Solid Tub Speed Queen? - $50 in Wisconsin Rapids, WI

[drummerboy928]

Found this gem while browsing marketplace. I believe it to be a solid tub speed queen, however I'm unsure what year it is. Someone should save it!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3380962205552146/

 

[maytag85]

Yep, that’s a solid tub Speed Queen . Not to get my hopes up, but whenever I see a Speed Queen posted in this forum index, I always hope it’s a solid tub Speed Queen but is the 1980 to the present Speed Queen washer which isn’t all that exciting compared to a solid tub Speed Queen washer, but finally a Speed Queen solid tub washer for the first time in a while.

 

[swestoyz]

Early 70's reversing motor SQ. The grey agitator was used during this period. Love that it still has the original grey cap, too!

Ben

 

[akronman]

I have that same machine

Mine is gold, otherwise it's the same. Once I replaced the pump, pn#25178 still available on Ebay, it has run PERFECTLY ever since

 

[Chetlaham]

Must Know More

How long was the fill time from "extra fill" to the point agitation started?

 

How did the washer know with how much water to fill during the rinse?

 

What would happen if you set the washer back on fill when the tub was full of water?

 

I've never seen a machine like this in person.

 

[DADoES]

 
How long was the fill time from "extra fill" to the point agitation started? --- Each higher fill position is one additional timer increment so presumably one minute longer than the Large position.  The purpose of Extra Fill is to get a full fill in situations of low water pressure, not to get more water for a larger-than-Large load.  Any water above the normal Large level will effectively overflow and drain away.

How did the washer know with how much water to fill during the rinse? --- Rinses are always full fill.  I recall aunty (who was accustomed to grandpa's Whirlpool) said she was initially concerned that something was wrong with the SQ always filling to maximum for rinse regardless of the wash fill setting and had questioned the dealer who explained that's how it's supposed to work.

What would happen if you set the washer back on fill when the tub was full of water? --- The machine would fill again for the selected fill time and thus overflow all the extra water into the outer tub.  The motor (non-reversing) ran continuously for the entire cycle on aunty's machine, so the excess water would immediately drain.  I don't know SQ's design history as to when they went to a reversing motor on solid-tub models, in which case the motor may not run immediately at start of the fill and an overflow of the outer tub could possibly occur depending on what protection, if any, was in effect.

I've never seen a machine like this in person. --- I hadn't been introduced to a SQ until aunty's.

 

[swestoyz]

This machine is timed fill with a calibrated water valve to fill within the allotted time for a full tub. Extra fill would often be used when the machine is used with low water pressure. The rinse will fill the tub full regardless of where the wash was set.

You can check this out on a similar timed fill Speed Queen, here:

 

[Chetlaham]

Thanks DaDoEs and Swestoyz!

 

Do you know how long the fill time was on the timer, and how many gallons per minute the valves let through?

 

I really like this concept, though me being me, would still have a pressure switch.

 

I noticed that, the machine in the vid does run the motor, so any water overflow would drain out. Also saw this video in the side bar, Speed Queen sure has a nice concept going- I wish it was more common back in the day. Not sure why Fitler Flos, WCI, ect over took this design by so much.

 

 

 

[swestoyz]

Speed Queen used various flow washers in their water valves over the years that were calibrated specific rates, anywhere between 3.2 GPM and all the way up to 4 GPM. Most late 60’s through early 70’s timers provide four intervals for the wash fill with again various durations depending on model and features.

The ‘67 in the video came for the factory with a 3.5 GPM water valve with a 60 second interval timer. The extra fill portion on the timer is a total of five intervals, with full being four intervals at 14 gallons. I put a 3.8 GPM NOS water valve in it as the 3.5 ones are really hard to come by.

Ben

 

[Chetlaham]

Thank You!

These are numbers I was searching for. I will begin doing some math. I've long been drawing up designs for time filled washers and I've always been juggling the best fill rate vs an acceptable time duration.

 

 

I take it the timer is 72 increments all the way around? Timed filling vs pausing the timer until pressure satisfaction adds 8 extra minutes to each cycle, so for a fully featured timer (3 cycles and over) I find myself needing 120 and 180 second increments to make it all fit. But in the processes I end up with longer fill times- ie 2 180 second increments 6 minutes or 12 minutes of filling total wash + rinse. I think I can strike a healthy balance now.