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wonder there is so much division?

No one was bragging about being enlightened. Many fail to try seeing the entire larger picture, young and old alike.
Both sides have had successful policy and failures.
It's important to learn from mistakes and history.
If not for Tesla, would Edison have been a success? Many doubted both.
Many told Ransome E. Olds his car was a failure. Henry Ford also. There was a cartel which tried to prohibit Ford from going into the market. He had to bet he'd win a race in order to be allowed in. Then there was the Preston Tucker scandal.
Everything gets political. We all want it our way or the highway. Fairness is very important, not just one sided fairness.
So we have checks and balances and regulations for when there is over reach or fraud.
New things have to be tried out. If they don't work, they need to be fine tuned or changed. Change is a constant. Most are uncomfortable with it, but the young are more daring and resilient.

 

[johnb300m]

I just wanted to leave this little nugget:

"Millennial homeowners in particular have shown a willingness to pay more for what they perceive as better-quality products, including household appliance. Speed Queen buyers also like that the machines don’t have a lot of complicated parts."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/american-made-washing-machine-good-192116094.html

 

[washman]

"Millennial homeowners in particular have shown a willingness to pay more for what they perceive as better-quality products, including household appliance. Speed Queen buyers also like that the machines don’t have a lot of complicated parts."

 

Ahhhh that explains why they spend $700 for an Iphone!  Gawrsh............I thought I knew Millenials; guess I have some learnin' to do.

 

[johnb300m]

Honestly, I pity you Washman.
So angry.
So jaded and hateful to a whole generation of people......well who created and nurtured and begat that whole pitiful Millennial generation?

I'm really sorry your whole experience with young people has been so shitty.
It must've been so bad there is just no convincing you that there's some good eggs among us.

 

[iheartmaytag]

The Generation   G   A   P      Widens

 

[henene4]

Oh my god, we like smartphones, what a bad thing!

I could say you like spending 700+$ on an outdated piece of technology as well, and defend it to death.

Really, you are the one best example of an Apple fanboy, washman, just that your Apple is SQ.
It just seems so impossible to you that other options then Apple (uh, I meant SQ) are a good way to go, as well.

So few here say that SQs are shitty machines. I don't, at least. Most just say that they are kind of outdated and overpriced for what they offer. Nobody says they can't clean, just that some other options can clean better. And that they might not last quite as long as prommised.

You, on ther other hand, degrade EVERYTHING else to a point where it has 0 reason to even be talked about.
I mean, you even brag about how good your opinions must be because you have so much more experience in life. However they show 0 signs of diverse thinking and consideration, no other viewpoints. Just 1 way to go.

 

[johnb300m]

You know what, Iheartmaytag?
You're right.
And it's sad.
Some of my fondest memories are working in some of the factories in my internships and first jobs, navigating the personalities of the crotchety old men in the machine shops.
Over time we forged great working relationships and I learned a lot from them. And they really learned a lot from me.
I came to understand their anger with all the nonsense they've been through over the years. And that mutual understanding brought us closer not just as coworkers, but as humans.
There were other young kids that just couldn't see that, and treated them as empty resources of a dying time.
Well guess what? They're less willing to help you that way.
A little politeness and understanding go a long way for mutual gain.

Of course this doesn't run true for everyone unfortunately.
Maybe they can learn down the road hopefully.

 

[man114]

I'm at the older end of the millennial generation and I'm not here to get into arguments.

What I can say is Samsungs are simply over engineered products for what they are. They invest time and energy building flashy looking appliances which in theory would work well but the build quality does not match what they try to do with the machine. Performance wise they clean fairly well.

I bought a top of the line Samsung Addwash with a dented top on clearance for $499 at Sears and I can tell you that's about what it's worth in terms of build quality. It cleans well, it's quiet, it doesn't vibrate, however you can tell immediately that it's just not the best built machine.

Honestly I can't see why, assuming you have the room, for the normal cost of the machine you wouldn't just pony up a few extra dollars and buy a commercial machine. I might as well just buy a Dexter T300 if I'm going to shell out $1900 on a Samsung Flexwash!

 

[alr2903]

My eye doctor is a millennial.  My vision seems to improve the minute I get in the exam room

Seriously, younger people have a fresher take on things, the latest skills in their professions and their priorities are different.  The day's of getting a job and retiring from it 45 years later are long over, most will move several times during their career.  New technologies will be like what  Wozniak, Job's & Gate's developed and brought  to the 1990's   It has been 10 years since the beginning of the financial implosion, bad business and a sour economy. Millenials will lead the way out of this mess. Back on topic, makes sense to run one service van in rural and less populated areas, we will see more of it and skills will improve with time.

 

[iheartmaytag]

I can tell you this

If my Maytag Fl machine had an app that would beep my smart phone when it was finished so I didn't have to run up and down the stairs to check on it.  I would love it. 

 

 

I love technology, gadgets, and goodies.  Also having to understand that when I learned to type, we learned on typewriters, and even then not until the freshman year.  My daughter learned computers, and keyboarding in pre-k. 

 

---side note---

A few years ago there was a big project a the Wichita Aviation Museum where Doc, the Boeing B-29 was being restored.  It was planned as an intergenerational project, so they called back some of the engineers and workers that built it originally, as well as some of the young cad/cam engineers of today. 

 

I understand there were several heated arguments where the "new" guys wanted to re-engineer something, and the comeback was "Listen here, we designed and built this plane with a slide rule and pencil and got it through a war, we can get it ready for a museum."  End the end they worked together and Doc flew again through their efforts. 

[this post was last edited: 3/3/2017-14:59]

http://www.b-29doc.com/

 

[alr2903]

You could use a cheap baby monitor, to save steps. 

 

[washman]

Oh I'm not angry John. Not at all. Just observing. Other than another nasty sinus issue, the roller coaster climate here,  making a call to dad's tax guy to make sure I have all the necessary stuff to send to get his taxes filed, I';m fine.

 

I have a Speed Queen after all.  That alone more than offsets the stupid crap I have to deal with/see on a daily basis.  Nothing like a 210 degree agitator stroke to calm you down after a hard day.

 When I feel nostalgic, I search on youtube for 60's70's Mopars starting up just so I can hear the gear reduction starter. Then I send the link to Jerry (Moparwash) so he can see them too.

 

Already I'm figuring on rye grass this year for the yard.  Just as soon as I get rid of the mole who is squatting on my property.

 

And Henne4 my fan from Germany. Son, this forum would not be half of what it is if you were not here to defend everything new, modern and government mandated.  As twisted as this sounds, I'm glad you're here.  Otherwise this would be boring as hell.  BTW I like smartphones, I'd like them better if they lasted longer.  I also like Aldi, a german co, for groceries.  See? I'm open minded?  Hell, I switched to Cascade PODS after using Electrolux powder for years!  And you think I can't adapt?  Methinks you errr my son. I even have a 96 per cent efficient furnace for crying out loud!  No, I can't run it with my smartphone but I can push a few buttons!

 

I know there are a few good eggs in your group, I just wish I could say I've had the pleasure of meeting/working with one. But being honest, I can't. Sorry but perhaps my turn to meet a good millenial egg has not yet come.

 

[johnb300m]

^

 

[mrsalvo]

"I have a Speed Queen after all.  That alone more than offsets the stupid crap I have to deal with/see on a daily basis.  Nothing like a 210 degree agitator stroke to calm you down after a hard day." Thank-you for this quote, I can so relate.

I work with all millennials at my job, they're very good to me and I've learned some valuable technical things from them. For the most part they have been very patient with me, and seem glad to see me coming to work, I guess I'm some sort of father figure to them. In turn, I try to teach them what I know about life, through experience and lessons hard learned. Some listen, some don't. I will say this much about the younger generation, they are smarter than my generation, overall, but they seem to lack some self-discipline and good common-sense. All in all I'm glad they are around.