philr
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Have a look at the pics. Can you see something wrong?!
Strange early-model Flair!
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ovrphil
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they are showing more than one model of the Flair it seems
Wow, is it a WCI replacement glass panel? Very strange!
philr
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I doubt WCI would have cared to redesign a replacement panel for it! Maybe the owner broke it and tried to recreate a glass panel for it?
It's also an early model with the burner drawer release located on the left.
It's also an early model with the burner drawer release located on the left.
bluejay
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I've never seen one with blue instead of black. It looks odd.
The only reason why I suspected that this may be a WCI reissue is the font and logo used for the Frigidaire name matches that of the early 80's WCI Frigidaire stuff.
If someone truly did this themselves, I'll tip my hat to them.
If someone truly did this themselves, I'll tip my hat to them.
philr
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I also thought it was funny to have this WCI period emblem.
I was thinking that maybe someone who was trying to recreate the panel used the fonts they found on Internet (see link) without realizing that it was from at least 20 years later... In fact, Frigidaire did use this font in the very last years of it's GM ownership but at that time, the Frigidaire logo was always seen next to a GM logo.
I was thinking that maybe someone who was trying to recreate the panel used the fonts they found on Internet (see link) without realizing that it was from at least 20 years later... In fact, Frigidaire did use this font in the very last years of it's GM ownership but at that time, the Frigidaire logo was always seen next to a GM logo.
philr
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I have also never seen a Canadian Flair with the Speed Heat burner. This one seems to have "Speed Heat" written on the glass. It's a very early model but still, I doubt that it would have that feature since it was already gone on some 1959 ranges...
philr
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I did get a few pictures from the seller, I also sent him the link to this thread.
he was kind enough to verify a few things while I talked to him on the phone and the model number plate says "Dayton Ohio" so it's a US model... It also doesn't have fuses in the base cabinet like the Canadian models.
How did this happen? Factory replacement glass or homemade?
he was kind enough to verify a few things while I talked to him on the phone and the model number plate says "Dayton Ohio" so it's a US model... It also doesn't have fuses in the base cabinet like the Canadian models.
How did this happen? Factory replacement glass or homemade?
danemodsandy
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If That's Homemade....
....It cost someone a bunch of money. The only way to do that is to silk-screen it onto the glass, which ain't cheap even if you do it all yourself.
And if it's screened by a DIY'er, it's probably paint - what are the chances someone has the capability at home to fire frit onto glass?
Nah, gotta be a reissue. Which may mean that WCI assumed some parts-supply obligations when it bought the brand, and had to manufacture some things to meet them. Again, it may mean that. Putting the new WCI logo on the recreated part would be consistent with that - it would be an effort to guide GM owners to the new company.
P.S. - The indicia and logo aside, isn't that glass drilled in a lot of places?
....It cost someone a bunch of money. The only way to do that is to silk-screen it onto the glass, which ain't cheap even if you do it all yourself.
And if it's screened by a DIY'er, it's probably paint - what are the chances someone has the capability at home to fire frit onto glass?
Nah, gotta be a reissue. Which may mean that WCI assumed some parts-supply obligations when it bought the brand, and had to manufacture some things to meet them. Again, it may mean that. Putting the new WCI logo on the recreated part would be consistent with that - it would be an effort to guide GM owners to the new company.
P.S. - The indicia and logo aside, isn't that glass drilled in a lot of places?
philr
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isn't that glass drilled in a lot of places?
Yes it is!
Yes it is!
danemodsandy
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Mon cher Racicot:
Then that also militates against home-made.
I cannot imagine a DIY'er out there having the ability to do the silk-screening and having the ability to get all those holes correctly placed and drilled without cracking the glass.
Okay, maybe David d-jones here on AW. But only him.
Then that also militates against home-made.
I cannot imagine a DIY'er out there having the ability to do the silk-screening and having the ability to get all those holes correctly placed and drilled without cracking the glass.
Okay, maybe David d-jones here on AW. But only him.
It's most likely a factory replacement, as from what I remember most appliance manufacturers in that time period, guaranteed parts availability for about 15-18 years after the appliance was made. Since Flairs were made until at least the late 60's, 15 years would have been after the WCI takeover occured in '80.
A part such as shown was probably made by an outside vendor; I know many trim pieces were made for Frigidaire and other companies by a company located in Sabina, OH, as a friends mother had worked there. When GM sold Frigidaire to WCI, I imagine the contract was assumed by WCI as part of the deal.
A part such as shown was probably made by an outside vendor; I know many trim pieces were made for Frigidaire and other companies by a company located in Sabina, OH, as a friends mother had worked there. When GM sold Frigidaire to WCI, I imagine the contract was assumed by WCI as part of the deal.
I don't recall where I saw this (here or elsewhere), but I believe that part of the Frigidaire sale to WCI required them to supply replacement range parts for up to 25 years after the last GM built range. Now, this more than likely applied to switches, burners, and elements, but I can see WCI supplying some parts like the glass for a few years after the sale, utilizing pre-existing suppliers.
An interesting discussion. Too bad we won't know what really happened.
Ben
An interesting discussion. Too bad we won't know what really happened.
Ben
classiccaprice
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philr
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Will, this is a regular 1961 Custom Deluxe (model RCDB-640-1), the dial glass is original.
classiccaprice
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My mistake. Sorry!
philr
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There's no need to be sorry about that!
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