westytoploader
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I meant to say "Good luck with the restoration!"
I meant to say "Good luck with the restoration!"
Sears & Roebuck HOMART DISHWASHER
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christfr
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now thats a cool dw..always liked those pop top dishwashers..
Wow!
What a save! Good Luck~!
What a save! Good Luck~!
Nice, and rare too, were'nt too many of those around back then for that amount of money. Moms house hear has a Homart exhaust fan in the ensuite bathroom still working, still looks new. I thought the one in her kitchen was as well but it's a Blo-Fan also from the early 50's and has its original Blo Fan rheostat wall switch
mayken4now
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Very nice machine. Will you get a glass top?
CONGRATULATIONS!
John and I took one of these out of a house in University Park, near the U of MD two or three years ago, in the winter. I remember the snow and ice. We also got a 1960s Wizzard Dryer that was mechanically similar to a WP. Note the WP/KM style agitator cap on top of the impeller and how the heating element forms part of the guard around the impeller. When we disconnected the plumbing, we had to lift the dishwasher up and over the connections that came through the floor to remove it. The lid spring is still strong. When I first met John and Jeff in 81, they had this motor and heater assembly in their weird parts collection. Someone in Baltimore had the sink and DW removed from his kitchen when he remodeled, but that combo was too large to store and we did not have the big warehouse yet and now that thing is too full. That slanted trough detergent dispenser is interesting. My mom sent me a clipping from the Atlanta Journal years ago about a man who still lives in his family's house and still uses this dishwasher that his father put in around 1950. It's been used at least once a day for all of these years and has only needed a small repair.
When they talk about the add-a-dish feature and how the cycle restarts when the lid is opened, that is a nice way of saying that the gravity drain is held closed by electricity so if the dishwasher cycle is interrupted in any way, the drain opens and you lose the wash water. The portable did not have that feature since it had to have an electric drain pump to get the water up through the drain hose to the sink.
Homart was S & R's brand on furnaces, water heaters and other things that were considered home infrastructure. Homart was one of the special names like Coldspot was for refrigerators & Craftsman for tools. That was why, even after the dishwashers were branded Kenmore, they continued for a long time to be sold near the water heaters and built-in kitchens because dishwashers were connected to the plumbing and because the cabinets from back when they were steel were Homart. When we replaced the builder-model water heater in the late 50s, we got a Homart. It had a really nice annodized aluminum badge on it divided diagonally between a pale turquoise and a gold-tone with a silver line drawing of a house diagonally divided between the two colors like the way the Edge Of Night shadow used to move. The turquoise side had a snow flake or two and the gold-tone side had the sun in the sky. Below that in big silver letters was HOMART, but I think that the M and the A had rounded tops.
John and I took one of these out of a house in University Park, near the U of MD two or three years ago, in the winter. I remember the snow and ice. We also got a 1960s Wizzard Dryer that was mechanically similar to a WP. Note the WP/KM style agitator cap on top of the impeller and how the heating element forms part of the guard around the impeller. When we disconnected the plumbing, we had to lift the dishwasher up and over the connections that came through the floor to remove it. The lid spring is still strong. When I first met John and Jeff in 81, they had this motor and heater assembly in their weird parts collection. Someone in Baltimore had the sink and DW removed from his kitchen when he remodeled, but that combo was too large to store and we did not have the big warehouse yet and now that thing is too full. That slanted trough detergent dispenser is interesting. My mom sent me a clipping from the Atlanta Journal years ago about a man who still lives in his family's house and still uses this dishwasher that his father put in around 1950. It's been used at least once a day for all of these years and has only needed a small repair.
When they talk about the add-a-dish feature and how the cycle restarts when the lid is opened, that is a nice way of saying that the gravity drain is held closed by electricity so if the dishwasher cycle is interrupted in any way, the drain opens and you lose the wash water. The portable did not have that feature since it had to have an electric drain pump to get the water up through the drain hose to the sink.
Homart was S & R's brand on furnaces, water heaters and other things that were considered home infrastructure. Homart was one of the special names like Coldspot was for refrigerators & Craftsman for tools. That was why, even after the dishwashers were branded Kenmore, they continued for a long time to be sold near the water heaters and built-in kitchens because dishwashers were connected to the plumbing and because the cabinets from back when they were steel were Homart. When we replaced the builder-model water heater in the late 50s, we got a Homart. It had a really nice annodized aluminum badge on it divided diagonally between a pale turquoise and a gold-tone with a silver line drawing of a house diagonally divided between the two colors like the way the Edge Of Night shadow used to move. The turquoise side had a snow flake or two and the gold-tone side had the sun in the sky. Below that in big silver letters was HOMART, but I think that the M and the A had rounded tops.
jasonl
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The Kenmore name makes the inner housewife in me go "ahhhh....", the CRAFSTMAN appliance motor on the inside makes the MAN in me go "Humph humph humph humph humph!" (like Tim Allen on Tool Time).
Beautiful DW and still in operation. Yay for Kenmore!
Beautiful DW and still in operation. Yay for Kenmore!
The Homart; brought to you by the inventor of the:
Was this possibly a near-sleazy attempt by Sears to capitalize on Hobart's success? I wonder if there was a lawsuit?
Was this possibly a near-sleazy attempt by Sears to capitalize on Hobart's success? I wonder if there was a lawsuit?
westytoploader
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I'd also be interested to see the price of a competing HoBART KitchenAid from that time as well.
Aren't the Sears machines considered one the better impeller designs that are more effective at washing than others?
Aren't the Sears machines considered one the better impeller designs that are more effective at washing than others?
customline
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I love it !
Welcome to the Kenmore club ! I just completed my '55 portable and I love using it. The round flip top is really cool.
Welcome to the Kenmore club ! I just completed my '55 portable and I love using it. The round flip top is really cool.
Wow, nice condition!
But...
That automagic pop up drain simply is the COOLEST thing out there. Pretty simple, too - looks like they modified a conventional sink drain and pop-up.
1700 rpm motor
And it spins that impeller around.
How well did these old impeller machines clean?
But...
That automagic pop up drain simply is the COOLEST thing out there. Pretty simple, too - looks like they modified a conventional sink drain and pop-up.
1700 rpm motor
And it spins that impeller around.How well did these old impeller machines clean?
Some better than others, I love my 1950 Westinghouse which is installed in my kitchen as I use it daily. The Westhinghouse cleans perfectly, I have rarely have to wash anything twice. Some of the credit has to go to Cascade with Dawn, its seems to be made for impeller dishwashers and produces results better than any detergent I have ever used in vintage machine.
whirlcool
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I seem to remember that the HOMART name was also used by Sears on outdoor equipment such as hoses and tools, etc. I also seem to remmeber seening HOMART central air conditioning condensers as well. Also the above ground pools that Sears used to sell were under the HOMART name too. These were all in the late 50's and early 60's.
SUCH a tiny impeller.
*AHEM* size queen. lol --just kidding--
COOL!
I had never seen the Homart name except in my house which had a SEARS /Homart oil-fired steam boiler. The house was built in 1946, and the neighbors say it was at first coal-heated. So I am not sure of when the Homart heater was installed.
*AHEM* size queen. lol --just kidding--
COOL!
I had never seen the Homart name except in my house which had a SEARS /Homart oil-fired steam boiler. The house was built in 1946, and the neighbors say it was at first coal-heated. So I am not sure of when the Homart heater was installed.
Was this possibly a near-sleazy attempt by Sears to capitalize on Hobart's success?
hmmm and I simply saw the name as "home-art." which I'd say is genius!
hmmm and I simply saw the name as "home-art." which I'd say is genius!
Homart was likely Sear's line of 'home' products, and the appliances were rolled in there prior to Kenmore (?).
Most memorable Homart product has to be those belt driven fans from hell that you STILL see peeking out of attic windows. They must have sold a zillion of them.
(The reverse with timer was the nicest of the 4 offered)
Most memorable Homart product has to be those belt driven fans from hell that you STILL see peeking out of attic windows. They must have sold a zillion of them.
(The reverse with timer was the nicest of the 4 offered)
cehalstead
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Homart
Back in the late '50's, we had a Homart window fan and a Homart water heater. IIRC, we never ran out of hot water, and the house stayed cool all summer. The water heater got some heavy usage....laundry for the four of us, and most of the time, laundry for my aunt, uncle, and two cousins. They had a well with not much production and a gray ghost Maytag. Aunt Hazel seemed to always be bringing her wash to run through Mother's '52 Unimatic and matching dryer (of course, not a problem for me...it meant I got to watch even more loads). And that was back in the days of hot wash/warm rinse and warm wash/warm rinse for everything. The only time I remember running out of hot water was the one summer day my cousin and I decided to play in the water outside (we had a hot tap on the side of the house, too) and we used all the water that was meant for laundry....
Back in the late '50's, we had a Homart window fan and a Homart water heater. IIRC, we never ran out of hot water, and the house stayed cool all summer. The water heater got some heavy usage....laundry for the four of us, and most of the time, laundry for my aunt, uncle, and two cousins. They had a well with not much production and a gray ghost Maytag. Aunt Hazel seemed to always be bringing her wash to run through Mother's '52 Unimatic and matching dryer (of course, not a problem for me...it meant I got to watch even more loads). And that was back in the days of hot wash/warm rinse and warm wash/warm rinse for everything. The only time I remember running out of hot water was the one summer day my cousin and I decided to play in the water outside (we had a hot tap on the side of the house, too) and we used all the water that was meant for laundry....
If you look closely under the impeller, you will see 4 baffles that come from under the mounting flange inside the tank. These kept the water from swirling ahead of the impeller and forced it up onto the impeller as it passed. They are mentioned in the description of the portable and might be the flow modulator mentioned in the paragraphs under the dw/sink model.
Early GE top-loading DWs used to stress putting a plate in each corner of the tank to balance the wash action, but in the Fall of 1950, they introduced a wash action regulator to give uniform washing ation for large and small loads, a power pre rinse before the washing started to flush loose soil down the drain and warm the load and a Calrod heating element in the sump to maintain heat and shorten the drying time to 15 minutes with the impeller serving as a fan to circulate the heated air. The washing and rinsing part of the cycle was 14 minutes long, so cycles were getting longer, up to 29 minutes in the GE.
Early GE top-loading DWs used to stress putting a plate in each corner of the tank to balance the wash action, but in the Fall of 1950, they introduced a wash action regulator to give uniform washing ation for large and small loads, a power pre rinse before the washing started to flush loose soil down the drain and warm the load and a Calrod heating element in the sump to maintain heat and shorten the drying time to 15 minutes with the impeller serving as a fan to circulate the heated air. The washing and rinsing part of the cycle was 14 minutes long, so cycles were getting longer, up to 29 minutes in the GE.
