Well folks, a new Lowe's opened nearby, so I went to check out the laundry offerings. Believe it or not, I fell in love with the GE top loader I believe WHRE524, 526 or something like that. One was 26 cycles the other 17. Both with stainless steel tubs although I see a seam like a steel can inside. I got suddenly interested in GE after seeing their repair rate improve in CR and the top rated albeit pushbutton $580 dryer in febs issue like the last time they werre reviewed. I don't know if the washer is quite as good as the dryer. Just wondered what you thought. Or know. Thanks
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That ugly seam was one of the first things I saw in the stainless-steel GE machine...YUK!
GE machines are crap...bottom line. You know why the current SS and plastic tubs are ribbed? So the "shaky" wash action caused by a weak spin brake can actually help scrub your clothes!
Stay away at all costs!
GE machines are crap...bottom line. You know why the current SS and plastic tubs are ribbed? So the "shaky" wash action caused by a weak spin brake can actually help scrub your clothes!
Stay away at all costs!
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Was surfing the web and found this on what looks like a GE?? being fed to the Komar "creature"with the big auger compactor in its "mouth"Can any sharp eyed Applianceville folks confirm this is a GE machine being "krushed"?-the masonite back made me think it was a GE-was being loaded into the Krusher by a forklift-funny-forklifts seem to be feeding"forks" for Krushers.
The video is under "white Goods" in the auger compactor list.They also show other things being processed by these powerful machines.
http://www.walkupright.com/komar2/video-library.htm#compactors
Was surfing the web and found this on what looks like a GE?? being fed to the Komar "creature"with the big auger compactor in its "mouth"Can any sharp eyed Applianceville folks confirm this is a GE machine being "krushed"?-the masonite back made me think it was a GE-was being loaded into the Krusher by a forklift-funny-forklifts seem to be feeding"forks" for Krushers.
The video is under "white Goods" in the auger compactor list.They also show other things being processed by these powerful machines.
http://www.walkupright.com/komar2/video-library.htm#compactors
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It sure is a GE....note that cinderblock underneath used to balance out the suspension. Actually, it looked more like a Hotpoint.
Was the machine a "plastic" GE?Couldn't see much plastic fragments as it went thru the krusher. Watched the film clip again and indeed saw the balance weight underneath.Was wondering what it was at first.also saw a glimpse of the motor. They also show other "white Goods" processed by their devices.Would like to see the transmission-hydro motor used to turn that screw.They don't show it in the Komar site.I suppose with the lower quality machines built today-that Krusher will not go hungry.I wonder if it likes newer Maytags?
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GE Garbarge?
Well General Electric has dumped Electrolux,taking the "GE" out of "FriGeMore" and launching their own extra large front loader. Due out by this summer it will be interesting to see what they've come up with.
Funny thing though, although Electrolux made all three brands (General Electric, Kenmore and Frigidare)of front loaders, the recent 2005 CR repair ratings on front loaders had GE as requiring less than the other two. Go figure.
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Well General Electric has dumped Electrolux,taking the "GE" out of "FriGeMore" and launching their own extra large front loader. Due out by this summer it will be interesting to see what they've come up with.
Funny thing though, although Electrolux made all three brands (General Electric, Kenmore and Frigidare)of front loaders, the recent 2005 CR repair ratings on front loaders had GE as requiring less than the other two. Go figure.
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Those auger-compactors are direct descendents of an original design from 1936. Patented by Norba, in Sweden, used in European refuse-collecting vehicles from that time through the mid 1980s.
The key operating principles are a) the screw is tapered, and the pitch of the blades becomes more acute toward the output end, thereby providing volume reduction in the hopper prior to compaction in the receiving container, and b) there is a welded rod in the hopper that follows a contrary spiral to that of the screw, thereby providing something for the material to "catch" on as the auger goes to work on it.
The original Norba was driven via a mechanical transmission; it became hydraulic in the early 1960s. Other manufacturers made the system under license in their own countries, or developed their own versions (GWL "Musketeer" in the UK). These became quite popular for a time since they were able to tear through paper and plastic sacks used for household refuse storage, thereby exposing the contents for subsequent decomposition in landfills. Norba is presently a subsidiary of the Heil company (USA), if I'm not mistaken. Heil goes back to the early 1900s and has been an industry leader in waste-handling equipment in the USA since at least the 1930s.
The key operating principles are a) the screw is tapered, and the pitch of the blades becomes more acute toward the output end, thereby providing volume reduction in the hopper prior to compaction in the receiving container, and b) there is a welded rod in the hopper that follows a contrary spiral to that of the screw, thereby providing something for the material to "catch" on as the auger goes to work on it.
The original Norba was driven via a mechanical transmission; it became hydraulic in the early 1960s. Other manufacturers made the system under license in their own countries, or developed their own versions (GWL "Musketeer" in the UK). These became quite popular for a time since they were able to tear through paper and plastic sacks used for household refuse storage, thereby exposing the contents for subsequent decomposition in landfills. Norba is presently a subsidiary of the Heil company (USA), if I'm not mistaken. Heil goes back to the early 1900s and has been an industry leader in waste-handling equipment in the USA since at least the 1930s.
Auger compactor-shredder
when I was in college in the early 70's I read a magazine called "American City" in their library.-It had many adds and articles on waste handling equipment.They had several adds on a product called the "Kuka Shark" trash truck-it had an auger compactor in it.The auger was turned by a PTO from the trucks transmission-much like regular trash trucks have.The drive was mechanical and not hydrualic.Haven't seen anything elese on that truck.Kuka claimed it could handle anything put in it.
Another company makes Screw compactors-Sanitech-they too have a website-think it was Sanitech.net.The Komar machines look like they have teeth of sorts on the edges of the auger flights to catch and tear anything that gets in it.Esp like the film clip of it crushing a 55Gal drum of concrete!I suppose thats their "destruct Test" like Vita-Mix did several years ago-putting 2X4 blocks in the Vita Mix container and grinding them up.also the Komar folks have a twin and triple screw compactor-shredders-Very impressive tro see the film clip of the twin screw model crushing and tearing up a large metal box.Something interesting about the twin screw model-its discharge is from the bottom and not the side-the operator can also vary the discharge opening controlling the size of the "grind"Some also call the auger compactors --"meat grinder" type machines since they sort of work on the same way as a auger type meat grinder.Just don't have a knife and size screen.The triple screw model has the two top counterrotating augers-then the ground material drops into another that extrudes it through a dishcharge chute.Sounds like the "rod" you describe is the "breaker Bar"that allows just that-something for the auger to help break up the items as it grabs it.Same device that is in ram type compactors that is just above the ram-oversize items are broken against it by the ram.
when I was in college in the early 70's I read a magazine called "American City" in their library.-It had many adds and articles on waste handling equipment.They had several adds on a product called the "Kuka Shark" trash truck-it had an auger compactor in it.The auger was turned by a PTO from the trucks transmission-much like regular trash trucks have.The drive was mechanical and not hydrualic.Haven't seen anything elese on that truck.Kuka claimed it could handle anything put in it.
Another company makes Screw compactors-Sanitech-they too have a website-think it was Sanitech.net.The Komar machines look like they have teeth of sorts on the edges of the auger flights to catch and tear anything that gets in it.Esp like the film clip of it crushing a 55Gal drum of concrete!I suppose thats their "destruct Test" like Vita-Mix did several years ago-putting 2X4 blocks in the Vita Mix container and grinding them up.also the Komar folks have a twin and triple screw compactor-shredders-Very impressive tro see the film clip of the twin screw model crushing and tearing up a large metal box.Something interesting about the twin screw model-its discharge is from the bottom and not the side-the operator can also vary the discharge opening controlling the size of the "grind"Some also call the auger compactors --"meat grinder" type machines since they sort of work on the same way as a auger type meat grinder.Just don't have a knife and size screen.The triple screw model has the two top counterrotating augers-then the ground material drops into another that extrudes it through a dishcharge chute.Sounds like the "rod" you describe is the "breaker Bar"that allows just that-something for the auger to help break up the items as it grabs it.Same device that is in ram type compactors that is just above the ram-oversize items are broken against it by the ram.
I've thought it over-not ready for GE yet.
Well, Westy I don't know at this point what I want. I don't like crap, but My next idea is an LG. They just appeal to me, but I am a little leary of FL due to the part of the house my laundry is located (next to the bedrooms). it is a convenient place, but I don't want the machine to run over and ruin my wood floor (reaal wood) and carpet. Well, maybe it wouldn't. Just want to get away from the reliable but boring KM WP line-up for a while. Does anyone know anything about their reliability? LG that is.
Well, Westy I don't know at this point what I want. I don't like crap, but My next idea is an LG. They just appeal to me, but I am a little leary of FL due to the part of the house my laundry is located (next to the bedrooms). it is a convenient place, but I don't want the machine to run over and ruin my wood floor (reaal wood) and carpet. Well, maybe it wouldn't. Just want to get away from the reliable but boring KM WP line-up for a while. Does anyone know anything about their reliability? LG that is.
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These new models are a step up but other than a 1010 rpm spin as well as very slow hand wash agitation,the only difference is a larger stainless steel 4.0 cu ft tub.We @ HD have sold quite a few and have yet to receive any back(can't say that about the new Neptune top loaders)and heard great reviews on their(GE's) Harmony sets.
These new models are a step up but other than a 1010 rpm spin as well as very slow hand wash agitation,the only difference is a larger stainless steel 4.0 cu ft tub.We @ HD have sold quite a few and have yet to receive any back(can't say that about the new Neptune top loaders)and heard great reviews on their(GE's) Harmony sets.
Cool video! If I'm seeing the same "white goods" clip as you guys, there are three dishwashers (all GE/Hotpoint) and some other sort of cabinet with a black swinging door. No washers...
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Only complaint I've heard and our local appliance dealer has also, is LG's can take rather a long time to balance loads before spinning. This seems to happen before final spins and the units never reach full set final spin, leaving laundry wetter than desired. Most users simply reset the washer for another spin cycle.
We didn't get one because of LG's spotty repair service offerings in our area. Every seller of LG's gives you a long list of "certified" repair people in an area, but when you call them to verify it is one song and dance after another.
Only complaint I've heard and our local appliance dealer has also, is LG's can take rather a long time to balance loads before spinning. This seems to happen before final spins and the units never reach full set final spin, leaving laundry wetter than desired. Most users simply reset the washer for another spin cycle.
We didn't get one because of LG's spotty repair service offerings in our area. Every seller of LG's gives you a long list of "certified" repair people in an area, but when you call them to verify it is one song and dance after another.
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Greg: Look under the list "auger Compactors" White goods clip-that one shows the Komar compactor "Krushing" the washer.Other good ones to see-Dual Auger shredder: Metal box,white goods(the one you must have seen)telephone poles.Single auger shredder:white goods,55gal drum full of concrete,and telephone poles.Quad shear shredder: both clips on 55 gal drums,metal and plastic drums being ground in it.Two shaft shear,both clips on 55 gal drums.and lastly-the single rotor shredder:waterbed-guess that what eventually happens to those leaky waterbed matteresses!Also look under Sanitech.net: they show video clips of their compactor shredders processing things-they run a dishwasher thru one of their machines.
Greg: Look under the list "auger Compactors" White goods clip-that one shows the Komar compactor "Krushing" the washer.Other good ones to see-Dual Auger shredder: Metal box,white goods(the one you must have seen)telephone poles.Single auger shredder:white goods,55gal drum full of concrete,and telephone poles.Quad shear shredder: both clips on 55 gal drums,metal and plastic drums being ground in it.Two shaft shear,both clips on 55 gal drums.and lastly-the single rotor shredder:waterbed-guess that what eventually happens to those leaky waterbed matteresses!Also look under Sanitech.net: they show video clips of their compactor shredders processing things-they run a dishwasher thru one of their machines.
Norba Compactor
Looked on the web under Norba equipment and they didn't show any rotary or screw compactors.The trash trucks they showed had the regular "packer panel" compactors. What model used the screw compactor? One of their vehicles was very interesting-was a hybrid vehicle-the trucks engine transported the vehicle and charged a 72V battery system that ran the load and compact mechanisms.The hydro system used water instead of hydraulic fluid.The idea they had was when the truck stopped to collect a load of trash-the engine would shut off and the electric mechanism that ran off the battery bank would work instead-they claimed was more quiet,and less air pollutiuon-no need to rev the trucks engine to run the compactor.Was very innovative.
Looked on the web under Norba equipment and they didn't show any rotary or screw compactors.The trash trucks they showed had the regular "packer panel" compactors. What model used the screw compactor? One of their vehicles was very interesting-was a hybrid vehicle-the trucks engine transported the vehicle and charged a 72V battery system that ran the load and compact mechanisms.The hydro system used water instead of hydraulic fluid.The idea they had was when the truck stopped to collect a load of trash-the engine would shut off and the electric mechanism that ran off the battery bank would work instead-they claimed was more quiet,and less air pollutiuon-no need to rev the trucks engine to run the compactor.Was very innovative.
For what it's worth, when i moved into my new condo about three months ago, it came with GE profile washer/dryer. So far i really like the pair. Dryer is great -- dries fast and is extremely quiet. Sensors work well. The washer handles large loads and I especially like the auto soak.
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I have heard from a couple of coin laundry owners that the latest batch of GE toploaders are actually pretty good. GE has worked hard on making the machines more durable and dependable. I'm tempted to try them in my store, but my old GE's are going great still, regardless of the water consumption.
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David:
Don't worry about the FLs leaking all over your floor. There's actually very little water in them when they run. I was a little disappointed about this, as I had visions of major swirling and splashing. Oh, well. All in the name of the environment, right?
I LOVE my Frigidaire FLs. The washer particularly would be good for next to a bedroom as it is nearly silent when it is running.
As for anything made by GE, blecch. I replaced the GE w/d, fridge and dw in my condo as I didn't like any of them. The dishwashers seem particularly sucky. Good air conditioners, though.
And if you have the chance, make sure you stack them. When a load is done, I just shovel it out of the washer into a basket then dump the whole thing in the dryer on top. Being able to take the dry clothes out at arm level is *extremely* handy, particularly when doing permanent press.
Don't worry about the FLs leaking all over your floor. There's actually very little water in them when they run. I was a little disappointed about this, as I had visions of major swirling and splashing. Oh, well. All in the name of the environment, right?
I LOVE my Frigidaire FLs. The washer particularly would be good for next to a bedroom as it is nearly silent when it is running.
As for anything made by GE, blecch. I replaced the GE w/d, fridge and dw in my condo as I didn't like any of them. The dishwashers seem particularly sucky. Good air conditioners, though.
And if you have the chance, make sure you stack them. When a load is done, I just shovel it out of the washer into a basket then dump the whole thing in the dryer on top. Being able to take the dry clothes out at arm level is *extremely* handy, particularly when doing permanent press.
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Tolivac, Norba haven't made the rotary-screw machine for a couple of decades; they've fallen in with the trend toward intermittent compaction via the slide/sweep panel system you saw on the site. However, hybrid powertrain is a nice idea, "who says it's only for cars?" Probably saves fuel also.
Kuka originated in the 30s in Germany, first as a rotating drum with deep spiral blades, similar to a horizontal concrete mixer but with a loading aperture in a tailgate, the whole body enclosed in sheet paneling for soundproofing. In the UK, Lewin made a similar machine with sufficient differences to overcome patent issues. The Kuka Shark design was early 1960s, with a very significant difference: attached to the tailgate was a cone-shaped fixture with a spiral guide-plate around its outer circumference, the cone projecting inward into the body, and having a cutout opening at its bottom via which material was loaded. The body didn't have deep spirals any more; but instead a set of ribs at the rear of the cylindrical drum to engage the material and lift it into the drum, and a shallow spiral whose primary purpose was to assist getting the last of the load out during the discharge cycle at the landfill or transfer station.
Yes, this could and did grind up white goods admirably, along with anything else one cared to put into it. The operating principle was that as the load built up in the drum, the stationary spiral guide plate acted in the same manner as a revolving screw (the drum revolved around the screw; neat, eh?) to achieve an extraordinary degree of compression.
Best of all this one is still made today: Kuka was absorbed into the Faun organization, and you can find it on their website as the Faun Rotopress. That's a total historical lineage of nearly 70 years on the rotating-drum compactor design, and 40 years on the "Shark" principle. Simplest compactor design on the market anywhere.
By the way, the reciprocating ram with fall-back shield was also 1930s, in this case France, invented by Fernand Rey. Still used in static compactors and in continuous side-loading vehicles such as LoDal in the USA, so it now has 70+ years of history as well. In the UK this design was adopted by Shelvoke & Drewry for their Pakamatic in the 1960s, but alas, S&D are no longer in existence (I think Semat, the descendant of the Rey organization, is still around). S&D was truly the Rolls Royce of municipal vehicles, with world-class engineering & craftsmanship second to none, every machine manufactured the old way, by hand, one at a time, built-to-order.
Kuka originated in the 30s in Germany, first as a rotating drum with deep spiral blades, similar to a horizontal concrete mixer but with a loading aperture in a tailgate, the whole body enclosed in sheet paneling for soundproofing. In the UK, Lewin made a similar machine with sufficient differences to overcome patent issues. The Kuka Shark design was early 1960s, with a very significant difference: attached to the tailgate was a cone-shaped fixture with a spiral guide-plate around its outer circumference, the cone projecting inward into the body, and having a cutout opening at its bottom via which material was loaded. The body didn't have deep spirals any more; but instead a set of ribs at the rear of the cylindrical drum to engage the material and lift it into the drum, and a shallow spiral whose primary purpose was to assist getting the last of the load out during the discharge cycle at the landfill or transfer station.
Yes, this could and did grind up white goods admirably, along with anything else one cared to put into it. The operating principle was that as the load built up in the drum, the stationary spiral guide plate acted in the same manner as a revolving screw (the drum revolved around the screw; neat, eh?) to achieve an extraordinary degree of compression.
Best of all this one is still made today: Kuka was absorbed into the Faun organization, and you can find it on their website as the Faun Rotopress. That's a total historical lineage of nearly 70 years on the rotating-drum compactor design, and 40 years on the "Shark" principle. Simplest compactor design on the market anywhere.
By the way, the reciprocating ram with fall-back shield was also 1930s, in this case France, invented by Fernand Rey. Still used in static compactors and in continuous side-loading vehicles such as LoDal in the USA, so it now has 70+ years of history as well. In the UK this design was adopted by Shelvoke & Drewry for their Pakamatic in the 1960s, but alas, S&D are no longer in existence (I think Semat, the descendant of the Rey organization, is still around). S&D was truly the Rolls Royce of municipal vehicles, with world-class engineering & craftsmanship second to none, every machine manufactured the old way, by hand, one at a time, built-to-order.
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Looked up FaunRotopress on the web-was interesting from what I could see-and it was the same one that I saw in that American City magazine.A good design like that is hard to put down!Do like that its simple and works.Surprized it isn't used here.Also saw the Shelvoke and Drewry vehicles under a website called "classic refuse trucks"They showed a S&D trash vehicle called a "Revopak" that used an elliptical rotating fork that worked with a stationary one in its tailgate to shred,compact trash put in it.That would be something like a SSI "Pri-Max" stationary-portable shredder that too uses almost forklike hammers that rotate slowly against a slotted grate to shred whatever is put in it.They have filmclips that demo it on a website called "ssiworld.com"They show the PriMax shredding C&D waste,tree stumps,and even RR ties.The SSI machine has either an electric powerpak,or a deisel one for portable use.A recycling company out my way has one-they used it in part of the Floyd cleanup.they are either single shaft models or a twin shaft version-the shredder shafts are turned by a hydraulic motor.Sometime I should see if the recycler out here will let me see their SSi machine.Our agency does business with them!
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Looked up FaunRotopress on the web-was interesting from what I could see-and it was the same one that I saw in that American City magazine.A good design like that is hard to put down!Do like that its simple and works.Surprized it isn't used here.Also saw the Shelvoke and Drewry vehicles under a website called "classic refuse trucks"They showed a S&D trash vehicle called a "Revopak" that used an elliptical rotating fork that worked with a stationary one in its tailgate to shred,compact trash put in it.That would be something like a SSI "Pri-Max" stationary-portable shredder that too uses almost forklike hammers that rotate slowly against a slotted grate to shred whatever is put in it.They have filmclips that demo it on a website called "ssiworld.com"They show the PriMax shredding C&D waste,tree stumps,and even RR ties.The SSI machine has either an electric powerpak,or a deisel one for portable use.A recycling company out my way has one-they used it in part of the Floyd cleanup.they are either single shaft models or a twin shaft version-the shredder shafts are turned by a hydraulic motor.Sometime I should see if the recycler out here will let me see their SSi machine.Our agency does business with them!
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Hi Peter, are you currently using the pre-1995 GE top-loaders in your laundromats?
Auger/Shredders
Fascinating... I did see the Hotpoint washer going into the single auger now, a pleasant sight given that I must see more of those machines in the junk pile than any other brand/style. Given their due, those 'black-panel' Hotpoints were reliable machines for a budget price.
Fascinating... I did see the Hotpoint washer going into the single auger now, a pleasant sight given that I must see more of those machines in the junk pile than any other brand/style. Given their due, those 'black-panel' Hotpoints were reliable machines for a budget price.
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Tolivac, the Revopak system was also a Fernand Rey invention adopted by S&D (Dennis (UK) borrowed heavily from Ochsner (Switzerland), by the way). The point of the tines or teeth was to exert enormous point-pressure to break up large objects in the hopper, and the intermeshing of the moving teeth with the stationary ones at the exit point from hopper into storage body, was simply a means of retaining load in the body (i.e. not for additional grinding action, though the Pakamatic did use stationary teeth for that purpose; subtle but effective design).
This stuff I know via a design project for some recycling equipment many years ago. Feels like yesterday
. Now I'm on the "eco-domestica" track for a while, with water & electricity in particular, which is what got me here. And in my day job I build telecommuter infrastructure, which saves the time- and fuel-wastage of physical commuting. Latest case is a client who normally drives 1 hr 10 minutes *each way.* No longer...!
BTW, re. Hotpoint: I just repaired one last week, as a side-effect of hanging out around here. I'd have to guess it was an early 1980s machine.
This stuff I know via a design project for some recycling equipment many years ago. Feels like yesterday
. Now I'm on the "eco-domestica" track for a while, with water & electricity in particular, which is what got me here. And in my day job I build telecommuter infrastructure, which saves the time- and fuel-wastage of physical commuting. Latest case is a client who normally drives 1 hr 10 minutes *each way.* No longer...!BTW, re. Hotpoint: I just repaired one last week, as a side-effect of hanging out around here. I'd have to guess it was an early 1980s machine.
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david-is this enough of an answer?
This thread started out with you asking about GE washers and ends with a huge technical discussion of Krushers. I an LMAO because I think this pretty much settles what everyone on this board thinks of GE top load washers. I think even the Frigidaire top loaders get more respect around here.
The other thing that makes me wonder- In the 2001 GE appliance catalog, the TOL GE Washer & Dryer came with a 10 year full warranty. I wonder how they made out on that?
This thread started out with you asking about GE washers and ends with a huge technical discussion of Krushers. I an LMAO because I think this pretty much settles what everyone on this board thinks of GE top load washers. I think even the Frigidaire top loaders get more respect around here.
The other thing that makes me wonder- In the 2001 GE appliance catalog, the TOL GE Washer & Dryer came with a 10 year full warranty. I wonder how they made out on that?
Krushers,GE washers,commuting
I got interested in the "Krushers" when they were brought out on this site much earlier.So I looked them up.I used one(Marathon Ram-Jet) at the other workplace I worked at.Had a 15Hp powerpak.They too,also make an auger compactor-goes under the name "Aug-Jet"Has an auger as well as a conventional ram.From what I saw on the CRT site-they had mentionedabout the additional grinding action of the RevoPak-I could see how the forked ram could exert more force on something-much like the digging teeth on a backhoe bucket.The CRT site mentioned the moving forked blade worked thru a stationary forked one.
On commuting I used to live in Wash DC area-where the other plant I worked at in downtown DC.Had to be there though since I did equipment maintenance.Commuted by subway-or by train using my car to get to the train or subway stop-depended on what shift I worked.Some of my collegues there commuted 3HRS each way just to be away from downtown.
I really liked the OLDER GE laundry products-esp the "Filter Flo" washers-they were so cool and -effective.esp the "Mini-basket" attachment. Just so sad their product has turned to Krusher food.Same with some of Maytag.At this point will only buy the vintage products of those brands.I did have a GE washer that had the lint trap on the outside edge of the tub and a Roto-swirl like agitator. It did work pretty well.Used it as a trade in towards a KN machine.
I got interested in the "Krushers" when they were brought out on this site much earlier.So I looked them up.I used one(Marathon Ram-Jet) at the other workplace I worked at.Had a 15Hp powerpak.They too,also make an auger compactor-goes under the name "Aug-Jet"Has an auger as well as a conventional ram.From what I saw on the CRT site-they had mentionedabout the additional grinding action of the RevoPak-I could see how the forked ram could exert more force on something-much like the digging teeth on a backhoe bucket.The CRT site mentioned the moving forked blade worked thru a stationary forked one.
On commuting I used to live in Wash DC area-where the other plant I worked at in downtown DC.Had to be there though since I did equipment maintenance.Commuted by subway-or by train using my car to get to the train or subway stop-depended on what shift I worked.Some of my collegues there commuted 3HRS each way just to be away from downtown.
I really liked the OLDER GE laundry products-esp the "Filter Flo" washers-they were so cool and -effective.esp the "Mini-basket" attachment. Just so sad their product has turned to Krusher food.Same with some of Maytag.At this point will only buy the vintage products of those brands.I did have a GE washer that had the lint trap on the outside edge of the tub and a Roto-swirl like agitator. It did work pretty well.Used it as a trade in towards a KN machine.
pcm-is this enough of an answer-well, yeah!
Its good to hear from all the folks in the club. I know its tough to stay on the subject-on the super disussomat we went from a beautiful kithcen to pressure cookers-I take blame for that one. Its fun reading all the threads and comments. Well, GE maybe turning itself around a little, but I am still a little leary of there quality. OBTW I have a GE Nautilus DW in bisque. Nearly 1 year in use, I must say its fine for a budget to middle machine, not particularly quiet, doesn't clean as well as my old whirlpool from the other house, but its ok. I have to watch putting things too large in the top rack as there is a spray arm protruding down from the top of the tub. The thing that stumps me the most is the GE, whirlpool, and a Maytag I used at my last job can't seem to dry the dishes thoroughly. The top rack is still damp much of the time. With the heat setting. I wonder if the element wattage has been reduced from what they were years ago when you could burn yourself taking a hot freshly dried dish or glass out of those old machines? I think modern dishwashers'drying ability is not as good as it once was.
Its good to hear from all the folks in the club. I know its tough to stay on the subject-on the super disussomat we went from a beautiful kithcen to pressure cookers-I take blame for that one. Its fun reading all the threads and comments. Well, GE maybe turning itself around a little, but I am still a little leary of there quality. OBTW I have a GE Nautilus DW in bisque. Nearly 1 year in use, I must say its fine for a budget to middle machine, not particularly quiet, doesn't clean as well as my old whirlpool from the other house, but its ok. I have to watch putting things too large in the top rack as there is a spray arm protruding down from the top of the tub. The thing that stumps me the most is the GE, whirlpool, and a Maytag I used at my last job can't seem to dry the dishes thoroughly. The top rack is still damp much of the time. With the heat setting. I wonder if the element wattage has been reduced from what they were years ago when you could burn yourself taking a hot freshly dried dish or glass out of those old machines? I think modern dishwashers'drying ability is not as good as it once was.
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Here is what CR had to say. I was surprised to see the Maytag Neptune TL to be on the top of the list. They must not consider tangled, mangled clothes as one of the categories.
http://www.chachp.com/images/washerratings.pdf
Here is what CR had to say. I was surprised to see the Maytag Neptune TL to be on the top of the list. They must not consider tangled, mangled clothes as one of the categories.
http://www.chachp.com/images/washerratings.pdf
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Tolivac, "CRT": seems like historic-interest industrial machinery geeks are turning up in all kinds of fields. Good trend.
GE: I think we had a GE when I was a very little kid (mid to late 60s). I remember clearly that it had one of those filter-flo attachments that went atop the agitator and turned the lint into little balls of fuzz similar to cotton puffs that were easily removed (I was too young to get the mischievous idea of throwing them at the wall to see if they'd stick!. I thought that was clever, and also the mixing of the detergent with incoming water in the filter-flo device was quite clever. First time I saw a washer without that attachment, I thought it had gone missing, or the design was flawed if they hadn't included it.
From what I recall, that mid-60s GE always seemed to work well enough, there weren't any complaints, and it ran fairly quietly including the spin cycle. I don't recall it ever making loud banging noises so it apparently didn't offbalance much, or my mom was good at keeping the load even. I don't think we ever replaced it; eventually we moved and there was something else at the new place which I don't have a clear memory of at this point.
Interesting how these memories work. I also recall our early Frigidaire fridge but not the one that replaced it. And same case for our Whirlpool dishwasher, which was one of those that the developers installed in large numbers.
GE: I think we had a GE when I was a very little kid (mid to late 60s). I remember clearly that it had one of those filter-flo attachments that went atop the agitator and turned the lint into little balls of fuzz similar to cotton puffs that were easily removed (I was too young to get the mischievous idea of throwing them at the wall to see if they'd stick!
. I thought that was clever, and also the mixing of the detergent with incoming water in the filter-flo device was quite clever. First time I saw a washer without that attachment, I thought it had gone missing, or the design was flawed if they hadn't included it.From what I recall, that mid-60s GE always seemed to work well enough, there weren't any complaints, and it ran fairly quietly including the spin cycle. I don't recall it ever making loud banging noises so it apparently didn't offbalance much, or my mom was good at keeping the load even. I don't think we ever replaced it; eventually we moved and there was something else at the new place which I don't have a clear memory of at this point.
Interesting how these memories work. I also recall our early Frigidaire fridge but not the one that replaced it. And same case for our Whirlpool dishwasher, which was one of those that the developers installed in large numbers.
Designgeek:I found the Classic Refuse Trucks site while looking up info and doco on the vehicles as we were talking about them in these entries.Even remembered some of them---Thought of the "Roto-Press" vehicles-sounds like when you were emptying the truck at the dump or landfill-the waste was ground again during the dumping process as it went thru the screw mechanism again-think it would be mulch at that point.
On the TL Neptune-would be interesting to see the relibility factor of these machines as more go into use out there.Will they last or be food for those hungry "Krushers"?could those be added to their diet.I don't think I will buy one.-Don't want to find out the hard and expensive way.
On the TL Neptune-would be interesting to see the relibility factor of these machines as more go into use out there.Will they last or be food for those hungry "Krushers"?could those be added to their diet.I don't think I will buy one.-Don't want to find out the hard and expensive way.
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Tolivac, the rear tailgate on the Rotopress opens at the top in the conventional manner, thereby getting the feed cone/screw out of the way, so the load just comes out through an unobstructed opening. These will probably eventually become popular in the USA for collecting recyclable paper and for collecting compostable yard wastes in suburbs. One wouldn't use them for grinding up refrigerators, since that would enable CFCs to leak into the atmosphere.
Next time I have a design project for recycling hardware I'll go look up your CRT site there. I have one more invention for that industry from my 1983 design project, which is a partitioned container system that no one else has gotten before or since. Hmm...
Back to GE here: GE dryer, GTR-11-AAP, with a persistent intermittent squeak. It may be that the felt bearing is breaking down. In which case, how difficult is that to replace? And what's the best way for getting the whole thing apart to do it, after getting the top off? Does the drum have to be removed, and does the heater have to come out in order to do that? Or should it be taken in to an appliance service center to have a pro do it?
Next time I have a design project for recycling hardware I'll go look up your CRT site there. I have one more invention for that industry from my 1983 design project, which is a partitioned container system that no one else has gotten before or since. Hmm...
Back to GE here: GE dryer, GTR-11-AAP, with a persistent intermittent squeak. It may be that the felt bearing is breaking down. In which case, how difficult is that to replace? And what's the best way for getting the whole thing apart to do it, after getting the top off? Does the drum have to be removed, and does the heater have to come out in order to do that? Or should it be taken in to an appliance service center to have a pro do it?
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Yes-thats a point-one cannot throw fridges,ACs or other things containing CFC's into grinders,shredders and compactors unless they have been "vampired"the refrigerant collected from them and not released into the atmosphere.I was wondereing about the screw-cone mechanism on the tailgate-that is then raised with the tailgate.So--the debris isn't ground twice after all.It makes sense to use it for paper,cardboard and such-make it easier for the hydrapulper at the pulp recycling plant.Less work for that to do.The big peices of paper and cardboard would be broken up by the Rotopress.That also sounds like a good idea to use the Rotopress to collect and shred yard waste.Could eliminate the noisey houshold(and dangerous)gas powered shredders for that purpose-Wish it would make a stop at my house-got LOTS of that for it-the icestorm several days ago "pruned" several of my trees.Could also eliminate the need for the "tub shredder" at the landfill or recycler plant to grind the waste as well.
Come to think of it-my GE dryer is starting to make squealing noises---could it be the drum idler wheels as well?Thought those could make squeaky noises as their bearings wear.Seems like any GE dryer makes some sort of squeals as they run.Another thought for that Rotopress-could someone use it to collect "confedential" materials with it and use it to shred them so thay cannot be used or read.There are seervices that use "Shredder" trucks for that purpose-a company --Shred-Tech makes them.I wonder if the RotoPress could shred the material enough for that prupose as well.Maybe we should be sales agents for them??
Yes-thats a point-one cannot throw fridges,ACs or other things containing CFC's into grinders,shredders and compactors unless they have been "vampired"the refrigerant collected from them and not released into the atmosphere.I was wondereing about the screw-cone mechanism on the tailgate-that is then raised with the tailgate.So--the debris isn't ground twice after all.It makes sense to use it for paper,cardboard and such-make it easier for the hydrapulper at the pulp recycling plant.Less work for that to do.The big peices of paper and cardboard would be broken up by the Rotopress.That also sounds like a good idea to use the Rotopress to collect and shred yard waste.Could eliminate the noisey houshold(and dangerous)gas powered shredders for that purpose-Wish it would make a stop at my house-got LOTS of that for it-the icestorm several days ago "pruned" several of my trees.Could also eliminate the need for the "tub shredder" at the landfill or recycler plant to grind the waste as well.
Come to think of it-my GE dryer is starting to make squealing noises---could it be the drum idler wheels as well?Thought those could make squeaky noises as their bearings wear.Seems like any GE dryer makes some sort of squeals as they run.Another thought for that Rotopress-could someone use it to collect "confedential" materials with it and use it to shred them so thay cannot be used or read.There are seervices that use "Shredder" trucks for that purpose-a company --Shred-Tech makes them.I wonder if the RotoPress could shred the material enough for that prupose as well.Maybe we should be sales agents for them??
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