The justly famous Hoover Rinse-O-Matic !

[sesteve]

My thinking exactly Al

I've already checked out the parts diagrams for this just to see how it was done!! Shame they don't show how the recirc pump was fitted. I would be tempted to try this on my T5090 as even without the lint filter on the lid, it would still filter using the drain grid at the bottom. Will have to look into this.

It's always been a drawback of the Hoover twin tubs in the UK as if you wash items like a polo shirt it can come out covered in fluff and if it can't go in the dryer then it's a bit of a bind with a lint roller! Wonder why it was never adopted fully across the ranges?

More info on this feature would be really welcome
Steve

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[sesteve]

The attached diagram shows the fill hose is as the 3314L and I'm sure I saw a photo on someone else's thread which shows 2 hoses out of the rear

S

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[vacbear58]

Experiments & hoses

Steve

My mind turned to that already, actually easy enough to do test recirculation with either a Hoover single tub or an older style Hoovermatic which used pumps driven off the main wash motor. It should be easy enough to achieve re-circulation with a HMDL although it seems a shame to risk a pristine wash tub.

You are absolutly right the 3314 did have two hoses out the back - one was for the automatic rinse. Later models had teh connection on the wash deck although that alwasy seemed to be like a case of "why have a simple solution when a complicated one will do"

Sent you an email

Al

 

[twintubber]

You Really Started Something here, unclejohn!!!

I am amazed and thrilled at the amount of interest in this machine!
What is even more awesome, is that I seem to have the only other machine of this type that ANY AW.orger has seen or discovered. I wasn't aware that "out there in the world" this was as rare a machine to others as it was to me.
This gives me great incentive to restore mine back to it's glory and get it going again. Not to mention the videos I could make for my AW.org Friends.
Interesting though, the spin tub design stayed the same in most of the British machines. Older versions had holes all the way around the tub in layers down the can, whereas most models had the design pictured above with the group of 4 holes from top to bottom.
Here in NA we that original design with the group of 4 holes, but later had the design with a flat bottomed spin can. Another member on here has a vid with his Hoover vs. Maytag A50 in which you can see that spin can design. Here in Canada we had that flat basket design on later models but it was a PLASTIC spin tub.
My Hoover has the older style tub and it seems the British machines used that all along-even on HM stamped machines.

 

[rprochot]

Draining the Hoover Rinse-o-matic Mdl 0632

Thank you gentlemen for some great photos of this little washer. I've just replaced the seal on one of the pumps (Pump on the right in unclejohn's reply #9 above - modified copy of photo enclosed here-in with arrow). My leak is repaired using a silicone gasket maker (a messy but effective process), but I can't figure out how to drain the washer. My pump is no longer leaking, which is a good thing: but, there is no water coming out of the drain hose during the drain cycle. Can some-one guide me on the procedure and required settings for draining this unit? What is the purpose of the white leaver above the spin tub? What are the required settings for the dials? When I tried draining the wash tub, I noticed the water level in the tub going down but the drain hose was not ejecting and water. I then noticed that the spin tub filled up with water to the same level as the wash tub, at which point the drainage cycle stabilized - with still no water out of the hose. (Is there a user's manual available?)

This washer comes with a rubber mat that fits within the spin tub. What is the purpose of the mat? (I suspect it's to keep stuff out of the drain? But then this home made version of a commercial version, is just a trimmed down inner tube of a truck tire. It could be blocking drainage from within the spin tub.)

There is a lot of cavitation damage in the pump I took appart so there may be a blockage somewhere. I have no idea how this thing should work, so I don't know what to test for next, other than disassembling other components: pumps, hoses, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (I supect a clogged line some-where.)

THANK YOU kindly!

 

[vacbear58]

Several questions

This Hoovermatic is unusual in that it has two pumps for the wash tub - it is the only one I know of to offer the water recirculation feature.

To answer your questions:

Empty Wash tub
Make sure that the bent hose emerging from the back of the machine is in the sink and that the sink is free draining. Turn the "power drain" control to drain. With the machine turned on (but the impeller in the wash tub NOT running) lower the spinner lid to start it and the tub should then drain as it seems that the spinner motor is the one which empties the tub. Do not run the impeller with the wash tub lid raised while the machine is emptying our you will get wet mighty quick!

The white lever you refer to is for the automatic rinse and can also be used to fill the wash tube with water. There should be a second hose emerging from the back of the machine with a faucet connection on it. Connect this to the faucet, lift the "lever" up and to the left so that it is over the wash tub and turn on faucet until the correct water level is achieved - there should be a mark on the side of the tub. Switch off faucet and return the "lever" to its resting position.

Just as a side point, it would probably be worth running the faucet before connecting the hose so that you have hottest water possible going into the tub.

These machines are notorious for tangling the clothes so, contrary to the many videos you will see on youtube, the impeller should NOT be running when you put the clothes into the tub. Push the clothes in down the edge of the tub. It will take a 6lb load

Once the wash has completed put the clothes into the spinner. The purpose of the rubber mat is to go on top of the clothes to prevent small items such as socks being flung out of the spin can during the spinning process.

Take the bent hose and hang it over the side of the wash tub. With the right hand control set at the other position from automatic lower the lid and the soapy water extracted from the clothes can be returned to the tub to use again - it may need a little top up with both water and a little detergent.

Once the initial spin is complete, return the bent hose to the sink again making sure the sink is running freely. Swivel the white "lever" over to the right so the end of it is over the spin can. With the other hose connected to the faucet, turn on the water (if you have a mixer faucet you can regulate the temperature, starting off warm and finishing off cold) turn the rinse control to automatic and lower the spinner lid. The spinner will cycle on and off and in theory you carry on this way til the water from the bent pipe runs clear. At this point turn off the faucet and turn the rinse control to the other position and spin until the water stops coming out of the bent pipe.

Two points to note:
This automatic rinse uses a lot of water and is not particularly effective so, if you have sensitive skin you my find it better to rinse in the sink after the first spin (returning soapy water to the wash tub is complete) is complete.

The final spin can be up to four minutes long but the clothes will be very creased - more so than an automatic washer, so you may want to trade off the drying performance against the creasing of the clothes.

Al

 

[launderess]

What is the purpose of the mat?

Twofold:

Basically yes, to keep things from being flung over the top of spin basket and into the outer drum and or drain.

The other purpose of the "spin mat" is to prevent items from being abraded from contact with the rim of tub and or lid during the cycle.

Large commercial extractor operators just take a towel or some other thick/sturdy bit of fabric and cover the top of the laundry taking care to tuck the edges under.

Being as all this may the mat for my spin dryer tore apart years ago and haven't bothered since. Long as the laundry is *well* pushed down below the rim of the basket and care is taken that small items are loaded on the bottom with heavier items on top, then things should be fine.

 

[rprochot]

Draining the Hoover Rinse-o-matic Mdl 0632

Thank you very much Al and Ms Launderess for this information. The water recirculation feature seems to work well. The drain issue is puzzling. I will go put your guidelines to the test, with your notes in hand. (Maybe I'll have more success this time.) One other question: Can clothes, socks, etc. sit directly on the bottom of the spin basket? Would this not be inclined to clog the 4 drain holes located there? I recall seeing a metal grate made by Hoover in one of the videos I found on line. (See photos and video link enclosed.) This would keep items from clogging the drain, while allowing water to run freely out of the clothes. I also recall seeing a perforated grey mat sitting in the bottom of one of these spin tubs as a kid, over half a century ago. {I'm amazed at myself for remembering that. } I'm also inclined to think that without the grate (or equivalent) there is a definite possibillity of clothes tearing as a result of the suction induced by the pump. - Once again, Thank you VERY MUCH!

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[rprochot]

Spin-can Grate for Hoover Rinse-o-matic Mdl 0632

Once again thanks for all this information. FYI (and any-one else who may stumble across this site) - The grate illustrated in photos accompanying my last post may be available from Maytag as Part No. AP4960485 (Protective Cover). See image and URL attached.

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[optima]

Rinso-o-matic - Hoovermatic deluxe

loving this thread.

 

[launderess]

Hoover TT Pumps

As noted up-thread and or elsewhere (cannot recall which), the pumps on Hoover TTs of all incarnations were the weak spots. It really is wise to not let these units sit about unused for long periods of time IMHO. This seems to allow seals to dry out and for forth then the pump never is leak free (if it ever was *LOL*) again.

I take my Hoover out for an "airing" at least once every month or so for a load or two just to keep things flushed and well moistened.

Oh and watch whatever detergent/soap you use as well. My unit arrive nearly NIB/minty fresh but the pump was caked solid with powder detergent residue/soap gunk. Thankfully was able to score a NIB replacement and have a few more in my stash of NIB Hoover TT parts.

 

[launderess]

Protective Cover

That grate am all but certain is the plastic (or maybe it was made of metal in early incarnations) mat that sits on top of laundry before it is spun.

There isn't a need to block off the lower part of the spin basket as nothing could be sucked though to the pump. Well suppose something really small such as string, a cotton bud, or whatever but even with the fast revolutions of the spinner it isn't powerful enough to pull things through to the other side/down the drain.

Again the larger worry would be items flung over the top during spinning and working their way down, hence the spin basket mat.

Finally my Hoover Twin Tub arrives from CA

I won it from ebay, like maybe last March?? Here's pic 1

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[chestermikeuk]

Pumps of Hoover

Hello John it could be the suction cups in the spin / wash pump have come adrift as happend on a model I was using recently (through lack of use they had stuck and when the valve was moved it was stiff and pulled the spring out of the stuck rubber cup) , easy to solve by opening up the pump, hopefully the spring has not snapped and its an easy fix..if the cup has come adrift just sprise it back on the spring and moisten the cup to free them up!! Hope this helps.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Spin Mat

Is always useful to place on the spinning load otherwise small items can be flung over the top blocking the pump and damaging the mechanisms...likewise a towel or large item can be placed over the load and tucked down the sides as Madame Launderess has stated.

On the other hand they do make rather exceedingly good cake decorations aka Ian`s Hoover Cake.

 

[kitty]

@chestermikeuk

I should do that with the one from my maytag TT haha

 

[rprochot]

Thank you Folks! RE: Hoover Rinse-O-Matic Model 0632

Thanks for all your help. My pumps now all seem to be working.

I'm pretty sure the purpose of the grate is to keep the objects off the bottom of the spin basket so as not to block off the drain holes located there. The mats are a good idea to help keep items within the basket, or alternatively as a substitute for the metal grate (provided they are stiff enough). Considering that the machine I am currently working on (Hoover Rinse-O-Matic Model 0632)was patented in 1955, which I assume means it may have been on the market as early as '52 - '53 and possibly as late as the early '70s, this is about a 60 to 65 year old machine. Pretty spectacular for a piece of laundry equipment. They don't make them like that anymore. That's for sure!

I've had to order a new Blue Belt for the main pump assembly, and finally found one on the other side of the world. The price for the belt was quite reasonable. However the cost of postage and freight is outrageous. (But then if I were to swim or fly from Australia to British Columbia, Canada, I am sure my costs would be substantially higher yet.)

CONTRATULATIONS launderess on your eBay win. Sweet!

One again, Thanks you all! (That cake looks delicious!)

 

[twintubber]

No, that's not it at all.

"I'm pretty sure the purpose of the grate is to keep the objects off the bottom of the spin basket so as not to block off the drain holes located there".

You do not need to continue to worry about the drain holes at the bottom of the spin tub. The drain holes at the bottom of the tub do NOT get blocked in any way by the clothing.
Hoover would not have designed the machine the way they did if it did not function that way.
The spin mat is to prevent clothes from being flung out of the TOP of the spin basket due to the high spin speed.
It is designed solely to go on TOP of the spin load, and NOT at the bottom.
The clothes covering the holes at the bottom of the spin tub is completely and totally irrelevant and not a need for further concern.

 

[sesteve]

I've attached the instructions for the British version - 3314L. The mat is for the top as pointed out. Sorry about the quality but hopefully they are useful for you.

S