00 Jan-17-06 18:44:01 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $59.99 Jan-16-06 13:51:00 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $48.99 Jan-16-06 13:48:39 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $32.99 Jan-16-06 13:47:41 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $25.99 Jan-11-06 23:43:49 PST

merlin2351 ( 8 ) US $21.00 Jan-12-06 13:46:44 PST

donr ( 2 ) US $16.50 Jan-12-06 12:07:11 PST

merlin2351 ( 8 ) US $15.00 Jan-11-06 23:24:27 PST

sactoteddybear ( 119) US $9.99 Jan-11-06 11:56:05 PST
 
I think the money triggered bigger issues...

Ego and tantrums and attempts to be controlling, then, are worse <br
I think Austin was hugely eloquent in his statement. He is not yet 20 y.o. and FAR beyond many triple his age in years. <br
BRAVO Austin.
 

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