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@maytaga806: Jerome uses Speed Queens at his local laundromat. There current agitators have no trouble turning over load when reasonably load yes, however, in theory, a Dual Action agitator would be able to handle even larger loads increasing both the capacity and efficiency of any Speed Queen washer. In a commercial environment this could be a huge plus. Customers can wash larger loads while the owner saves on water.  
 
How many more clothes do you need to pack into a washer ? I loaded my speed Queen awn 432 right to the very top and I always got rollover. You folks are talking about forcing more into the load and then putting more of a strain on the whole mechanism.

Dual action agitators are fine but not in a speed Queen tub.They don't need it and neither did ANY large capacity washer.

Must every washer manufacturer become the BORG ? ..."Resistance is futile...you will all be dual action"..(insert crazy laughter) !
 
Well, that would be ignoring the monster smash success of Kenmore and Whirlpool. Who become world leaders in laundry in part because of dual action agitator. To my knowledge Whirlpool and Kenmore never suffered increased motor, coupler or transmission burn outs from the DA agitators. Instead of dragging on clothes, the corkscrew gently pushes them downward. 

 

 

Honest question, why did you abandon your AWN432?
 
I would argue the DD large tubs needed dual action. The tubs were so deep and skinny there was no way a single action agitator would turn over a load of towels or jeans.
 
Well I didn't actually abandon it. I was moving into a new home with new machines in place already. The Speed Queen and the Whirlpool WFW6620 went to a collector whom I forget now, but hindsight is 20/20 and I would probably have kept the Speed Queen in storage.

Btw, whirlpool and Kenmore were hugely successful before the introduction of the Dual Action agitator.

I'm not totally against the dual action agitator and it has its place.

I was using a 1974 Kenmore 70 series for 2 months before giving it a break again and that Penta Swirl agitator would have been fine if they had stuck with that.

I know I'm in the minority on that here, but I have loaded that machine up like I did my Whirlpool and I got good turn over.

There has to be free enough movement for clothes to roll over.

At this point I really don't even care. Speed Queen will do what they will do and if they add DAA, so be it 🤷
 
I can empathize, hindsight really is 20/20. 15 years ago I let go of a new Power Clean dishwasher. I regret it every day, but at the time I just didn't know what I now know today.

 

 

Pat I understand what you're saying. However, IMHO a DA in a Speed Queen can get another few pounds of clothes in the basket without sacrificing cleaning. Speed Queen would have a bragging point and sell more. 

 

The only way things will get better would be an increase in market share. Whirlpool, Eletrolux, Samsung, Bosch, GE and the like all survive and thrive off one thing: a lack of competition. People choose one or the other settling on merde because they have no choice. If Speed Queen took a major chunk of competitor sales the only way Whirlpool and others could bring customers back would be dropping the fake fragile nonsense and start selling durable washers. 
 
My opinion after using both MT575 and SQTC5

As a home user who utilizes both models every week, here's my take on them.

I believe the Maytag (MT) has an edge when it comes to cleaning performance due to its dual-action agitator. It effectively moves clothes through the water, ensuring they get thoroughly cleaned. My MT is approaching seven years old this summer, and the only part I've had to replace is the agitator dogs—a simple and inexpensive part (less than $5) that allows the top and bottom of the agitator to move in opposite directions. For the first five years, it endured heavy, "family-style" use. The clothes come out clean, and the wash cycles are short and efficient, allowing me to do multiple loads in a day. This is especially helpful for families who may need to do a load after work or dedicate a single day for laundry. The addition of a water level switch in newer models was the only feature I felt was missing in mine. I rarely experience out-of-balance loads—just balance like items together. For example, balancing a small pet bed with a towel usually resolves it. I expect a typical family might get 8 to 10 years out of this washer before a major repair (like the gear case or control board) leads them to replace it instead of repair. However, I expect one will have more inexpensive repairs due to the part that allows the tub to spin or not spin, a plastic part under the agitator, and possibly the agitator itself. This washer's design would be less forgiving to misuse. Not that it really matters, but I prefer the clean look of one color and not the harsh black/white color combo.

On the other hand, the Speed Queen TC5 stands out for overall durability. It has a real transmission and a superior suspension system (the metal outer tub is secured to the base with springs for added stability). My favorite feature is the eco cycle, which, when combined with the heavy soil option, turns into a super cycle with an extended wash time and customizable water temperature. The spray rinse works efficiently, and I use a spin dryer afterward to remove any remaining residue. If needed, I can run another eco cycle without the half-tub rinse option. The only improvements I would suggest are at least water level switch. A dual action agitator would be beneficial too. When it comes to bulky and large items, this is where I really see difference that DU can make. Apart from replacing the belt, this washer should last an average family about 12 to 15 years, while a single person or couple could likely get the full 20 to 25 years advertised. The only potential issue would be with the control board, though these seem to be more affordable to replace than those on the Maytag. The bearings wearing out is the most likely reason I'd replace it.

Keep in mind, I am a homeowner and would have to pay someone else the full cost of parts and labor for anything other than a minor repair. For those who can get parts for less and can repair them yourself, the life expectancy of especially the Speed Queen would be a lot more.

In my opinion, both models perform well, but the Speed Queen will probably outlast the Maytag. This is where price comes into play. For those seeking a matching set, there's not much justification I can find for the higher price of the SQ dryer. Many people report that simpler models from Maytag or Whirlpool actually perform as well, if not better, at a lower price. Maytag's decision to add the water level switch was a smart one, as it might prevent some people from looking beyond that feature and going out of their way to purchase elsewhere. I can honestly say, I'd been happy with the new Maytag with water-level control set. True it won't last as long, but I didn't pay as much either.

That being said, I did see a Whirlpool set priced just over $1K. The washer had the dual-action agitator, and the dryer featured the top-pull vent (which I recall some of you preferred). I will say that front-load dryers tend to let more lint escape compared to top-pull ones. If I had to buy a set today, this would definitely be on my list especially if budget is a concern. I'm not so sure I could justify the Maytag commercial over this. Making sure it is used properly is key. May not last as long, but laundry mats are expensive, inconvenient, and you don't know what's been used in those washers that could ruin your clothes.

The cost of Speed Queen washer and dryers top load sets have gotten so high, that people willing to pay or who have space that may also opt for what will be a better front load in that price range. One of my kids really likes her GE front load washer. It was enough that I would at least consider front load again.
 

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