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The New SQ TL Washers

As I have said before many consumers will like this new machine, it has several advantages, better spin, more gentile on clothing, quieter and more reliable and longer potential life.

 

This new design is not going to be improved to clean really big dirty loads by reprogramming it, it is what it is, we are going to sell some of these machines this year, but as we always do we will have to make sure this washer is a good choice for our customer.

 

John L.
 
I can understand Speed Queen doing some High speed spinning

Other than with the laundry.
They spent a great deal of time and money developing the industry equivalent of the Chevy Vega. Right now they are trying to convince their stock holders they did the right thing.

Where I look at them heavily marketing this machine is on the commercial arena. They will program it to auto fill, and sell it as saving resources, increasing profits and more durable. The coin laundries will jump at them where the users have little choice but to pay their $1.50 to have their clothes swished around.

Drift:
Speaking of coin laundries. I took a big area rug, not too large, but too large for a home machine to the laundry recently. I put it in a Wescomat triple loader, where a double loader would have sufficed. In any case, the regular wash was $4.50, if you wanted warm or hot water add .50 cents. Heavy wash was an additional .50 cents. I hadn't realized that they were charging for warm/hot water anymore. It has been a few years since I was at a coin laundry. [this post was last edited: 2/9/2018-12:15]
 
Sorry to continue the drift......

 

 

But the Cosworth (1975-76 only) was the best version of the Vega, IMHO.  A friend has a '76 be bought new and it's in excellent condition, no rust either.

 

PS... 1976 and later Vegas didn't have any problems with early rust, due to galvanizing all of the body panels starting that year. 

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SQ's Youtube Channel

Uploaded another in the consumer focus group series, this one on vibration. The difference is, this time they locked down the comments. I guess they cannot stand the complaints that erupted in the previous video comments.

 

The video aforementioned:

 
The vibration one is fair.
My parents' Maytag 765 cabinet flexes and vibrates on high spin, even though the spin is quiet and smooth.
The WP/MT steel is thinner, for sure.

But locking down comments?
Wow, what a bunch of cowards.
I PM'ed their channel, telling them such.
 
I'd pick the Cabrio over the new SQ. But I think the WP machines do a good job anyway, when used appropriately. Though I'm intrigued to see how these new SQ washers work. Curiosity killed the cat, and in my case often, my bank account. LOL.
 
I was not even going to respond to some of the insulting remarks made on my post but all I will say is I have 'very high' standards for clean laundry and if stating that the new SQ washer I got does a great job gets this type of response on this site then it is not really worth posting if one is going to be attacked for stating their observations. I am not a proponent of any particular brand of washer and thought that people might just be interested in the opinions of an entire family who now has this new style washer. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I thought that this site we shared experiences with different types of machines and not necessarily to promote one over another. All I can say is if you don't have the machine you don't have the experience with it as I do now, it may be 'different' than one is used to but that does not mean the performance is as bad as many people make it out to be without even having the machine..... you can't judge a book by it's cover. I am not sure if there was any tweaking between the tests and the actual machines that were put out, I can only say it works for me and my family just fine. I don't bother to post anything more on this site on this subject as it seems most don't want to hear about positive feedback on any new SQ.
 
Ryan,

I didn't criticize you. I did leave open the possibility that your machine reflects changes to the programming which resulted in it performing well.

 

This is not The Collector's Club Which Must Not Be Named, this is a group of people who are capable of disagreeing without being disagreeable.

 

I've taken radically, totally, absolutely different views to many of the other members here on a few subjects through the years. Some Imperial Queens did, indeed, act rather boorishly but most just disagreed and we continued to work together on the things we had in common.

 

Your Speed Queen experience matches that of just about all of us prior to the 2018 models. Good for you! 

 

However - there's no question that Alliance is not reacting to criticism the way Whirlpool or GE or Electrolux react. There's also no question that quite a few videos and user reports show some serious problems with cleaning and even operation compared to other SQ washers.

 

One way or the other, this will settle out. In a short time, other SQ washers will be found to be working as well as yours - problem solved.

Or, in a short time enough people who like earlier SQ washers are going to chime in with those seeing problems and Alliance will either have to fix things or drop the current line-up.

 

Dyson and Cadillac and Maytag all went through this at some point. People who buy and sell at this end of the market have expectations which the manufacturer will, sooner rather than later, meet.
 
more Vega...

I'm old so I remember GM's preview ads for the new Vega: "The little car that does everything well". Did very little WELL and then the engine trashed on first several model years.

So again,ALLIANCE,do several different loads side by side '17/'18 with same dirt/stains and same number of items. We will be HAPPY to judge the results!!

Love my 2012 542.
 
They are good at painting a picture

Noticed this today. Pay attention to how the TOL model is 5 stars, middle of the line 4 stars and BOL 2 stars soon to go to 3 when they delete the review from 6 hours ago. Perhaps its a coincidence, but I can seriously see them giving the TOLs 5 stars and letting more bad reviews slip trhough as you go down the line to create the perception that when you pay more you get more. Typical uniformed consumer will certainly go to the TOL no questions asked.

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6 hours ago

Here is the review. It does not surprise me as this is the customer base Speed Queen normally deals with- not clueless people who just spend more for the fun of it.

Also, notice what it replaced. A 30 year old Maytag which could easily make this a Helical transmission and one of those "finless" agitators. Not regarded as top cleaning washers around here. The fact one of these users is disappointed speaks for itself.

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And notice how the customer could tell the difference between the quality and performance rather then just rate everything negative like a typical dissatisfied consumer. The people buying these machines are not dumb, but extremely intelligent and well informed people. Working class people with a technical background that get their clothes really dirty and affluent college educated individuals who refuse anything less then the best in all categories. Two types of people who will not take dirty clothes or BS. As for the average joe, no way would he or she spend that much money for something that looks like a WWII artifact (in style) when for the same money can buy a really sexy looking TOL Samsung/LG/Whirlpool, or for 1/3 the price a reliable good cleaning VMW assuming they even know about SQ.

This new machine offers nothing for any buyer.
 

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