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I have an old friend who would go ape over that '49 Willys Wagon. His dad sold theirs around 1962 and got a boring Ford wagon instead of giving the son the Willys. Damn. $225 was a great price for that Willys, even in 1970. Too bad you didn't hang onto it. It might be worth some $$$ today.
 
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Nancy! ahhhhh! That's the Jeep my dad had when I was just a 2 year old, before my sister was born. I need to find the photo of him in front of it, now - black and white, 1952.

...wow, that was in great shape and you sold it, right? Of course, we all sold our now vintage vehicles(at least many of us). Thanks for posting the photo - what a time warp.
 
I think it's the way people KNEW HOW TO DRIVE THEM! No phone use, texting--probably still applying make-up and eating, but I never saw one car stop a whole line of TEN CARS at every intersection, like I do today...!

What's more, people give themselves more of an excessive amount of inches between themselves and the cars in front of them--and so much I have a hard time stopping my car, even going at the normal sped, without wishing there was a way to catapult the front end of my car, or at least the front bumper, in front of the car in front of me who does NOT have such a long, endless hood!

Also, whatever happened to people turning left in the middle of an intersection? I often have to wait for them to turn if I want to go right--or if I voluntarily sit in the middle to make a left, they get mad...

Same goes for our left turn turn-arounds--known as Michigan U's: there used to be two lanes to turn usually left on those, but traffic gets too backed up to the turning enough, that I once drove on to the next "turn-around" just to see the same cars sitting there probably waiting for the red light they were stopped at to turn green...

-- Dave
 
I'm very late getting back to this thread, but I've since asked my father about the Riveria, and he claims that it did not have hidden headlights. So I must be remembering that from another car, although I can't imagine what... maybe a neighbor's car.

The car I learned to drive on was my mom's '73 Monte Carlo. When I was younger, I always hated that car because, despite being a pretty big car, it had almost zero rear legroom. My opinion of it became more positive once I was in the front seat and driving it. It drove pretty well for a big car, and the big-block had surprisingly good performance for the era of smog-choked engines (even if it did tend to run-on after you shut the ignition off). The first time I ever broke 100 MPH as a driver was in that car. My brother and I had been tasked to take my grandmother back to her home in Gadsden, Alabama. On the way back to Chattanooga, it was just he and I in the car, and we decided to see what it would do. There's a short stretch of I-59 that cuts through the extreme northwest corner of Georgia; back in the day there was nothing out there and the Georgia HP never bothered to patrol it, so it was well known among Chattanoogans as an informal test track. I floored it, and we got the Monte Carlo up to 110 MPH before I lost my nerve a bit and quit accelerating (although I don't think it had much left). We went that speed for a couple of miles before I noticed the engine temperature going up, and I backed off. I remember how slow 65 MPH seemed after that.
 
All 1965-69 Rivieras have hidden headlights. Those on the 1965-67 are electrically operated and those on the 1968-69 are vacuum-operated.

 

I just got my 1967 out of storage tonight and drove it back home just a few minutes ago. I used to store it in my garage but now that my garage is full of appliances, I have to rely on a friend who lives one hour away from home to store my cars! I left my 1965 Wildcat there at the same time... I wish I could use my old cars more like I used to but I just can't afford driving them often anymore. 
 
I saw a very nice '66 or '67 Riv on the Ventura Freeway yesterday. I love 'em in black with no vinyl top, this one had a modern paint job in black over very dark blue. Wouldn't be my choice but from a distance it looked all black and was without question the best looking car on the freeway. One of the best design jobs of the '60s IMO, too bad Buick can't make something that stunning today.
 
A good friend of our family..

Got tired of being outran by GTOs and 409 Chevys, so in 65 he ordered what I think was the all time sleeper car, a 65 Belvedere 1 ,2 door sedan...rubber floor mats,no radio, little taxi cab hub caps, the only option you could see was bumper guards and dealer installed bucket seats...but look on the front fenders and it said.Commando V-8...look at the hood ornament and it had stamped into it 426!..it wasnt a hemi, but the 365 horsepower top option wedge motor, backed by what was billed as the Police version of the Torqueflite transmission, follower by positive traction 3.56 rear end, with this you got extra heavy suspension, sway bars and heavy duty brakes, when it was about 3 years old a grease seal started leaking on the rear axle...one was ordered and was too small, it turned out that the rear end for the heavy duty package was a 3/4 ton Dodge truck axle, and the torsion bars and suspension were the same as a New Yorker wagon!, he ordered a Offenhouser 2x4 barrell manifold from the dealer, and then it had 2 carter afb carbs, he kept it until the late 90s, bought it for 3400 and sold it for 10,000! pretty good investment, It was geared wrong for top speed, but from about 40 to 110 it couldnt be beat, I got to drive it several times, and man was it fun, running 55 or 60 you could stomp on it, and it would lay 2 black marks in the road and you were gone!!!
 
A good friend of mine worked as an engineer for Chrysler in Detroit during the '70s. He got to know some of the guys in the dyno room and was surprised that the engine the older guys remembered most fondly was the 426 max wedge, not the hemi. The hemi breathed better at high rpm but the 426 wedge was the torque king, even a decade later they'd never seen a production engine that had more low end grunt than that. Very short gearing is classic muscle car stuff, nobody in the US really cared a lot for top end, it was all about acceleration. The short gearing means horrible economy and noise too but OMG could some of those old cars accelerate, one tickle of the pedal and zoom everything else disappears into the rear view mirror! I hate to think what that Belvedere is worth today but nice to know it got preserved, lots of sleeper muscle cars got beat up in street racing and then junked or had an ordinary engine put in when the original high performance one was blown up after too many races.
 
what do I miss about the old cars

All the above-- ditto ditto ditto and ditto:

Most of all....

color coordinated interiors- for example if you got a green interior you got a GREEN interior alright. A green steering wheel, green carpet, gree doors, green upholstery, gree roof liner, green everything...etc. I had a '69 Camaro with a black interior, but that was OK because then it was an option I chose it and GM didn't tell me I had to have it, and not everyone had a black interior back then. Car makers had neat names for their interior colors. My '73 Mustang Convertible had a "Ginger" interior. Now you get a choice of "Boring Black", "Depressing Gray" and "Bland Beige." Ugh, I am color starved. Why is it that way? Answer: Economics (as in corporate greed) For example: You don't have to have five or six colors of steering wheel on the assembly line. You just need one--basic black.

Yes! power steering that really was and power brakes that really were

One of you asked where the pillarless hardtops went. You can thank Ralph Nader for that.

A car where you could change the spark plugs without dissassembling the engine.

On my sisters '66 Mustang, she had a six cylinder (straight six??) and you could almost step into the engine compartment there was that much room around the engine. Changine the plugs took maybe ten or fifteen minutes. And that included the time to gap them.

Metal dashes, my parents had a 56 (or 58) Studebaker Hawk with a BEAUTIFUL brushed (swirled) aluminum or chrome dash. It also had floor vents which really gave nice venting.

Do you remember when cars even had chrome trim on the brake pedal and the gas pedal!! Remember when your brake pedal even said "Power Brakes" on it (I guess in case you didn't know it already, ha.)

Someone also said they wanted words back instead of stick figures. Yeah to that! I remember reading a woman went to the car dealership where she had brought her car and said something was wrong. She told them on her dash a figure of a little man with a rifle over his shoulder kept lighting up! They tried to explain, without laughing, that this meant to buckle your seatbelt up. Supposedly a true story.)

My parents traded their Hawk for a '65 Ford LTD Blue everywhere--carpet dash doors, roof liner steering wheel, etc. With nice wood trims. Really rich looking and beautiful The rear speakers were up on the roof pillars. That was cool my sister and I each had a speaker right in our ear. :) It was the QUIETEST care I think we ever had.

Remember framed glass? That's one reason my dad went with the '65 LTD over the '65 Caprice because the Caprice had gone to bare pieces of glass in the side windows. He thought that was cheap and dangerous. Of course Ford folllowed suit shortly thereafter.

Our 65 LTD had flow-through ventilation with a vent that was the length of the rear shelf below the rear wind and there was a switch for it on the drivers side of the dashboard (or dash as we called it then.)

My '69 Camaro had "Astro Ventilation" remember that?

Speaking of Chevrolet. I loved watching "Bewitched" because it was sponsored by Chevy and GM certainly took advantage to showcase their cars. Samantha and Darren always had these wonderful beautiful new Chevy cars to drive. (Darren was an advertising agent, I guess he could afford new cars every year, ha)

By the same token I also loved watching the, "Hazel" for the same reason as they were sponsered by Ford and you got to see all the new Ford models that "Mr. B" drove. My families 1965 LTD appeared in the opening credits one year and I thought that was really cool.

"Mr. Ed." was sponsored by Studebaker for awhile and it was neat to see the new models of Studebaker there, Lark, etc.

Most of all do you remember when it was FUN for the new model year to arrive. New models all came out in September. It was EXCITING to see them revealed. A few days before they were revealed they would be in the showroom windows with a canvas cover over them and on opening day the dealers where allowed to remove the cover and we would all ooh and ah at the new models. The one exception I can remember was 1964 when the Mustang was introduced by Ford in April. I was in 4th grade and that's all everyone was talking about. (Remember the Mustang jokes? for example: "How did John get hurt while he was working on his Mustang? Ans: "He tried to tighten its nuts and it kicked him.")

I am old enough to remember when Fords look like Fords, Chevy's looked like Chevy's, AMC's looked like AMC's and Chryler/Dodge ("The Dodge Rebellion wants You") also had its unique look.

Each year cars were redesigned at least cosmetically, and at least got a fashion make-up if not a downright redo. Now it's often difficult to even tell one brand from another. lol

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('Course their PROTECTION is Another Story!!!!)

Bumpers that actually help you CLIMB on top of the car! My childhood memories of the hood and trunk of the Rambler American and the hood and slanted rear deck of the Pinto are long in a scrap book, so here is my daughter on top of my Honda CiViC:

-- Dave

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