We spent Christmas this year at the beach on Treasure Island, Florida, and rented a nice condo right on the Gulf. Terry Lattz joined us for a few days. Naturally, we checked out the Laundry after entering, and discovered this:
Roper Rinse Rash
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We were curious...
So we ran a quick cycle. All was OK, until we hit the Spin. Sounded like a Jumbo jet on takeoff, bearings were shot. So we informed the management, and they sent a new machine the next day:
So we ran a quick cycle. All was OK, until we hit the Spin. Sounded like a Jumbo jet on takeoff, bearings were shot. So we informed the management, and they sent a new machine the next day:
From one POS to another...
By this time, we had a few dirty towels...I believe 4 bath and 1 beach towel. Regular cycle, "high" water level. You can see that the tub only fills to about 2/3 capacity:
By this time, we had a few dirty towels...I believe 4 bath and 1 beach towel. Regular cycle, "high" water level. You can see that the tub only fills to about 2/3 capacity:
Reading the lid...
Graphic on the left illustrates the new energy-saving water level for the wash. Graphic on the right discusses the energy-saving level for the rinse. It even recommends you dilute the fabric softener in a quart of water...
Graphic on the left illustrates the new energy-saving water level for the wash. Graphic on the right discusses the energy-saving level for the rinse. It even recommends you dilute the fabric softener in a quart of water...
So we eagerly anticipate the rinse...
Nice waterfall fill:
Nice waterfall fill:
Sometimes 6" is just not enough...
Check out the rinse level. Preset, regardless of the wash level. The washer beat the hell out of those towels. And there is no 2-speed as the control panel indicates, unless you consider the spin. Imagine the lack of contact with the rinse water on a full load. I feel a rash coming on:
Check out the rinse level. Preset, regardless of the wash level. The washer beat the hell out of those towels. And there is no 2-speed as the control panel indicates, unless you consider the spin. Imagine the lack of contact with the rinse water on a full load. I feel a rash coming on:
George is not kidding about the old machine. It sounded just like a jet coming down the hallway. It was unreal. I can't believe the water level on the new machines rinse. I still can't believe this is what it has come to. Thanks George for a great get-away at the beach.
Terry
Terry
arbilab
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As if toploaders weren't already short on rinse ability, that's just ridiculous unless all you're washing is one change of underwear.
strongenough78
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That is so ridiculous! How do they expect a water level like that to be able to rinse out clothes? All that's going to do is concentrate the detergent that's left in them and basically make it another wash cycle. Not to mention tearing up clothes in the process. I guess I'll never ever be buying a new washer and just restore older ones once I'm able. Did it at least spray rinse during either of the spin cycles?
Wow, is this the case having a low water level rinse machine?
Why didn't they just get a front loader that is capable to wash and rinse better for the same amount of water or less?
Oh boy, people are in for a real treat when they find out that the home laundry industry has changed for the worse!
And when is Consumers Report going to praise these machines being excellent in washing, but poor in rinsing!?
Why didn't they just get a front loader that is capable to wash and rinse better for the same amount of water or less?
Oh boy, people are in for a real treat when they find out that the home laundry industry has changed for the worse!
And when is Consumers Report going to praise these machines being excellent in washing, but poor in rinsing!?
aviondavid
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I think I'm going to be sick!
That machine must beat the HELL out of any clothes in it. Why do they have to be so stingy with the rinse water since it is programmed to be cold anyway? Are machines the same in Canada? IIRC folks were heading north of the border at one time to get a decent toilet that would use enough water to move waste-can we go out of the country to get a decent top load washer? I guess vintage really is the way to go.
I know what you mean about the two speed thing. The washer that I use in the summer at Mesa Verde is a Roper, has the same claptrap on the panel stating something about 2 speed combinations. So one day I throw all my aloha shirts in the so called delicate cycle. FREAKED OUT when the darned thing ran at the high 180 spm. It will wash 2 minutes, soak 2 minutes and 2 more of agitation. At least that machine does fill up to the proper level for the rinse. I love that washer for my regular laundry and we of course have mostly "guy" clothes to wash. This is no machine for "girl" clothes
That machine must beat the HELL out of any clothes in it. Why do they have to be so stingy with the rinse water since it is programmed to be cold anyway? Are machines the same in Canada? IIRC folks were heading north of the border at one time to get a decent toilet that would use enough water to move waste-can we go out of the country to get a decent top load washer? I guess vintage really is the way to go.
I know what you mean about the two speed thing. The washer that I use in the summer at Mesa Verde is a Roper, has the same claptrap on the panel stating something about 2 speed combinations. So one day I throw all my aloha shirts in the so called delicate cycle. FREAKED OUT when the darned thing ran at the high 180 spm. It will wash 2 minutes, soak 2 minutes and 2 more of agitation. At least that machine does fill up to the proper level for the rinse. I love that washer for my regular laundry and we of course have mostly "guy" clothes to wash. This is no machine for "girl" clothes
Did it at least spray rinse during either of the spin cycles
Yes...
At the beginning of each spin, there are two 3-second sprays...
All it does in the final spin is eliminate the suds remaining on top of the clothes that never reached the rinse water...
George
Yes...
At the beginning of each spin, there are two 3-second sprays...
All it does in the final spin is eliminate the suds remaining on top of the clothes that never reached the rinse water...
George
strongenough78
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Yuck, still doesn't sound effective enough. I hope you don't end up with a rash because of it.
neptunebob
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I wonder why Roper is not afraid that a lawyer with sensitive skin might sue them over this. Seems to be the only way to get a business to do anything right anymore.
strongenough78
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Well if the manufacturers have to follow what the government says, then they should start making the tubs smaller. People are going to fill the machine thinking the water level will be higher than it is. Although it does warn you on the machine, not everyone will notice it right away. They should make the tub capacity to whatever the regulated water level should be. Otherwise, they're going to start getting a lot of complaints from customers about damaged clothes. And the rinse level should at least be where the wash level is set at. That's just stupid having it at such a low level.
Terry told me about this new Roper, good to see the pictures and the instruction graphics don't lie! This machine will be out of production by March 2012 (?) but I'll bet that you don't get much more from the new belt-drive version unless you select "softener rinse" option, even then I'm not sure you'd get a "full" fill. Roger and I counted not one conventional full-fill top load washer on the sales floor at Nebraska Furniture Mart on New Years day. Not one. They're gone. Only a scant few top-load models anyway, front loaders are taking the lead it seems.
strongenough78
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That sucks to hear Gan. Geez what is it with products these days. I thought the future was supposed to bring better manufacturing. I miss the days of solid metal appliances that could take a beating and keep running. And cars made of steel with big chrome bumpers instead of everything plastic. Nothing lasts like it used to, yet costs so much more.
Energy Savings!
It is a discrace as to what has happened. A big sacrafice to save energy for what??
Really Sux!!
Peter
It is a discrace as to what has happened. A big sacrafice to save energy for what??
Really Sux!!
Peter
supersurgilator
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So is March the date the DD machines will be discontinued or all toploaders? I'm wondering, wouldn't be better to just use a total spray rinse rather than this? I think it would be a little more effective anyway.
When did they start making the rinse cycles this way? I bought a clearanced model Kenmore last year but due to several reasons haven't been able to use it. It was a 2010 model so I'm wondering what it does for the rinse? I mainly snached it up because I hated the new BD models and wanted a new DD model.
When did they start making the rinse cycles this way? I bought a clearanced model Kenmore last year but due to several reasons haven't been able to use it. It was a 2010 model so I'm wondering what it does for the rinse? I mainly snached it up because I hated the new BD models and wanted a new DD model.
