On my 11 months old washer? Bearing, shocks, belt???
WHAT is that noise?
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Sure sounds like bad main bearings, but it could be motor bearings. Good thing it happened while still under full warrenty.
Sure sounds like bad main bearings, but it could be motor bearings. Good thing it happened while still under full warrenty.
optima
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It almost sounds like a drum machine, playing a tune at distribution speed. I think it's the main drum bearings.
It almost sounds like a drum machine, playing a tune at distribution speed. I think it's the main drum bearings.
Customer service was here today and told me it's normal...
Huh???
Compare the first video to this one from August last year. No such noise here as the washer distributes!
Huh???
Compare the first video to this one from August last year. No such noise here as the washer distributes!
teknikleespekng
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When it gets up to full spin, it definitely sounds like the bearings. The machine should be quiet while its spinning. My Kenmore is quite loud at this point. When you spin the basket manually, is it making any noise? Mine does. I can feel its not "smooth".
But that shhhh shhh'ing sound before it ramps up - I dont have that. Mine is just a loud whirring.
But that shhhh shhh'ing sound before it ramps up - I dont have that. Mine is just a loud whirring.
Noisey Washer
I would take the belt off and compare the sound of just the motor at full spin speed, if you can't tell re post a video with sound of just the motor running.
I would take the belt off and compare the sound of just the motor at full spin speed, if you can't tell re post a video with sound of just the motor running.
arbilab
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NORMAL?? I bet if you called them a month later when the warranty was out they wouldn't say it's normal.
Sounds like my poor ge that only lasted 1 year. I had no belt in mine direct drive but same sound. Right now I say you have a bad Bearing. But let it go then you got bad shocks. After that then to the dump because if like here they will charge a high price to fix it.
My tip call them aging make them fix it or take it back. Ge did the same to me right after the thing was out of Warranty then they clam it was Bearinga and shocks
My tip call them aging make them fix it or take it back. Ge did the same to me right after the thing was out of Warranty then they clam it was Bearinga and shocks
brummybear
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In the drum?
Is there something that has got through the drum and is catching prehaps. My moms bra bone did a lot of damage to her washer.
Is there something that has got through the drum and is catching prehaps. My moms bra bone did a lot of damage to her washer.
Ha, that's what I thought, too. They'll say it normal now and once the warranty is over.. I have a problem. Well, the repair guy is coming back once more to change the dispenser assy, as I told him that the softener dispenser fills with some water during wash and/or rinse fills, which causes early dispensing of the softener. It's not a lot of water but *just* enough to start the syphoning before the final rinse. Maybe one to two tablespoons but still...
I'll try to make him take of the belt as I talked to other people about his and they said dry belts can be (are?) a problem with these machines. As for warranty: it's still cover until the 20th of May next year.
I'll try to make him take of the belt as I talked to other people about his and they said dry belts can be (are?) a problem with these machines. As for warranty: it's still cover until the 20th of May next year.
Noisey Washer
The warranty may still cover this problem even if it fails shortly after it expires, be sure your complaint is in writing and their response is also written. Send a registered letter to the company with copies going to the dealer, consumer protection, attorney general etc.
The problem is not likely a dry belt, I suggested that the motor be run without the belt to show whether the motor or main tub bearings is causing the noise. This is very easy to do and I would have the technician that is coming out to fix the softener dispenser do this before you sign off on any service. GOOD Luck.
The warranty may still cover this problem even if it fails shortly after it expires, be sure your complaint is in writing and their response is also written. Send a registered letter to the company with copies going to the dealer, consumer protection, attorney general etc.
The problem is not likely a dry belt, I suggested that the motor be run without the belt to show whether the motor or main tub bearings is causing the noise. This is very easy to do and I would have the technician that is coming out to fix the softener dispenser do this before you sign off on any service. GOOD Luck.
aquarius1984
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some folk are just plain nuts
Running the motor without a belt on is one of the WORST things you can do!
NEVER do it.
As the motor has no load on it it may well run at infinite speed when on a spin cycle with no drum to slow it down and provide resistance.
Electronic they may be but there is always a chance to programmer and motor are geared for some load.
We found out at a cost a few years ago whereby I nearly lost my sight from an exploding motor in a Hotpoint machine we ran without a belt attached. The Armature exploded from running at full power sending chunks of metal and ceramic towards my face. Injury may not result but you may not have much of a motor left.
Bearing tests can easily be done just by removing the belt if you REALLY need to, although its not needed.
Motor bearings can be detected by just removing the belt and turning the armature by hand. If they are rough they will soon let you know. Never run it without the belt connected!
Running the motor without a belt on is one of the WORST things you can do!
NEVER do it.
As the motor has no load on it it may well run at infinite speed when on a spin cycle with no drum to slow it down and provide resistance.
Electronic they may be but there is always a chance to programmer and motor are geared for some load.
We found out at a cost a few years ago whereby I nearly lost my sight from an exploding motor in a Hotpoint machine we ran without a belt attached. The Armature exploded from running at full power sending chunks of metal and ceramic towards my face. Injury may not result but you may not have much of a motor left.
Bearing tests can easily be done just by removing the belt if you REALLY need to, although its not needed.
Motor bearings can be detected by just removing the belt and turning the armature by hand. If they are rough they will soon let you know. Never run it without the belt connected!
aeg03
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I doubt trying the machine on distribution speed without a belt will cause any problems!
With regards to the noise, perhaps its something that will pass over time, just see how it goes perhaps? Our previous machine made a variety of different noises over the years that would come and go, a bit similar to the noise you have described in your video. Even the 'new' machine we have makes odd noises from time to time.
With regards to the noise, perhaps its something that will pass over time, just see how it goes perhaps? Our previous machine made a variety of different noises over the years that would come and go, a bit similar to the noise you have described in your video. Even the 'new' machine we have makes odd noises from time to time.
ariston4life
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sounds to me like its the motor
Running The Motor With No belt
CANNOT POSSIBLY CAUSE ANY PROBLEM and is a standard and recommended test procedure, having the belt on and turning the empty drum doesn't affect the motor speed one RPM.
I don't know what went wrong with the HP washer you were testing but the motor would have flown apart whether the belt was in place or not.
CANNOT POSSIBLY CAUSE ANY PROBLEM and is a standard and recommended test procedure, having the belt on and turning the empty drum doesn't affect the motor speed one RPM.
I don't know what went wrong with the HP washer you were testing but the motor would have flown apart whether the belt was in place or not.
Running The Motor With No belt
CANNOT POSSIBLY CAUSE ANY PROBLEM and is a standard and recommended test procedure, having the belt on and turning the empty drum doesn't affect the motor speed one RPM.
I don't know what went wrong with the HP washer you were testing but the motor would have flown apart whether the belt was in place or not.
CANNOT POSSIBLY CAUSE ANY PROBLEM and is a standard and recommended test procedure, having the belt on and turning the empty drum doesn't affect the motor speed one RPM.
I don't know what went wrong with the HP washer you were testing but the motor would have flown apart whether the belt was in place or not.
arbilab
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Inverter (quasi-3ph) motors can only run as fast as the commutation. DC motors (brushed, like my ElectroFrigiWhite) have tachometers on the motor feeding back to the controller.
If motors actually ran away to destruction in the absence of another problem like shorted controller, every time a belt broke a motor would explode and we don't hear that.
But you're right, a series DC motor with no load and no closed-loop control can overspeed to destruction. I think it would be a bad idea to design a washer that way, because an empty drum represents almost no load and could easily overspeed. But we've seen bad ideas become washer designs before.
If motors actually ran away to destruction in the absence of another problem like shorted controller, every time a belt broke a motor would explode and we don't hear that.
But you're right, a series DC motor with no load and no closed-loop control can overspeed to destruction. I think it would be a bad idea to design a washer that way, because an empty drum represents almost no load and could easily overspeed. But we've seen bad ideas become washer designs before.
Usually Series wound motors have some sort of min load built into them to prevent racing-that is the cooling fan.at normal speeds it provides the airflow to cool the motor.If it tries to overspeed the fan acts as an air governer to prevent overspeeding.Other universal motors are connected to a gearbox of some sort-this can act as a speed governor,too.(Drill or mixer motor)
