Thomson TX898 - No paddles in drum?
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If the LHD is for water-jets, then the RHD would be Hot Air Inlet for drying and the return could be through the circumferencial holes in the drum. Any thoughts?
My son says:
"FYI, a normal 40C "cotton" wash at 1300rpm for the Thomson TX898 takes 1hr 41min (LED display). If the "Eco" feature is selected, the cycle takes 1hr 47min."
"As for the drying function, it usually takes at least 1hr 30 min for the clothes to be as dry as the ones using the dryer in Vancouver."
My son says:
"FYI, a normal 40C "cotton" wash at 1300rpm for the Thomson TX898 takes 1hr 41min (LED display). If the "Eco" feature is selected, the cycle takes 1hr 47min."
"As for the drying function, it usually takes at least 1hr 30 min for the clothes to be as dry as the ones using the dryer in Vancouver."
Interesting! Thanks for posting the pics. How on earth do the clothes get picked up and dropped if there are no paddles? Hour and 40 min. for wash, hour and 30 min. to dry. That's quite a time commitment for a single load of laundry.
I wonder if the top-loading horizontal axis machine will ever catch on in the US? There is some talk about Whirlpool having a patent for just such a washer...
I wonder if the top-loading horizontal axis machine will ever catch on in the US? There is some talk about Whirlpool having a patent for just such a washer...
Are there no paddles on both sides of the opening? I mean more towards the top of the drum when it's open. We can't see that part of the drum on the pictures.
Very Interesting!!
Looks a very different machine than the other TL washer-dryers, like the sound of those directa jets,
Would love to see this operate with clear sides just to see if the load really does move without the larger paddles we are all used to.
Looks a very different machine than the other TL washer-dryers, like the sound of those directa jets,
Would love to see this operate with clear sides just to see if the load really does move without the larger paddles we are all used to.
hoovermatic
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This is almost exactly the same as my Hotpoint TL, just one paddle. Mine can be removed to access the trap that catches buttons and coins etc and it is quite heavy too. Unlike my previous h-axis TL, this one always returns the opening flaps to the top and the paddle is at the bottom, so it is something to do with the weight of it that allows it to do this.
Initially, I didn't even notice this lack of paddles and when I did, I thought it was most unusual. I can confirm however, that it has no detrimental effect on the washing action or effectiveness. My machine is A rated for wash performance and I am very happy with it's cleaning ability.
I share your curiosity, but, if it helps put your mind at rest, that one paddle does a top job!!
Initially, I didn't even notice this lack of paddles and when I did, I thought it was most unusual. I can confirm however, that it has no detrimental effect on the washing action or effectiveness. My machine is A rated for wash performance and I am very happy with it's cleaning ability.
I share your curiosity, but, if it helps put your mind at rest, that one paddle does a top job!!
hoovermatic
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Incidentally, the cycle times on my Hotpoint TL are terribly long. As I have said on here before, the quick wash at 30 degrees takes just over 90 mins!!!!!! When I read the cycle times in the instruction book I assumed it was a typo, until I used the programme. I find that I use the 'quick' wash for almost everything and as I am a great beleiver in the 30 degree setting and Ariel, it suits me down to the ground.
I like the look of those water inlets on the side of the drum, I don't have those!!!!
I want a GE Harmony with a glass window please
)))
I like the look of those water inlets on the side of the drum, I don't have those!!!!
I want a GE Harmony with a glass window please
)))jmirawm
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top load horizontal in U.S.
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Who is Staber Industries?
Staber Industries began re-manufacturing laundry equipment in 1976 from manufacturers such as Maytag, Whirlpool, GE, and Speed Queen. Based upon this experience, we were able to implement design improvements for a new type of clothes washer and we have patented a unique tub design that can clean more effectively than circular tubs. Staber washers have been produced in Groveport, Ohio, since 1993. <p> There are videos of the washer. Click on **how to use** scroll to the bottom of that page. <p> Available in White, Black, Ocean blue, Ruby red, and Ivy Green. <p> At some point someone shared a couple of videos here. I have two of them on my computer. I would give credit where credit is due....but Alas, I dont remember who shared them.
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monkeyward40
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yeah staber industries in ohio here where iam owns the patents to the top loading horizontal axis with the tub that is stop sign shaped so that it pulls in the soapy water to wash the clothes better then most front loaders and it uses alot less water then regular front loaders on the market.
vivalalavatrice
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E VAI!
Louis, do you see? You prompted me to open a new thread speaking about TL h-axis... here you are, somone else has though it before me! GOOD, I love EUROPEAN TOP LOADING HORIZONTAL AXIS, and if I do not wrong, you too!
Anyway, let me say something about this kind of washer as I own one (2001 Whirlpool AWT8104D), and my aunt owned one too (1972 IGNIS model***), I know them quite well.
1. LITTLE/NO PADDLES:You can't judge the paddles dimension untill you have heard the tumble sound, there may be long (1 min or more) tumble in both directions intermetted with short pauses to achieve a more gentle action on fabrics instead of a tumble action with more "energic" paddles... and the gentleness will be on fabrics in drying cylce too.
2. LONG TIME: I have already said it in some other thread, but let me repeat it, if you had to do laundry by hand you would be right to complain long cylce time, but it's the washer that do it all for you! Put clothes, add soap...swithc on! Just do it! Then if you had to come back to washer, after 30 min or after 1 h 30 min I honestly do not find any difference)) In the mean time of course your washer does not eat the laundry!!! LOL )
Long time I think it mean a more warranty of get your clothes clean rather than in a shorter cylce, my washer heaviest cycle last 2 h, but it has also cylce of 1 h and rapid cyle of 30 min, it depends on the soil level.
3 STABER: The start point to get even in USA TL h-axis; they say the exagon innner tube is better than a paddled circular tub... I disagree at all! Think to the performance of any FL you have seen in USA, and try to think if they wer TL...i mean TL h-axis... what about it!!?!? Would it be a suitable machine for US consumer?!?!?
Good bye everyone
Diomede
Louis, do you see? You prompted me to open a new thread speaking about TL h-axis... here you are, somone else has though it before me! GOOD, I love EUROPEAN TOP LOADING HORIZONTAL AXIS, and if I do not wrong, you too!
Anyway, let me say something about this kind of washer as I own one (2001 Whirlpool AWT8104D), and my aunt owned one too (1972 IGNIS model***), I know them quite well.
1. LITTLE/NO PADDLES:You can't judge the paddles dimension untill you have heard the tumble sound, there may be long (1 min or more) tumble in both directions intermetted with short pauses to achieve a more gentle action on fabrics instead of a tumble action with more "energic" paddles... and the gentleness will be on fabrics in drying cylce too.
2. LONG TIME: I have already said it in some other thread, but let me repeat it, if you had to do laundry by hand you would be right to complain long cylce time, but it's the washer that do it all for you! Put clothes, add soap...swithc on! Just do it! Then if you had to come back to washer, after 30 min or after 1 h 30 min I honestly do not find any difference
)) In the mean time of course your washer does not eat the laundry!!! LOL )Long time I think it mean a more warranty of get your clothes clean rather than in a shorter cylce, my washer heaviest cycle last 2 h, but it has also cylce of 1 h and rapid cyle of 30 min, it depends on the soil level.
3 STABER: The start point to get even in USA TL h-axis; they say the exagon innner tube is better than a paddled circular tub... I disagree at all! Think to the performance of any FL you have seen in USA, and try to think if they wer TL...i mean TL h-axis... what about it!!?!? Would it be a suitable machine for US consumer?!?!?
Good bye everyone
Diomede
Aspete , aspete, aspete ma che? Fai quello che devi fare.
I must say I am back to a top-loader for a while and the quick cycle time and ease-of-loading via a large high port (8upa, puerta, porta, door) is fabulous!
There is MUCH more lint in the dryer these days which MAY be due to rough treatment in the washer, or the much longer dryer time needed.
I must say I am back to a top-loader for a while and the quick cycle time and ease-of-loading via a large high port (8upa, puerta, porta, door) is fabulous!
There is MUCH more lint in the dryer these days which MAY be due to rough treatment in the washer, or the much longer dryer time needed.
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Very interesting; I definitely want to get back to this topic but will have to wait until tonight....
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What a fun!
Steve, you make me surprised every more!)
When I read you writing in italian I can't stop laughing... I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORCE! If you want I can give you some Italian lessons... although I find you're quite good to be a principant! LOL...
Anyway, I can say you that here agitator had been discontinued since 1950's when Zanussi with a Westinghouse license had been producing FL washers for decades.
Tumble washing system had been appreciated by Italian consumer in the follewing year, when in the 1960's twin-tubes had been discontinued and people started to purchase their first washer. Both my grandmothers purchased their first washers in the late '60. They were FL washers.
I can't imagine how you can appreciate FL, while the same system washing, with top loading machine, would not be good as well for you too.
Then concerning the long time of the cylce, you have to consider that:
- those machine in heavy duty cylce always make a prewash of 15 min at 40-45°C., followed by the main cycle and 5 rinses,with at least one inter spin and a final spin of 10-15 min at 800-1000-1200-1400-1600 rpm.
- I don't know about the HK Thomson, but here all washers have only one COLD inlet valve, so they have to increase temp, until that you have selected... the work at 220-240 V, but how long do you think they take to increase temp from 8-10°C to 90-95°C!?!?!?!?!?!? Of course if you do your heavy at 60°C it will take surely less time, and you consume less energy too!
At the end, a machine like that above, in USA, wiring at 220 V, with the second provided hot water inlet valve, will surely take not much more than 1 h to do a complete heavy cylce (without pewash)...
YOU SHOULD TRY IT))
GOODNIGHT
Diomede
Steve, you make me surprised every more!
)When I read you writing in italian I can't stop laughing... I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORCE! If you want I can give you some Italian lessons... although I find you're quite good to be a principant! LOL...
Anyway, I can say you that here agitator had been discontinued since 1950's when Zanussi with a Westinghouse license had been producing FL washers for decades.
Tumble washing system had been appreciated by Italian consumer in the follewing year, when in the 1960's twin-tubes had been discontinued and people started to purchase their first washer. Both my grandmothers purchased their first washers in the late '60. They were FL washers.
I can't imagine how you can appreciate FL, while the same system washing, with top loading machine, would not be good as well for you too.
Then concerning the long time of the cylce, you have to consider that:
- those machine in heavy duty cylce always make a prewash of 15 min at 40-45°C., followed by the main cycle and 5 rinses,with at least one inter spin and a final spin of 10-15 min at 800-1000-1200-1400-1600 rpm.
- I don't know about the HK Thomson, but here all washers have only one COLD inlet valve, so they have to increase temp, until that you have selected... the work at 220-240 V, but how long do you think they take to increase temp from 8-10°C to 90-95°C!?!?!?!?!?!? Of course if you do your heavy at 60°C it will take surely less time, and you consume less energy too!
At the end, a machine like that above, in USA, wiring at 220 V, with the second provided hot water inlet valve, will surely take not much more than 1 h to do a complete heavy cylce (without pewash)...
YOU SHOULD TRY IT
))GOODNIGHT
Diomede
