What will the Bosch do with this

[parunner58]

I know this is not a "Bob Load" but I reheated some lasagna tonight and did not want to let this sit too long or wash it by hand. I am running the Bosch on the "Power Scrub Plus" cycle. I started it at 5:30 Eastern time and will see what time the cycle ends and how well it cleaned the dish.

 

[parunner58]

Here it is ready to be washed

 

[frigilux]

Wow, that really looks burned on. That would be the ultimate challenge for any dishwasher. Looking forward to seeing the results! Thanks for posting this interesting DW challenge.

 

[nmaineman36]

Oh that is a challenge for any dishwasher to handle. Now what detergent are you using? I think that the Cascade w/Dawn pac would clean that or even Electrosol Tabs.

 

[parunner58]

ok the cycle took 112 minutes to complete and the results were better than I thought they would be. I used Cascade Complete powder.

 

[appnut]

hmm. Mike, is your Bosch just slightly old enough that the first pre-wash on Power Scrub Plus is also heated, to about 135 degrees?

 

[frigilux]

Well, hats off to your Bosch. That casserole came out better than I thought it would! Cascade Complete is a topnotch detergent, too.

 

[maytagbear]

Wow!

That's amazing. I am seriously impressed.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[parunner58]

Bob,

The Bosch is only 5 months old. Next time I may dump some Cascade on the door, since it only has one detergent cup. I had told you I asked Bosch about a cycle sequence time chart and they never sent one.

I used a wet ScotchBrite sponge and the remaing stuff came right out.

 

[toggleswitch]

Lye oven cleaner (Easy-off) or Dawn power-dissolver makes a great pre-wash!

(ducks and runs)

 

[appnut]

Mike, I agree with you about puting some detergent on the door for the prewash for something that gunked. In teh manuals I as able to locate for teh model I believe I remember you have, it states in the text of Bosch DW Features, POwer Scrub Plus has a 125 degree heat prewash. I'd even try not running hot water before this aprticular cycle so the4 prwash is extended that much longer.

I was impressed the rest just came right out.

I know gansky used to put detergent on the door of his Asko when he had a erally dirty load of dishes. I bet some other do too here who have Bosch or other Euro-styled brands. I know I would.

 

[re563]

I have the same bosch. The very first water change is a soil purge on the PowerScrub and Regular wash cycle. So you might have to open the door to get a prewash, rather than a prerinse. I love mine, and now that I have my house on the market, I don't want to let it go. Will just have to buy a new one for the new house, providing it doesn't alreay have a great machine in there.

 

[appnut]

What's the purpose of a soil purge? sensing the degree of soil?

 

[maytagbear]

Bob-

Yes, a soil purge is where the sensor senses how dirty a particular load might be. Sensors have improved, but they're not infallible. Yet.

It goes by water turbidity (small and microscopic particles suspended in the water.)

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[logixx]

Soil sensing

A vid (animation) of Miele's soil sensing.

Alex

http://www1.miele.de/media/haushalt/video/Autosensor_DSL.wmv

 

[logixx]

More...

Mike,

I'm AMAZED by the results! I love those BSH machines.

Currently, we have a (dysfunctional) AEG dishwasher - but since Electrolux decided to close the German AEG/Electrolux factory and move everything to Poland, I'll never buy another of their products because:

A) I don't wanna support a company that causes even more unemployment in GER (although that's hard to do these days, since many companies are moving or have moved to Poland, Italy, Spain, ...). BTW: don't mean to offend any members from Italy, Spain and so forth - I just prefer Made in Germany - even if it's more expensive.

B) our Electrolux dryer broke down after only three years X-(

Bottom-line: no more Electrolux for me!

Okay - I'm feelin' better now ;D Sorry for taking this off-topic; let's get back to Bosch!

We'll be replacing the AEG with a Siemens dishwasher because over the past few years, Bosch/Siemens DW's have always received top ratings in our German consumer magazine Stiftung Warentest ("foundation product test"). Last time they tested dishwashers, July 2006, a BSH machine even ranked higher than Miele. Basically, because Bosch's Intensive cycle used less water and energy (15 liters/1.38 kWh) than the Miele's (19 liters/1.69 kWh).
Additionally, Miele demanded two detergent tabs to be used in the Intensive cycle - Bosch only one.
Also, Bosch's soil sensor worked a little better (more accurately) than Miele's.

So... long story short: I'm sooo looking forward to our new Siemens dishwasher - it's really feature-packed. ;D

And since we're on the topic of extreme soiling, I'm gonna attach a pic of the DW test I just mentioned.

First one shows "regular soiling" according to some EU norm for dishwasher cleanability tests (upper rack of an AEG dishwasher). Second picture shows the kind of soiling Stiftung Warentest uses to judge the effectiveness of the Intensive cycles.

 

[logixx]

and finally...

This will be our new dishwasher (we'll have the Siemens version of it). Click on "AquaSensor" to view Bosch's video of its soil sensig process. "VarioFlex-Korbsystem" is another interesting one.

Take care,
Alex

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[chestermikeuk]

siemens

Hi Mike

Heavy test for the machine and what a fab job given the degree of soiling...

I've had the Siemens Integrated version of this machine for 5 yrs and never fails me by its efficiency....I use the pots n pans intensive for all the range parts and cooker hood grease filters , and cleans superbly every time, I always place a little powder on the door every time, and on these machines all programmes except glassware have auto pre-wash...

If you have a lot of glassware the extra glass racks are a must , enables you to wash long stemmed glasses on the base rack and tumblers short stems on top...with a few grains of powder and 35d glass wash, perfect results...

Mike

 

[lavamat_jon]

Those Bosch dishwashers are sure workhorses... we were going to get an integrated Neff dishwasher, but the Miele won over only because it was £50 more and with that extra £50 came with a cutlery tray and the extra 5 years free warranty... but you definitely can't beat those BSH machines!

My grandma has a Neff dishwasher which is 5 years old now - only 3 basic programmes and semi integrated, but it always does a great job on the normal 65*C programme (she doesn't have intensive). Lovely noises... recirculates as it fills and pumps out love the noises dishwashers make when they do that - our Miele doesn't unfortunately :-( - and you can't beat that sliding detergent dispenser! Racks are very flexible too... I like the newer revisions that have the split cutlery basket which offers even more flexibility.

Jon