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With regard to toilets...

Saving water is a good thing. Saving water with devices that are unreliable and/or function poorly is not a good thing. In order to achieve a thorough toilet flush with little water, many toilet manufacturers make toilets with vacuum pumps or compressors to give some more power to the water. I do not like these devices! They are loud, expensive, trouble-prone, and cannot be easily or cheaply repaired. I believe that the toilet is something that the average person should be able to make basic repairs to under the most desperate of circumstances. Toilets always seem to break at the most inopportune moments, especially if you only have one of them! As a historic preservationist I have asked myself if the problem of increasing flush power has ever been solved before. It has been, over a century ago! The toilet tank was raised several feet above the bowl, and the water from the tank would be accelerated by gravity while descending a pipe before it hit the bowl, resulting in a powerful flush. Gravity is free, it is very reliable, has no moving parts, and if gravity ever breaks, flushing the toilet will be the least of our concerns! Maybe we should try to come up with the simplest viable soultion possible so we don't have to deal with shoddy products and get back to what we do best (laundry!).

Please don't skip the humor of the above. Humor mixed with facts is like using the expensive toilet paper; it makes a necessity a little more enjoyable and might even result in a better job in the end ;)

Dave
 
Flushings not about the Vaccum

As usual the US chose a less efficient method.

Australian Toilets use no vaccum, use only 3L for a Number 1 flush and 4.5L for a Number 2 flush. 95% of flushes get it right the first time, and you dont stand there watching the poopy spin round in a useless circle and still end up floating on top.

Our toilets have a very low water level in the trap, probably only 4 cups. When you flush, the water rushes in from above, and pushes the soil downwards. Once it makes it over trap then its gone.

 
I have an idea!

It's 4:20 here if you know what I mean ;) but I got to thinking that if you could extend the clear vinyl hose that goes from the tub to the pressuure svitch, it would take a bit longer to trip the switch.

It would be a real P.I.T.A. to calibrate such a set up as you would need to redrain tub as you try to find the right lenght of tubing.
 
Amanas, Toilets, 420

Partsman, some of my best ideas or solutions to problems tend to happen after 4:20 ;-)

Oxyfan, Amanas are indeed junk. I own a pair and speak from bad experience. Gotta say with its 4th belt properly installed the washer seems to be behaving better than it has in a couple of years but there will be cause for celebration the day it is finally replaced with a large capacity FL machine. My old center dial Maytag had its orignal belt when I gave it away about 10 years ago. A real shame that this particular Maytag technology is history now. Don't even get me started on the sad inferior quality of my Amana dryer.

Low flow toilets are bad news. Low water level in the bowl makes for constant cleaning issues and at times, associated unsavory odors. I defeated my low flow design by getting one of those retro-fit flapper assemblies that has a sticky ring to press into place over the existing opening, and has a cup on the back of the flapper. Now the flapper stays up until the cup empties and I get a complete flush every time. When it comes to a toilet doing its job right the first time, water usage doesn't concern me. If I ever have to replace a toilet again, I'll be heading over to the salvage yard for a full flow model. This is one area where I refuse to compromise!
 
re- with regard to toilets...

still OT but here's some good info, the retrofit flapper we used in our old Eljer units was called 'Corky' which had a dial of sorts to allow you to get a more complete use of the tank water to clear out waste. It was a decent compromise until we upgraded last year to Toto units with the Sanagloss coating. These units are truly amazing - EVERYTHING goes down in one flush! They are worth the $279 each we paid through an e-seller. One caveat - absolutely no cleanser or other harsh chemicals or its bye-bye to the Sanagloss. Any residue that has needed cleaning (which isn't often and isn't much) is easily handled with a little foam type cleaner.
 
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