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My actual model number is LWS02NW.......which does not show up anywhere for parts.......so I use one of the other machines, with exception to the control panel and options, all insides were the same, until I started searching and found these models numbers give a cheaper price, why I don't know, usually most places are about al the same, espescially with same model and parts.........

I also noticed on this one, the water valve is dubbed down on the hot side, a slow trickle, the cold side is full flow, all screens are clean, its a sealed unit, I can't open it up and see if there is a restrictor, I am going to try and swap out with one from a maytag or whirlpool to see if theres a difference...

although Laundress did find this link for me.....

http://www.speedqueen.com/vend_adv_pdf/am07-211.pdf
 
Reverse Hoses

Why not just reverse the hoses and electrical connections? Then the hot water will have the advantage in colder winter months.

Malcolm
 
I did the reverse Malcolm, thats how I made sure it was the valve...its a very small trickle from that side of the valve...rather have something that is at least equal, then can adjust the sigots......

there are six springs, 2 sets per location in "V" formation, equal around the outter tub, but during agitation it tilts forward....I was looking at other methods to pull the tub back, but this is all I came up with so far, and it still plays on my mind, I may try a few other ideas...
 
Mine does that (annoying to the viewer), but SQ said is suppose to that...there is even a styrofoam block on the left to keep it from clanking on the side wall on heavy loads. Wish it would just stay still like the WP.
 
Dan

I have four foam blocks also, but with so much motion over time, they have worn a groove in the foam, so at this point theres no value of them being there....so far the hose idea is working on keeping it level, and they will flex enough during spin if needed, not like it really moves out of balance anyway
 
Springs

Is there any way to release a couple of the springs on the front side? Do you think that would increase the pull towards the back?

I wonder if adjusting the level of the machine higher in the front would help.

Malcolm
 
I did take a spring in the front off one by one, it leveled during the wash, but then banged against the rear of the machine during spin, even rotated the springs around, in case they were a little weak...

Chuck Melton of SQ also said its supposed to do this, its just the torque of the motor, very powerful...

but no matter what, it centers itself during the spin...
 
As for the inside of the agitator getting scummed up from the softner.....I drilled a 1/2 inch hole down thru the center, and 4 more under the cup, but just above the hub, now I have water flowing thru like a Maytag Powerfin with each stroke...the oval holes were already there from the factory...

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Martin, those bottom holes may be big enough to cause a problem. If you start missing socks suddenly, check your agitator :-)

About the forward lean, SQ gave us the same story last year: it's expected and normal, and the washtub centers itself every spin.
 
Jeff

I was hopeing at first that the water would just go down thru the center, but the drive hub seals the underneath off and no water would go down thru, at least not at a fast pace...so I had to put side holes in, afraid if I went small it would trap lint....

for only five years old, and presumming the agitator was never removed, theory has it that under agitator is trapped air, yet the whole underneath was coated with scum and lint, just a little odd, hopefully now it will stay somewhat clean, although the ocasssional string may get caught....
 
I tried that trick of using a belt to get the agitator off...still wont budge. But I am glad to see that the agitator is solid vane! Oh and make sure you sand that hole for rough edges Martin...wouldnt want your unmentionables to get a snag.
 
One thing I just noticed is the openings are set at the curves of the vane on this agitator. Not like mine where its straight up and down. Me thinks that the water is already being driven into the barrel of the agitator...something to check for Martin when your doing a load. Oh on my SQ washer the tub does come forward some and it recenters during spin. Never had a problem. You may want to rethink putting hoses under that pump housing since to me if you have a load out of balance that when the pump hits that "shock absorber" it might put pressure on the housing and the drive. Just a thought. [this post was last edited: 10/7/2010-19:37]
 
Mike

I was thinking the same thing with the hoses under the pump, but so far there doesn't seem to be any flexing of the housing, but time will tell......I was also thinking of using, not styrofoam like the manufacturer, but thick foam for a hair/couch cushion, glued to the inside front cover, and then use an electric knife to trim back until the unit sits center....should not be too hard, only time I have done this was on a Kenmore DD, I wrapped the whole outter tub in egg crate foam, but that was more for sound deadening, and to keep the unit from twisting so much during agitation....

as for agitator removal....if your belts are long enough, or you may want to use rachet tie downs, which work better, and a 2x4 over the top of the unit, padding of course, criss-crossing two of them, and either lift the 2x4, or better yet, use the ratchet action as this tightens the belts this should also remove the agitator....works many times for me....these ones are a little tough for me also, I have to lift and rock them at the same time to get them to release....
 
I do wonder how much of a difference there is between the flex vane and solid vane agitators in wash action. And how much water each moves. I want the solid vane because I keep getting lint stuck under the vanes. I notice it more with linty loads like new towels. I love the way the solid vane agitator pictured above has the vanes at the base stick out some..ala a Whirlpool Surgilator.
 
I am going back to Caleco in the next week or two.....if you guys don't have the parts yet, I will see what I can get from Phil......cross my fingers for "free" or at least cheap, theres a number of machines that are too bad, and they go to the crusher.....all I can do is ask....

can one of you guys take a pic of your flex vane, just curious as to what it looks like.....All I have seen so far is a drawing in the parts list...
 
I'm wondering if the solid vane agitator is smaller than the flex vane? The laundromat washers are typically 2.8 cu ft, while the home versions are 3.3 cu ft. Not sure if the agitator is different in size though.
 
Vari-Level

I really like the fact that they use a variable water level control on their machines rather than a fixed position switch. It really allows the user to custom set the water level of every load.

I used to evenly load the heavy items first, then fill in with smaller items around. Identify the level of the dry load against the number of rows of holes in the tub and decide where the water level should be set. Then I would set the water level switch to high and fill the machine to the row of holes identified. Stop the fill and slow lower the selector listening for the click. Then pull the time knob out to start washing. I was always amazed at how balanced the spins would be and how quick the turnover when doing this.

Malcolm
 
I do that as well Malcolm. I remember reading in my mom's 1984 WP (with Super Surgilator) manual that you should always toss the clothes in loosely and measure the load as dry clothes. Great advice--still works like a charm.
 
According to my brochure, I do have the 3.3 tub, but the agitator did seem small/short to me, and maybe because of it missing the dispenser, I also have to reduce the water level, exlarge fills up to the plastic rim, just to the top of the cap.....

you guys are correct on loading and water level, filling this machine full of water for a lesser load of clothes, actually doesn't move the clothes as well as a matched level to load size......these tubs hold a big load of laundry

my agitator measures 14 inches tall without the cap/dispenser and 12 1/2 inches across the base
 
Belt

Martin,

What are the belts like on these machines? Do they show any signs of wear?

Were these machines source from a nearby military base? I have a reseller nearby that sells off contract machines. He got a semi full back about this time last year. He let me run a SQ FL through a cycle. I think that is what sold me on them.
He said something like 1 out of 20 will come back with a problem but for the most part they are bulletproof.

Malcolm
 
I remember the first time the I took the agitator out of my mom's WP in the mid 80s...(unknown to her of course). I was amazed at how small it was...always looks bigger in the tub. :)

Mine is approx 15" to bottom of fabric softener dispenser and I would estimate 12-13" on the base. I have an old (identical) Amana agitator back home - will measure that one next week. Interesting.

The one thing that I did first notice about Speed Queens is that the tub is shorter than my WP, but also WIDER than the Whirlpool...I've said before--almost the same logic as an old wringer washer.
 
The belts don't show any signs of wear, which is a little suprising, I expected some wear or at least some belt dust...

Ironic, they are from a Military base less than an hour from me(McGuire Airforce Base), but Caleco is a little over 1 1/2 hour ride one way into Pennsylvania, they have a contract with the military and other Laundries in the Mid-Atlantic region, still worth the trip, You can't beat $25.00 a piece, I am going back soon, a few friends and myself want a few more, I'm going to get a double stack dryer.....Were in the process of changing over to solar power, so I want to be ready with electric dryers and putting the gas ones on the back burner, so to speak....

but anywho, he has a lot of coin operated machines as well, these machines are only in service for the warranty period, 5 years, and then put up for sale, there were over 300 machines to pick from, all the same model, in the back corner was about 20 or so machines to bad to sell, these will be dismantled, many parts are stacked neatly and organized on tall shelves across the warehouse, if a machine in service broke down, they would just take a replacement and exchange it, bring it back to the warehouse for SQ service, or repair it themselves, seems win win for these guys.....

I'm taking a camera for the museum next time, and if allowed, I will take ones of the warehouse also, my mouth was hitting the ground the whole time I was there, pure amazement, like a kid in a candy store....

You do have to call in advance before going, I am going to ask about agitators and caps for some of the guys in case they can't get them on-line
 

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