dirtybuck
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OK...
here's mine
here's mine
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jasonl
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I took that test a few months ago and I was pretty much in the center.
I guess that's why I don't put an -ist or -ian behind what I think I am (except Christian, and don't diss me for that).
My dishwasher needs a public option.
I guess that's why I don't put an -ist or -ian behind what I think I am (except Christian, and don't diss me for that).
My dishwasher needs a public option.
toggles,
Testing out like the rest of us is not necessarily a sign of being a well balanced anything...
Testing out like the rest of us is not necessarily a sign of being a well balanced anything...
Hunter,
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
'Round here, I don't think you otherwise even qualify for a 6σ variation from normal. Consider where, exactly, you are.
Oh, you meant 'deviant' as in 'statistical anomaly".
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But I like you, there are very few none III Quadrant folks around here, and even fewer who can articulate, cogently, their positions.
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
'Round here, I don't think you otherwise even qualify for a 6σ variation from normal. Consider where, exactly, you are.
Oh, you meant 'deviant' as in 'statistical anomaly".
))But I like you, there are very few none III Quadrant folks around here, and even fewer who can articulate, cogently, their positions.
frontaloadotmy
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Hunter,
This board is real life.........
This board is real life.........
Great fun - love the election 04 & 08 examples too.
OOh I'm cozing up the greg
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centered.
just about in the middle here
just about in the middle here
I'm more into the blue than Shane.
well....
You might be surprised, Panthera, how deviant I actually am, but I was referring to political deviance here (LOL). From what I can see on this board, I'm FAR more "right wing" (in the OLD sense of 'conservatism is the philosophy that says that people should be left alone to live their lives in peace."
In my opinion, BOTH the right and the left have been co-opted by radicalism. IN THEORY I have no issues with (say) providing medical care to everyone but in actuality I shudder at what is going to happen - I have seen NO programs administered by the United States Government that actually are terribly successful. Will we end up with a health system similar to the (American) Indian health system? And what DOES happen to all that private data the (now federalized) health system collects? How will it be used against my best interests? Etc.
I have the interesting experience of once being very leftie and realizing that in my opinion it didn't work.
I also believe that you can only have a stand that you can reason through - otherwise I would be engaging in emotional positions on items that were far too important to be swayed by emotions.
Hunter
You might be surprised, Panthera, how deviant I actually am, but I was referring to political deviance here (LOL). From what I can see on this board, I'm FAR more "right wing" (in the OLD sense of 'conservatism is the philosophy that says that people should be left alone to live their lives in peace."
In my opinion, BOTH the right and the left have been co-opted by radicalism. IN THEORY I have no issues with (say) providing medical care to everyone but in actuality I shudder at what is going to happen - I have seen NO programs administered by the United States Government that actually are terribly successful. Will we end up with a health system similar to the (American) Indian health system? And what DOES happen to all that private data the (now federalized) health system collects? How will it be used against my best interests? Etc.
I have the interesting experience of once being very leftie and realizing that in my opinion it didn't work.
I also believe that you can only have a stand that you can reason through - otherwise I would be engaging in emotional positions on items that were far too important to be swayed by emotions.
Hunter
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ahem...
Well, I seem to be following the mainstream...
Well, I seem to be following the mainstream...
another lefty liberal here...no surprise...
Hunter,
I was just teasing, really so do not need to know. You fit in here just great, so that definitely qualifies you as off the scale.
In the end, there are only two types of people.
Those who are content to let you be and those who demand you be what they tell you to be.
Over the last several years, the conservatives in America have been the ones doing the telling, not the liberals, so obviously you are going to have a tough row to how with folks who have suffered such oppression when presenting your, historically valid, view of conservatives. Peggy Noonan and Ross Douthat have both done 180s on most social positions these last years, I respect both of them, while not agreeing with them on many things.
I live in Europe, I see the results of over 100 years of public health care and compare it to the US. It works, we need to look over our very limited isolationist horizon in the US.
The US government isn't nearly as dreadful as you think and I far more trust the US government to run health care than the private insurers.
I never think through my positions, by the way, I just see what my red-nex family believe and take the diametrically opposite position. Who wants to actually waste time on rational analysis?
Anyway, I'll let it go at that, got something on the stove to be stirring.
I was just teasing, really so do not need to know. You fit in here just great, so that definitely qualifies you as off the scale.
In the end, there are only two types of people.
Those who are content to let you be and those who demand you be what they tell you to be.
Over the last several years, the conservatives in America have been the ones doing the telling, not the liberals, so obviously you are going to have a tough row to how with folks who have suffered such oppression when presenting your, historically valid, view of conservatives. Peggy Noonan and Ross Douthat have both done 180s on most social positions these last years, I respect both of them, while not agreeing with them on many things.
I live in Europe, I see the results of over 100 years of public health care and compare it to the US. It works, we need to look over our very limited isolationist horizon in the US.
The US government isn't nearly as dreadful as you think and I far more trust the US government to run health care than the private insurers.
I never think through my positions, by the way, I just see what my red-nex family believe and take the diametrically opposite position. Who wants to actually waste time on rational analysis?
Anyway, I'll let it go at that, got something on the stove to be stirring.
It was the traditional definition.
I LOVE old fashioned liberals. But the folks in the United States of America that seem to have co-opted the liberal movements are, in my mind, nothing other than facists in disguise. Under socialism, the state owns everything. Under facism, a small number of individuals own everything, but it is under the direction of the state. I see no difference to me, in my day to day life, between the two of them.
What we are close to reaching in the USA is that ultimate socialist wet dream: that which is not mandatory is forbidden.
I really don't have any concern what others do in their private lives, as long as they don't try and abrogate my freedom. I have zero issues with any way of life. (Indeed, I'm sufficiently radical that I believe that ALL unions should legally be 'civil unions' and if you want to get MARRIED you do it in the church of your choice. I also have no issues of >2 people choosing to enter into a union; said civil unions are ONLY for legal protection of assets and giving those you care about a say in your medical (and other) care if you cannot consent due to illness or injury.
As for government versus private insurers, can I choose 'neither'?
I LOVE old fashioned liberals. But the folks in the United States of America that seem to have co-opted the liberal movements are, in my mind, nothing other than facists in disguise. Under socialism, the state owns everything. Under facism, a small number of individuals own everything, but it is under the direction of the state. I see no difference to me, in my day to day life, between the two of them.
What we are close to reaching in the USA is that ultimate socialist wet dream: that which is not mandatory is forbidden.
I really don't have any concern what others do in their private lives, as long as they don't try and abrogate my freedom. I have zero issues with any way of life. (Indeed, I'm sufficiently radical that I believe that ALL unions should legally be 'civil unions' and if you want to get MARRIED you do it in the church of your choice. I also have no issues of >2 people choosing to enter into a union; said civil unions are ONLY for legal protection of assets and giving those you care about a say in your medical (and other) care if you cannot consent due to illness or injury.
As for government versus private insurers, can I choose 'neither'?
No.
You vill schoose vat ve say you will schoose, und -- you vill like it.
Ja, wohl!
That's part of the problem, Hunter. In Fort Collins which seems to be everybody's wet dream except those of us who grew up there, there is not one doctor who takes Medicaid. Medicare patients without additional insurance are limited to quack in a box or the Walgreen"s pharmacy walk/in center.
And that is it.
The rugged independent approach doesn't work in Northern Colorado.
I agree that we are drifting towards fascism, doubt that any third party can stop it. Did you ever read "The Cat who Walked through Walls" by Heinlein?
You vill schoose vat ve say you will schoose, und -- you vill like it.
Ja, wohl!
That's part of the problem, Hunter. In Fort Collins which seems to be everybody's wet dream except those of us who grew up there, there is not one doctor who takes Medicaid. Medicare patients without additional insurance are limited to quack in a box or the Walgreen"s pharmacy walk/in center.
And that is it.
The rugged independent approach doesn't work in Northern Colorado.
I agree that we are drifting towards fascism, doubt that any third party can stop it. Did you ever read "The Cat who Walked through Walls" by Heinlein?
> What we are close to reaching in the USA is that ultimate socialist wet dream: that which is not mandatory is forbidden. >
IMO the primary threat to our liberty these days are the strict constitutionalists, the "if a right isn't explicitly listed in the Constitution, then it's not a right" people. Many of most in this faction would be more than happy to see the calendars rolled back 50, 100 years or more on our civil rights. They are the culture warriors.
IMO the primary threat to our liberty these days are the strict constitutionalists, the "if a right isn't explicitly listed in the Constitution, then it's not a right" people. Many of most in this faction would be more than happy to see the calendars rolled back 50, 100 years or more on our civil rights. They are the culture warriors.
Jeff,
Um, actually, those aren't strict constitutionalists. The 1, 10 and 14th amendments are hated by Republicans because the do grant, clearly, the freedom to all things not specifically circumscribed.
A strict constitutionalist would actually support our being declared fully human.
Um, actually, those aren't strict constitutionalists. The 1, 10 and 14th amendments are hated by Republicans because the do grant, clearly, the freedom to all things not specifically circumscribed.
A strict constitutionalist would actually support our being declared fully human.
sigh,
I really, really shouldn't type without my glasses on. Sorry for the typos.
Jeff, Hunter, isn't it fascinating how similar our basic position is: Leave me be!
The question at stake, to me, at least, is: How do we achieve this?
I really, really shouldn't type without my glasses on. Sorry for the typos.
Jeff, Hunter, isn't it fascinating how similar our basic position is: Leave me be!
The question at stake, to me, at least, is: How do we achieve this?
