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The 'Whirlpool Room'...

That would be the small, dark, padded room in the basement where all the Whirlpools have their hoses and power cords held behind their backs with little appliance straight jackets and a big 'QUARANTINE' sign on the door. All due to them being slightly 'off' from their proper Kenmore cousins... ROFLMAO!

RCD
 
whirlpool's fabric softener

Does anyone know if whirlpool packaged a FS Dispenser that sat on the surgilator? If so, what did it look like? Or was the person just expected to come back and add it to the rinse cycle?

Would these be considered standard capacity or large?
 
Electronic LKM BD washer or E-KM

Gordon these earlier E-KM washers without the later style interrogated triple dispenser still have three solenoids controlled by the board directly by the triacs on the board, one for bleach, one for fabric softener and one for the detergent dumper. While both systems worked well the triple dispenser was a big improvement because it diluted the detergent and FS and flushed itself out, having a lot of experience with both systems I would take the later system any day.
 
John,

Yes, I have several machines of both configurations. Personal preference wins out here and neither of us are wrong, but I would take the non-triple disp. machine any day. I wanted this particular model because it has the separate dispensers. I'd be even happier if they didn't have any dispener solenoids, but I realize this is for mid-line fare.

The triple dispenser honestly is not a favorite of mine. I know they're fun, and certainly quite unique to vintage machines and also very effective, but my experience with them recently hasn't been fun. In three machines (a 1972 Lady K, a 1985 Lady K, and that white 1986 Lady K from Andy), none of the systems worked properly. One needed the flow control valve that mounts to the transmission brace. One needed the whole reservoir, and one needs a solenoid AND the the flow valve. One I had to clean with a roto-rooter type brush to get all the mineral build-up out of the hoses leading to the softener section. I have a decent stache of parts, but we are looking at $$$ here. Other than dried out plungers (or clogged ones) in the electric dispenser version, I haven't had nearly the problem with these. Of course I may have just jinxed that now!

I think I worded my comment above poorly, but its the 1980 machine that I have been warned about the solenoids going bad - not in ones with the triple disp, however maybe they all do...

In whatever configuration, I intend to have these machines up and running properly. I will say that as I see it, they fit the old philosophy that people used to have about high-end machines - "just more to break".

Gordon
 
Electronic LKM BD washer or E-KM

I my experience the early style dispensers were much likely to blow out the microcomputer boards, what often happened was the FS plunger would get stuck in the gunky FS in the bottom of the reservoir and break off the steel solenoid plunger, once this happens the solenoid will immediately overheat, short and fry the board. WP had so much trouble with this happening that their 2nd generation E controlled washers had NO electric dispensers, KM models took the route of going to the better and more reliable Triple dispenser system.

 

Gordon while you may have seen more [ 3 ] triple dispenser KM washers with problems it really is not statistically accurate to conclude that they are more troublesome or even more expensive to repair.
 
Is there a cat about to hunch up and hiss in the post above?

John,

GO BACK AND RE-READ WHAT I SAID.

Forgeting for a moment what is statistically accurate or not, and better yet, drop the statistics altogether, I NEVER ONCE said anything about one system being more reliable than another, not once, nor did I draw any conclusions that would apply to anyone other than myself.

What I did say however, is that 1) I prefer the machines without the triple disp, 2) that I would rather there be no electric dispensers, and 3) that the triple dispenser is not a favorite of mine. I stand by those statements - they are a matter of personal preference.

If I had said, or even intimated, anything about the triple being less reliable than the separate electric dispensers, I would have said something like the following: "I think the triple dispenser is less reliable than the other type" and nothing less direct than that.

Please don't put words in my mouth (or in this case on the screen) for the sake of correcting someone.

Good freakin grief...
 
Electronic LKM BD washer or E-KM

You are correct Gordon I did read between the lines a little to much and apologize putting words in your mouth.

 

I did however have an appliance repair friend read all your posts and he came away with much the same conclusions that I did,

so I will not go back over them.

 

The TDS certainly had some problems, with most coming from using recirculated water being used to flush the dispensers.

Because these machines were popular during the era that people were switching to non-phosphated detergents coupled with

hard water and under use of detergents in general they could easily turn into a real mess.

 

The best dispensing system ever was certainly the TDS that used fresh water diluting & flushing as introduced on the KM DD washers. It is interesting that all washers today that have a TDS use fresh water.

 

 
 
I have customers today who are shocked

That I have made Rosalie's a powder detergent and not a liquid!( which was intentional from the begining!) They all say the same thing, "how on earth do you put it in the machine dispenser"?!!

I tell them just like a liquid! They balk-- always! I tell them you mean you didn't know your dispenser uses water to get the charge into the drum??

uh-duh

Unbelieveable!
 
"Is there a cat about to hunch up and hiss in the post a

Hey Gordon:

 

You're the one having the hissy fit! And you're the one who has been correcting people willy-nilly, lately--Glenn in all caps, no less, and a thread in the wrong place, when you announced your birthday in the wrong forum. How clever, so now you collect the strokes without ever having to give any in the green thread--just to mention a few of your many "corrections" among recent ones.

 

You have called people out for writing disrespectfully to another member; now you've done the same yourself to John who, as far as I've seen, and as you well know, doesn't even know how to hiss. This is no way for good friends to be addressing each other. I'm surprised at you.

 

Cease! ~ or I'll call the Imperial Police LOL.
 
The best thing to do...

Is just let this thread go bye. I feel for you, Kevin. I had my thread where I introduced my coppertone Lady K's to my other family and it devolved into an argument over some bs which I don't even remember anymore.

Guys and gals, let's adopt a new rule. When someone posts a new thread introducing a new find they brought home and want to happily share it(them) with the rest of us, DON'T PISS IN HIS/HER'S CORNFLAKES. If you would like to congratulate or complement, great. If you have a neat story or memory to share, awesome! Helpful suggestions are welcome. BUT if you feel the urge to knock the new find, start saying something controversial or just ruin the mood then either use the email system or start a different thread later! Don't be an ass. I love each and every one of you as a second family. Really! I expect better from us all (myself included!).

I'm sure I've probably torqued off someone or two. I'm sorry but I felt it needed to be said! I really do care for you all! Take this as I meant it. Please...

Sorry for my part, if any, Kevin. Thank you for sharing!

RCD
 

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