Wally World in trouble
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Consumers can buy only so much, and there are many products I don't buy, from any and all manufacturers, because I have no use for them. Products mentioned in the story ...
CoverGirl makeup, nada.
Duracell ... sometimes.
Febreeze, nope.
Crest Whitestrips, no (been using Colgate anyway)
Swiffer, no.
Gillette razors, quit that some years ago when cartridges for my Sensor handle disappeared. Not gonna get into that 5-blade ridiculousness.
vacerator
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I doubt losing
proctor & gamble will deeply hurt Wallymart. It would hurt P&G more so.
proctor & gamble will deeply hurt Wallymart. It would hurt P&G more so.
lordkenmore
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Hopes dashed
I have to admit that when I saw the thread title ("Wally World in trouble"), I hoped that it meant that the place would soon be gone, forever.
I have to admit that when I saw the thread title ("Wally World in trouble"), I hoped that it meant that the place would soon be gone, forever.
"Last year, executives at Procter & Gamble Co. were alarmed when Wal-Mart Stores Inc. stocked a European competitor right next to the company’s iconic Tide detergent. It was a barb for the consumer-products giant, which has long considered Wal-Mart’s shelves to be its most valuable retail real-estate."
Three guesses who that "European" competitor was.....
Three guesses who that "European" competitor was.....
P&G Has A Problem
Many of its products are mature if not elderly.
Consumers discovered during the economic down turn, where by necessity household budgets had to shrink, many private label and or other brands of products are as good or better than P&G's offerings. Yes, Tide is the gold standard for American laundry detergents. However many others will do the job and cost less, often much less.
Also many of P&G's brands suffer from dilution. How many varieties of Tide does P&G need? How many other things can they cram "Febreeze" technology into?
P&G was really hurt by the rollout of their non-phosphate Cascade detergent that had loyal users up in arms.
Many of its products are mature if not elderly.
Consumers discovered during the economic down turn, where by necessity household budgets had to shrink, many private label and or other brands of products are as good or better than P&G's offerings. Yes, Tide is the gold standard for American laundry detergents. However many others will do the job and cost less, often much less.
Also many of P&G's brands suffer from dilution. How many varieties of Tide does P&G need? How many other things can they cram "Febreeze" technology into?
P&G was really hurt by the rollout of their non-phosphate Cascade detergent that had loyal users up in arms.
lordkenmore
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Yes, cheaper products often will work just fine. I, myself, have used Tide a lot the last year--but only because A) I prefer unscented, and it works better than unscented versions of All or Arm & Hammer, even for my typical load that merely needs freshening, and B) reasonably good sales at one store.
But if I were willing to use scented detergents again, I'd have more choices--and more than likely, Tide would be more than I'd need. Sale price or no sale price at that one store.
Indeed, I've used cheap dish detergent a lot. Yes, the more expensive stuff probably cleans better and lasts longer. But for my usage, cheap is good--I typically only wash a few dishes at a time. I don't need to worry about 2 drops lasting for six mountains of dishes from hell.
But if I were willing to use scented detergents again, I'd have more choices--and more than likely, Tide would be more than I'd need. Sale price or no sale price at that one store.
Indeed, I've used cheap dish detergent a lot. Yes, the more expensive stuff probably cleans better and lasts longer. But for my usage, cheap is good--I typically only wash a few dishes at a time. I don't need to worry about 2 drops lasting for six mountains of dishes from hell.
lordkenmore
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I also think P&G is a little slow with some product development. One would think the more green Tide purclean should have been on the market well before now. And when they did come out with it, they came out with an apparently horrible, and also apparently fake, scent that a lot of buyers have despised.
smelly aisles in grocery etc I avoid
I used to do resets for stores esp thru the big company mentioned. I so HATE smelly fake cleaning products. One creppo,DA came into the store one time and sprayed some room deodirizer junk. to see what it smelled like. why dont people just clean up or i open windows.???
I wanted to RAH him. I dETEST smelly things. all make my nose tickle . I only usually buy UNSCENTED FREE and clear stuff. Yall must all need to, too. cause that junk is BAD for all of us.
I tell Hubby no colognes, smelly soaps, shav cream etc. I dont want to cough and sneeze.
Now for real smells plant ROSEMARY, thyme, oregano, basil, lavendar etc....make you feel great...and its EDIBLE, yum yum
THE natural stuff Oh the Walmart here does great in this small town.. No real competition
Only reason I frequent is for organic stuff.
Oh and for cooking smells fixing real garlic in BUTER real Butter.........., besides bking cinammon bread etc..
now I will jump off soapbox.. LOL
I used to do resets for stores esp thru the big company mentioned. I so HATE smelly fake cleaning products. One creppo,DA came into the store one time and sprayed some room deodirizer junk. to see what it smelled like. why dont people just clean up or i open windows.???
I wanted to RAH him. I dETEST smelly things. all make my nose tickle . I only usually buy UNSCENTED FREE and clear stuff. Yall must all need to, too. cause that junk is BAD for all of us.
I tell Hubby no colognes, smelly soaps, shav cream etc. I dont want to cough and sneeze.
Now for real smells plant ROSEMARY, thyme, oregano, basil, lavendar etc....make you feel great...and its EDIBLE, yum yum
THE natural stuff Oh the Walmart here does great in this small town.. No real competition
Only reason I frequent is for organic stuff.
Oh and for cooking smells fixing real garlic in BUTER real Butter.........., besides bking cinammon bread etc..
now I will jump off soapbox.. LOL
When the end comes for Walmart...don't laugh...who would of thought in 1976 Sears would become nearly irrelevant..it will be 'death by a thousand cuts'. Since no retailer has emerged to take them on directly, it will be by these suspects: Amazon, Dollar Stores,other online retailers, stores located in urban centers where millennials and empty nesters are moving, and customers that realize that getting 'low prices' means shopping at disgusting stores...peopleofwalmart.com, anyone? Retail is a business where there are textbook cases of once powerful companies now reduced to just memories..
It would be like Christmas if every Wal-Mart store vanished overnight. That store has done more damage to the economy and more damage the society than we know. It seems like no matter where the stores are, they're the toilet bowl of the area.
whirlcool
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A few years ago Walmart dropped some major name brands in favor of more of it's Great Value brand line up. This was especially true in their frozen foods section. What happened was instead of buying the Great Value brand, customers started going to stores where the now vanished from Walmart brands were still being sold. Walmart scurried to try to get some of those brands back into their stores, but not everyone went along with it. And Walmart lost these customers to other retailers.
You'd think Walmart management would remember that.
You'd think Walmart management would remember that.
lordkenmore
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Walmart management would remember that
Logically, yes.
But it certainly seems like in corporate America, vision does not often extend much past the current quarter...
Logically, yes.
But it certainly seems like in corporate America, vision does not often extend much past the current quarter...
ilovewindex
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Of the brands shown on Wikipedia, we use maybe 10 or 12 of them at most.... Gain, Febreeze, Cascade and Dawn being the prevelent 4.....
I didn't even know Dryel still exsisted
Walmart is ok, but I'd rather shop at Target... Just seems better
I didn't even know Dryel still exsisted
Walmart is ok, but I'd rather shop at Target... Just seems better
arbilab
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I thought you meant Disney with its child-eating alligators.
I seldom go to WallWart. They're trying, but here's a recent result:
Ditching AT&T mobile, needed a plugin-the-wall phone. There are employees milling about so I asked one a register away from electronics. He said they don't sell phones, then said try housewares-- several acres away. So I asked someone in housewares. She didn't know about phones but she knew someone in womensware who led me back to electronics and patiently pawed through inventory until we found something I could use. $35 and quite satisfied. We blessed each other as I passed her leaving. I'm NOT religious, just that glad to get out of there.
Took over an hour. My feet hurt. Out the driveway there's a Radio Shack, where I wanted to go in the first place but thought they were all closed. One last pisser.
Not at all impressed with their store brands; a little too much of the good stuff gets left out. Big fan of Kroger SBs. 10% geezer discount on top of already low prices.
So what DO we do with all the empty real estate WallWart ruined? Make mom & pop malls for all the places we used to shop before Wally ran them out of business? Legalize hiring illegals and rebuild our manufacturing base one abandoned WW at a time? Homeless shelters?
I seldom go to WallWart. They're trying, but here's a recent result:
Ditching AT&T mobile, needed a plugin-the-wall phone. There are employees milling about so I asked one a register away from electronics. He said they don't sell phones, then said try housewares-- several acres away. So I asked someone in housewares. She didn't know about phones but she knew someone in womensware who led me back to electronics and patiently pawed through inventory until we found something I could use. $35 and quite satisfied. We blessed each other as I passed her leaving. I'm NOT religious, just that glad to get out of there.
Took over an hour. My feet hurt. Out the driveway there's a Radio Shack, where I wanted to go in the first place but thought they were all closed. One last pisser.
Not at all impressed with their store brands; a little too much of the good stuff gets left out. Big fan of Kroger SBs. 10% geezer discount on top of already low prices.
So what DO we do with all the empty real estate WallWart ruined? Make mom & pop malls for all the places we used to shop before Wally ran them out of business? Legalize hiring illegals and rebuild our manufacturing base one abandoned WW at a time? Homeless shelters?
At least the story made clear the the Persil is Henkel, even if it is just the liquid which companies seem to be pushing.
Speaking of walmart in small towns, friends live in Newport, TN and the grocery store situation is dismal. They told me that when the big walmart came, the town had to sign an agreement that they would not allow any new grocery stores to be built. They are ruthless people and deserve every bad thing they have coming.
I liked the line about the "people of Walmart" liking the room deodorizer products. I will admit to loving the smell of pine oil. You mop a room with Texize pine oil cleaner and the place smelled clean.
I liked the line about the "people of Walmart" liking the room deodorizer products. I will admit to loving the smell of pine oil. You mop a room with Texize pine oil cleaner and the place smelled clean.
Funny you should say that about the town of Newport,TN having to agree to not build anymore new grocery stores... The Wal-Mart in Magog, Quebec (not far from Ogden) recently was converted to one of their 'SuperCentres' which is the Canadian version of a Wal Mart that sells grocery items including fresh meats, produce, and dairy products. I don't if this is true or just a rumour, but apparently the Wal-Mart folks were pressuring the distributors of the weekly bag of flyers to no longer include flyers from the other grocers. I did notice that there were a few weeks when some flyers seemed to be missing, but we now seem to be getting all flyers from all local stores. However, I really wouldn't put it past Wal-Mart to try something like this....
