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macboy91si

macboy91si

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This poor soul, I picked this poor little guy up this week, and my oh my what a state of affairs. I've been looking for one of these for a few years now, and while not in great shape, I see hope and I think I can get her in usable shape (maybe)...

 

Not sure on the year, I'd guess early 1960's, it's a Hoover 0319, made in England. Any UK guys have more info or knowledge of parts for this? The thing is rough, pump is seized, rollers are cracked and all rubber is shot as well as the "Hoover" handle. The main concern is the rollers for the wringer are badly out of round and split. The wringer does not appear to have a way to release the tension?

 

Wish me luck, a few preliminary pics here:

 

 

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Ridden hard and put away wet

Tim

That must be a very rare bird in the US indeed. From the handle colour is might even be 1950s or very early 1960s as the hand grip went to grey in early 1960s. You will bed up with strong biceps in your right arm with this one although if you are tall you might not be usuing that much as these machines are quite low.

You may find that parts from early hoovermatics (round edged rather than square edged) where the pump is driven off the impeller pump will fit. I know some guys here in the UK have spare pumps (they are non-electrical) but of course there is the shipping charges ......

It was certainly well worth getting though, congratulations

Al
 
Hoover 0319 Single Tub

Hi Tim, glad you managed to collect it, as Al says above, its nothing that wont scrub up well....if you need any parts, list them here, there are enough about from new/old salvage etc...

It was first produced in January 1953, and the last one, serial number (866,620) was produced in January 1964...heres one I picked up a few years ago....

The link shows the one Robert had at the 2001 convention, the tub is the earlier non shine galvanised tub, nothing short of an oil can and new pipes should see it running a wash soon!!





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Open Up!

Could not wait to get home today and get into the machine. Some of the things I had expected and some were new. This is a NEAT little machine and that motor is way overkill for this mini machine.

Here I've removed the pump which was stuck. Someone has hooked up a power switch which may come in handy later.

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Switch Mod

This is the switch mod, I can see the need for a power switch on this machine, but I'm thinking this machine was a plug n go model. I may further modify this machine with a safer switch, the wiring is shakey at best.

Here is a pic of the junction.

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Some Friction

This is the big pulley that turns the pump. The pump pulley is metal and Bakelite, is there supposed to be a rubber band or something here? It's an interesting pulley. The tub to pump hose seems to be OK which is good.

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Pump Assembly

Here are the bearing and impeller out of the machine. The bearing is wallowed out and ruined. Someone tried to compact string of some sort into the hole and used horrid smelling grease to try and seal it. There is a LOT of play in the bushing, so I will need to either replace the pump with an electric alternative (don't want to) or find this pump base/bearing.

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Wringer

The lower roller is split pretty bad as well, I tried a test wring and the outer edges do most of the work, not sure what I can do there aside from source a replacement from someone.

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Rubber Bits

Almost all of the exterior rubber and plastic bits are rough. This is an example of what I'm dealing with...

I'm thinking I may be able to find a suitable replacement material for the rubber border trim.

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Unofficial Death Toll

So far I have a list

Plastic "Hoover" Handle
Lower Wringer Roller
Pump Bearing/Base
Any Spare Trim

I certainly have my work for me. The good news is that without the pump, the machine is so smooth and quiet. There is hope!

Also, is the machine supposed to have a rigid v-belt or the normal twin-tub elastic flopper?

Thanks

-Tim
 
Pump

Tim, our pump tyre is like this, is your pump the same??

It looks like your top trim is original and BLUE, the later ones are grey, and replacements are white like the machine above, its unlikely any of us have replacements orginals, certainly not blue....I would find some matching blue mastic sealant and coat it filling all the cracks and smooth it off, then cover with some polish...you`d be surprised how good they can come...

Will have a look at the spares between us and see whats we can pull together,

Mike

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Have To Look But Am Almost Sure My Hoover Manual

Covers those units.

IIRC those semi-automatics were the first washers offered by Hoover on both sides of the pond and predated twin tubs. Once the latter design was on the market and perfected the former was gradually phased out.
 
Old Hoovers

Thanks Mike for the info, I was going to ask if it was grey or that light blue that I've seen the old twinnies wear. I have the same pump pulley as that but with no tire, so it must be missing. I'm not sure what mastic sealer is, some sort of silicone sealant?

Launderess, I also seem to remember that there was a model before this design with gravity drain, much older looking.

It looks like many hours ahead of me :)

Thanks for all of the info!

-Tim
 
Single Tubs

Hi Laundress, that single tub is certainly not anything semi-automatic, its almost less than manual, not even a switch on it...Lol

Can you check your manuals and let us know when the single tubs stopped production, Have never seen any later US models that go with the blue/yellow 1970`s twinnys..

Interesting here, they where still produced and had a matching seperate spin dryer till the early 1990`s...

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Sealant

So just get some sealant and lathe over the cracks? I've never attempted that before but sounds like it could work. Should I find blue or use clear? I'm assuming an automotive grade rtv based type gasket bead silicone will work?

-Tim
 
Don't Think My Hoover Parts and Service Manual Gives Pro

Know the thing is in there because remember seeing the parts and IIRC repair information.

Single Hoover "SpinaRinses" never made it to the United States from what one can tell. Guess as sales of the Hoover TT declined and that model was phased out the company saw no need.

What Hoover did do on this side of the pond was offer a fully automatic washer and tumble dryer. IIRC they were not made by Hoover themselves but rebaged from another maker (Blackstone?).
 
Sealants and Big Hoovers

Hey Mike, I found some turquoise stuff at Lowes, silicone bathroom caulk, they have it in turquoise and more of a medium blue. I'm asssuming that is the same stuff.

Launderess, yes the full-size machines are Blackstone and are unique in their own way. I've had a chance to use one in person.

I was wondering about the spin-a-rinse machines, that would have been a nice addition to the lineup here.

-Tim
 
History

Tim

Your machine is little more than a development of the first and very basic Hoover single tub washer which looked like this - small capacity than yours - about 4lb

Although there is no confirmation it was sold in the US, it was sold in Canada, Paul (Torquoisedude) has one. As you can see it is very basic

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Under the draining board

The really novel thing about these washers (all of them) was their compact size which allowed them to fit easily into small british kitchens. A very large part of the housing stock which this machine would have been geared towards would have been living in 1920s & 1930s houses - houses from this period are noteable for their very small kicthen, often not much bigger than you would find in an apartment, so although very basic they were a useful and practical option

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Controls

I suspect the lack of any controls on this machine may have been influenced by the British habit of have switches to control our socket outlets, so once plugged in it could stay plugged in for the duration of the wash - being turned on and off "at the wall". Later models with a heater did have a rotary switch "off", "heat", "off", "motor" located on the lower RH side of the the machine.

Tim, you are correct that the wiring does look rather dodgey and could probably do with being replaced, a job that could not be simpler, but in your circumstances I thing an on/off switch would be very useful too.

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Spinarise

mention was been made further up of the Spinarise spin drier. This was a bit of good marketing by Hoover once they had developed the Hoovermatic as they could tap into at least 5 years legacy of more or less matching single tubs for updates. Also for those buying new but could only afford a wash tub or a spin drier, there was the prospect of a future sale via the Hoover Twosome concept



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Still a basic machine

In theory more expensive than a Hoovermmatic (two bodies etc) but with economies of scale and tooling probably paid for by this time it was quite a bit cheaper than the BOL Hoovermatic (the Hoover 65 - 65 guinies) - even cheaper if you had the model with no heater

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