supersurgilator
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Forgot to mention, what kind of damage is this doing to the machine? Imagine it trying to agitate a full load with no water? Can't see that being very good on the workings of the machine.
Roper Rinse Rash
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arbilab
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Some clever rewiring could make this nasty thing use the same water level for rinse it does for wash. But what the devil, you buy a new washer and the first thing you have to do to make it work right is redesign it?
Isn't Roper another WCI brand? For the most part WCI doesn't give a shatner what they do.
Isn't Roper another WCI brand? For the most part WCI doesn't give a shatner what they do.
Not at all
Roper is a Whirlpool brand, marketed on the lower end of things.
This "washer" doesn't contradict that.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Roper is a Whirlpool brand, marketed on the lower end of things.
This "washer" doesn't contradict that.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Geez-with the rinse cycle on that washer-just take them to the shore of the lake and beat the clothes with a rock!thats about what that Roper washer does!This water use bit is just getting so ------STUPID!!!!If I have to use that washer----The Lowes bucket will be used to fill it to the PROPER water level---not the beat your clothes level.Or--open the control panel and see what regulates the rinse level-and adjust it!ROPER RINSE RASH---A new "tongue twister!"Say that 3 times real fast!
My sister has this same washer she hates it, You can not add water to it at all it will drain it back out. She has had it worked on about 3 times. If you use low setting it will splash water out of the tub in onto the floor under it. She has them coming back today to fix it or she is taking the next step lawyer.
Lowes has been no help and the master company whirlpool keeps putting it off onto lowes.
Lowes has been no help and the master company whirlpool keeps putting it off onto lowes.
mark_wpduet
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Really??
That's the rinse level you get regardless of the water level you choose to start???
That's seriously messed up!
So much for people who say they are dumping a FL to go back to an old fashioned TL washer.....Unless they get an older one.
That's the rinse level you get regardless of the water level you choose to start???
That's seriously messed up!
So much for people who say they are dumping a FL to go back to an old fashioned TL washer.....Unless they get an older one.
I guess you could start it back to the wash portion of the cycle to get a full fill, let it agitate for three minutes then let it drain and spin. Certainly the machine can't stop you from doing that.
Tomturbomatic has it-go back to the wash cycle manually-then let the washer refill-and you can sort of select the rinse temp!
DirectDriveDave
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Pathetic...
How in the world will that thing work?
It's times like these that I hope to actually own these 1990 machines (they are currently my parent's) when I see tree hugger crap like this...
Now for those who havent seen this, check out my video of the 1990 machine washing many towels, this would NEVER work in one of those ...
How in the world will that thing work?
It's times like these that I hope to actually own these 1990 machines (they are currently my parent's) when I see tree hugger crap like this...
Now for those who havent seen this, check out my video of the 1990 machine washing many towels, this would NEVER work in one of those ...
macboy91si
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New Ropers
Don't these use a separate water level switch just for the rinse? if so, would it not be possible to route the rinse cycle through the main water switch or maybe tweek the 2nd one?
-Tim
Don't these use a separate water level switch just for the rinse? if so, would it not be possible to route the rinse cycle through the main water switch or maybe tweek the 2nd one?
-Tim
Coldspot...
Advise your Sister to send the machine back...
I would be surprised that Lowe's would attempt rewiring the preset rinse level, and that sounds like the only remedy...
A friend here in Atlanta purchased the same machine a few months ago...
Upon discovering the rinse cycle, Lowe's delivered a replacement machine (not sure of the brand) the next week with no problem...
And Tom, that's exactly what we did on subsequent loads...
Stopped the machine after the first spin, reset to "wash", and achieved as close to a real "rinse" as possible, stopping again after the first spin...
Subjecting your clothes to the rinse cycle is tantamount to death...
Wonder how many owners of this machine, as well as the comparable Admiral, Estate, and Inglis models, don't realize how the rinse works...
And I think the entry level price makes this one of Lowe's best sellers...
George
Advise your Sister to send the machine back...
I would be surprised that Lowe's would attempt rewiring the preset rinse level, and that sounds like the only remedy...
A friend here in Atlanta purchased the same machine a few months ago...
Upon discovering the rinse cycle, Lowe's delivered a replacement machine (not sure of the brand) the next week with no problem...
And Tom, that's exactly what we did on subsequent loads...
Stopped the machine after the first spin, reset to "wash", and achieved as close to a real "rinse" as possible, stopping again after the first spin...
Subjecting your clothes to the rinse cycle is tantamount to death...
Wonder how many owners of this machine, as well as the comparable Admiral, Estate, and Inglis models, don't realize how the rinse works...
And I think the entry level price makes this one of Lowe's best sellers...
George
mickeyd
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This isn't just sad
it is alarming. Clothing WILL get ruined. The oldest directions in the land insist on sufficient water in top loaders that will allow the load to circulate freely to prevent damage to clothing. How can they get away with this? How long will it take non-washer people to realize that their machine is destroying their wardrobe and their linens. Shouldn't we alert the media? What am I missing here? This is really crazy. Have we really come to this? W H I R L P O O L is making a machine that destroys clothing? Give me the gas pipe.
it is alarming. Clothing WILL get ruined. The oldest directions in the land insist on sufficient water in top loaders that will allow the load to circulate freely to prevent damage to clothing. How can they get away with this? How long will it take non-washer people to realize that their machine is destroying their wardrobe and their linens. Shouldn't we alert the media? What am I missing here? This is really crazy. Have we really come to this? W H I R L P O O L is making a machine that destroys clothing? Give me the gas pipe.
macboy91si
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Lowes
I wasn't necessarily suggesting that Lowes attempt the rewire or anything like that. More of a solution for washer folks that may end up with one of these machines and like to tinker. It's a sad ending to the DD machines, these Ropers and the like Inglis and Estate models were a very good value. The 2.5 and later 3.2 cu. ft. Roper is a good, simple machine, and I don't really like the new BD machines that are coming out. The real issue is, like mentioned earlier, the possible clothes damage. DD machines are not particularly kind to garments sometimes with a full load when overloaded, let alone with 1/3 the water. It's a cheap cop-out to get their water usage down since the US is all desert now and there apparently is not enough water to wash clothes properly. I mean they're killing T/L machines soon enough anyway why bother with this song and dance?
It really bothers me, I'd take a new Frigidaire T/L over this...
-Tim
I wasn't necessarily suggesting that Lowes attempt the rewire or anything like that. More of a solution for washer folks that may end up with one of these machines and like to tinker. It's a sad ending to the DD machines, these Ropers and the like Inglis and Estate models were a very good value. The 2.5 and later 3.2 cu. ft. Roper is a good, simple machine, and I don't really like the new BD machines that are coming out. The real issue is, like mentioned earlier, the possible clothes damage. DD machines are not particularly kind to garments sometimes with a full load when overloaded, let alone with 1/3 the water. It's a cheap cop-out to get their water usage down since the US is all desert now and there apparently is not enough water to wash clothes properly. I mean they're killing T/L machines soon enough anyway why bother with this song and dance?
It really bothers me, I'd take a new Frigidaire T/L over this...
-Tim
mrb627
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Rinse Agitate Time
Out of curiosity, how long was the agitation portion of the rinse cycle? I would expect they would increase the time so that the load would be evenly beaten...
Malcolm
Out of curiosity, how long was the agitation portion of the rinse cycle? I would expect they would increase the time so that the load would be evenly beaten...
Malcolm
pierreandreply4
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Thats the standard for Top load washers today
Its sad to say but for washers i would say that its the standard today and the only thing that comes into my mind is if we went a decent washer in a vacation home it would be to buy a vaction home and place a washer dryer that we chose usaly the appliances in a rental vacation home are chosen by the staff of the rental agency and i know for a fact that i have use for my family a roper washer in a rental home but i think it was a 2009 model before the change in water normes for rinse and it wash and rinse pretty well. This is just my 2 cents here in this thread.
Its sad to say but for washers i would say that its the standard today and the only thing that comes into my mind is if we went a decent washer in a vacation home it would be to buy a vaction home and place a washer dryer that we chose usaly the appliances in a rental vacation home are chosen by the staff of the rental agency and i know for a fact that i have use for my family a roper washer in a rental home but i think it was a 2009 model before the change in water normes for rinse and it wash and rinse pretty well. This is just my 2 cents here in this thread.
My sister is in a fight with lowes and the maker, Loes says they will not take it back then the maker says they will fix it and so on and so on. She today just called me mad the serve guy now clams it needs a new shell that is the problem with it . lol
The problem with it is the thing is leaking oil not cleaning and sounds like a fright train. no joke.
About rinse that part is computer thing in a black box you can see it in the parts guide. Today my sister got to see it run for the first time with no shell on it. She said it joke. beside no water at all half the time. It is also very hard and splashed water all over the place.
After this guy left she made the last call to the maker of it, In the next week if no reply then bbb and she is taking to the store in person. She is not happy and I can not blame her, She and her family worked hard for this washer they got the set dryer is great washer is junk.
It is more like a portable since the load size is so odd on it.
The problem with it is the thing is leaking oil not cleaning and sounds like a fright train. no joke.
About rinse that part is computer thing in a black box you can see it in the parts guide. Today my sister got to see it run for the first time with no shell on it. She said it joke. beside no water at all half the time. It is also very hard and splashed water all over the place.
After this guy left she made the last call to the maker of it, In the next week if no reply then bbb and she is taking to the store in person. She is not happy and I can not blame her, She and her family worked hard for this washer they got the set dryer is great washer is junk.
It is more like a portable since the load size is so odd on it.
neptunebob
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W H I R L P O O L is making a machine that destroys clothing
In another thread, I tell the story of how Disney created a ride that insults guests so I guess anything that a business does that does not make sense is possible.
I guess Whirlpool figures no lawyer would have a Roper in the their basement so they aren't too worried about lawsuits.
In another thread, I tell the story of how Disney created a ride that insults guests so I guess anything that a business does that does not make sense is possible.
I guess Whirlpool figures no lawyer would have a Roper in the their basement so they aren't too worried about lawsuits.
OMG! Are they kidding?
This is just my oppinion but I think top loaders were alway a bit hursher with clothing because of the agitator, but doing it almost without water is like putting the laundry in a blender!
I would never be that towel in this Roper washer. The rinse water level is just scary!
Poor washing
Ingemar
This is just my oppinion but I think top loaders were alway a bit hursher with clothing because of the agitator, but doing it almost without water is like putting the laundry in a blender!
I would never be that towel in this Roper washer. The rinse water level is just scary!
Poor washing
Ingemar
Has WP completely lost it?
Or are the green police who think we can clean things without water, heat or good detergent that strong. This is a joke at best. All you will get with that joke of a rinse is shredded clothes and skin irritation not to mention a broken machine. I'm thoroughly disgusted at this.
Or are the green police who think we can clean things without water, heat or good detergent that strong. This is a joke at best. All you will get with that joke of a rinse is shredded clothes and skin irritation not to mention a broken machine. I'm thoroughly disgusted at this.
