Yeah, early MM versus later Raytheon/Caloric MM are verrry different animals.
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What does "a true SCing oven" mean?
What does "a true SCing oven" mean?
SC stands for Self Cleaning Rich, as opposed to perhaps a Continuous Cleaning oven.
BTW, I had a Whirlpool electric range in a rental in ‘75 that had a Continuous Cleaning oven and I liked that feature very much. The oven surface was rough, rather than smooth and somehow the grease didn’t bake onto the oven walls. I just had to wipe off the oven wall surface periodically to keep it clean. No chemical fumes or smoke to contend with when cleaning the oven. I wish they still offered this feature.
Eddie
SC stands for Self Cleaning Rich, as opposed to perhaps a Continuous Cleaning oven.
BTW, I had a Whirlpool electric range in a rental in ‘75 that had a Continuous Cleaning oven and I liked that feature very much. The oven surface was rough, rather than smooth and somehow the grease didn’t bake onto the oven walls. I just had to wipe off the oven wall surface periodically to keep it clean. No chemical fumes or smoke to contend with when cleaning the oven. I wish they still offered this feature.
Eddie
I recognize that cream colored KitchenAid range, I have one of the smooth top electric models with the identical controls that John brought out a couple decades ago. It has had issues with the touch controls being marginally responsive for the entire time. Even a control board replacement never made it right. Other than that issue it works alright and I do like the convection feature.
In a way I wish mine was gas, because then I'd get rid of it right away and stop living with the marginal touch controls. I wonder how the gas model self cleaning works (or doesn't)?
In a way I wish mine was gas, because then I'd get rid of it right away and stop living with the marginal touch controls. I wonder how the gas model self cleaning works (or doesn't)?
I wouldn't say the KA Superba Range is "cream colored". It is plain white, as is the one in my workshop.
I took a peek at the Modern Maid oven igniter. I cannot say for sure, but it looks like it's supposed to glow. I'll have to plug it in and turn on the control to see I hear any telltale clicking.
I took a peek at the Modern Maid oven igniter. I cannot say for sure, but it looks like it's supposed to glow. I'll have to plug it in and turn on the control to see I hear any telltale clicking.
OK, did some measurements, with electric hookup but no gas hookup.
The Modern Maid drop-in range has spark style burner igniters. All work. It has bright orange glowing coils for oven and broiler starting. The oven coil uses about 320 watts. The broiler coil uses about 350 watts.
The 30"GE Profile slide in range also has sparking burner igniters. All work. I could not test the oven and broiler because it's giving an error, saying "LOCK" and not allowing me to test the oven and broiler.
The 30" KA Superba slide in range also has spark type burner igniters. All seem to work. The oven igniter uses about 350 watts. The broiler igniter uses about 400 watts. I didn't check the color of either. All the touch controls seem to work just fine.
Tomorrow I'll see if I can clear the error on the GE. It might mean a control lock. I tested the control lock process on the KA Superba; was able to lock and unlock it.
Perhaps someone familiar with the 30" GE Profile slide in range can say what the "Lock" error on the unit means? I have no manual for it.
Addendum: Oh wait, I did find the manual for the GE Profile 30" slide in range. In fact I has posted a link for it here. I'll just need to review it.
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The Modern Maid drop-in range has spark style burner igniters. All work. It has bright orange glowing coils for oven and broiler starting. The oven coil uses about 320 watts. The broiler coil uses about 350 watts.
The 30"GE Profile slide in range also has sparking burner igniters. All work. I could not test the oven and broiler because it's giving an error, saying "LOCK" and not allowing me to test the oven and broiler.
The 30" KA Superba slide in range also has spark type burner igniters. All seem to work. The oven igniter uses about 350 watts. The broiler igniter uses about 400 watts. I didn't check the color of either. All the touch controls seem to work just fine.
Tomorrow I'll see if I can clear the error on the GE. It might mean a control lock. I tested the control lock process on the KA Superba; was able to lock and unlock it.
Perhaps someone familiar with the 30" GE Profile slide in range can say what the "Lock" error on the unit means? I have no manual for it.
Addendum: Oh wait, I did find the manual for the GE Profile 30" slide in range. In fact I has posted a link for it here. I'll just need to review it.
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neptunebob
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If you are foolish enough to run the SC cycle while the A/C
If you ever have water damage happen, self cleaning or doing a lot of cooking while running the central air conditioner is a great way to dry out a house. The cost of a few KW of electric power is just a few dollars that can prevent a lot of mold and stop a lot of costly damage from dampness.
If you ever have water damage happen, self cleaning or doing a lot of cooking while running the central air conditioner is a great way to dry out a house. The cost of a few KW of electric power is just a few dollars that can prevent a lot of mold and stop a lot of costly damage from dampness.
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Hi Rich, The MM you ave does have hot surface ignition, it probably uses round igniters and these use a little less than 400 watts as you found out, the KA has the flat igniters that use closer to 400 watts, the GE range could have either type.
The GE range may have a bad Electronic Range Control [ ERC ], if so I would set it out for recycling.
The KA may be viable but is probably the most troublesome of the three.
Because the MM does not have a computer control system it might become the best choice of these 3 ranges, I personally always like a true SCing oven however gas SCing ovens never work as well as electric SCing ovens because they have a very hard time getting up to the 800F + temperature required to do a good job.
Best choies still is to keep the FD Compact 30 and put solar panels on the house.
John
Hi Rich, The MM you ave does have hot surface ignition, it probably uses round igniters and these use a little less than 400 watts as you found out, the KA has the flat igniters that use closer to 400 watts, the GE range could have either type.
The GE range may have a bad Electronic Range Control [ ERC ], if so I would set it out for recycling.
The KA may be viable but is probably the most troublesome of the three.
Because the MM does not have a computer control system it might become the best choice of these 3 ranges, I personally always like a true SCing oven however gas SCing ovens never work as well as electric SCing ovens because they have a very hard time getting up to the 800F + temperature required to do a good job.
Best choies still is to keep the FD Compact 30 and put solar panels on the house.
John
John,
Thanks for the tips.
I did a little more searching, and found the following link.
https://www.hunker.com/13408976/how-to-fix-my-ge-profile-range-that-says-blinks-locked
Unfortunately none of that seems to clear the red flashing "LOCK" message on the display panel.
So yeah, it probably needs a new control board of some sort. Probably why it was free, LOL.
At this point, the Modern Maid appears to be the best fit.
Solar panels? Yeah, some day.
Thanks for the tips.
I did a little more searching, and found the following link.
https://www.hunker.com/13408976/how-to-fix-my-ge-profile-range-that-says-blinks-locked
Unfortunately none of that seems to clear the red flashing "LOCK" message on the display panel.
So yeah, it probably needs a new control board of some sort. Probably why it was free, LOL.
At this point, the Modern Maid appears to be the best fit.
Solar panels? Yeah, some day.
