I've been trying to find Ariel detergent for High Efficiency washers and can't find it! I was told by a P&G rep that it's in Hispanic grocery stores. I've checked the ones here in the Carolinas, but they only stock the regular Ariel. Any suggestions?
Where to find ARIEL HE?
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It's quite elusive.
I've been unable to spot it locally here in the SF Bay Area. I undertstand it might have been available at some point in the LA-San Diego area, but I have no further info on that.
Last year I was able to locate a Mexican distributor who was willing to ship here, but the quantity and price was a bit off-putting. Sorry, I don't have a name but a little work with Google might unearth the source.
I've been unable to spot it locally here in the SF Bay Area. I undertstand it might have been available at some point in the LA-San Diego area, but I have no further info on that.
Last year I was able to locate a Mexican distributor who was willing to ship here, but the quantity and price was a bit off-putting. Sorry, I don't have a name but a little work with Google might unearth the source.
mich
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If I tell you...
Would you promise not to raid the entire detergent section?
Seriously.. I wanna go back sometime, and eventually stock up..
Would you promise not to raid the entire detergent section?
Seriously.. I wanna go back sometime, and eventually stock up..
kenmoreguy89
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The mexican, LOW FOAM version of Ariel, for Front loaders, was (and think still is) called "Ariel Bajaespuma".....try to look for it with that name.... in Mexico they just don't have the silly "HE- concept" as in USA....
kenmoreguy89
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https://www.ariel.com.mx/productos/ariel-doble-poder-matic-baja-espumaThat's what you look for.
thor
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Ariel Baja Espuma
Locally there are a couple of variations of powder Ariel. The Baja Espuma types (or "Matic") are one for regular laundry, then there is another one for whites (which I cannot find in the Ariel site), and the last one with softner (which I have never tried). Ariel is my workhorse detergent of choice.
Emilio
Buenos Aires
http://https//arielargentina.com.ar/productos/ariel-matic-baja-espuma
Locally there are a couple of variations of powder Ariel. The Baja Espuma types (or "Matic") are one for regular laundry, then there is another one for whites (which I cannot find in the Ariel site), and the last one with softner (which I have never tried). Ariel is my workhorse detergent of choice.
Emilio
Buenos Aires
http://https//arielargentina.com.ar/productos/ariel-matic-baja-espuma
thor
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New Link
Sorry, the link I copied in the previous mail doesn't seem to work. The Ariel versión for white laundry is called "Oxianillos" (or Oxyrings).
http://https//arielargentina.com.ar/productos/ariel-matic-baja-espuma
Sorry, the link I copied in the previous mail doesn't seem to work. The Ariel versión for white laundry is called "Oxianillos" (or Oxyrings).
http://https//arielargentina.com.ar/productos/ariel-matic-baja-espuma
kenmoreguy89
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Actually I thought and stll think that the Ariel Oxyanillos (now changed to oxy esferas or somethng like that) was the regular Ariel good for all the laundry! As they states in packages also.....not just for "whites".....I use it in all my laundry and get wonderful results!
P.S
Both the link does not work for me.....
P.S
Both the link does not work for me.....
kenmoreguy89
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No wait, it's Oxy Azul...with Micro esferas (micro spheres).....
Never been able to find it...
I live in San Diego. We have a variety of large and small Mexican grocery stores and supermarkets and I look for Ariel Bajaespuma every time I'm shopping. I also travel extensively inside and outside the US...never seen it on my travels either.
All the various Ariel packages reference using it for front loaders but it is very elusive.
Bob
I live in San Diego. We have a variety of large and small Mexican grocery stores and supermarkets and I look for Ariel Bajaespuma every time I'm shopping. I also travel extensively inside and outside the US...never seen it on my travels either.
All the various Ariel packages reference using it for front loaders but it is very elusive.
Bob
Ariel HE
Ariel is the UK's TOL P&G Laundry Detergent. ALL of our washers are HE (they have always been the front load style - we almost completely bypassed TL machines, so much so - our washers are just washers, we don't use the HE term. Very very few (I'm one of the few
) who have a TL machine.
If you work out the cost of product and shipping to get Ariel from the UK to you, I will gladly ship you some, don't want any profit from it, I go to the store anyway.
Ariel is the UK's TOL P&G Laundry Detergent. ALL of our washers are HE (they have always been the front load style - we almost completely bypassed TL machines, so much so - our washers are just washers, we don't use the HE term. Very very few (I'm one of the few
) who have a TL machine. If you work out the cost of product and shipping to get Ariel from the UK to you, I will gladly ship you some, don't want any profit from it, I go to the store anyway.
Brit store
Or there is this place (linked below) they sell UK detergents (and as said all our machines are HE, so automatically all our detergents are).
I don't know how economical it will be for you, but worth a shot.
I use a similar facility to get Tide shipped over here, as we lost that from our market many years ago
http://www.britstore.co.uk/HomeCare-Laundry/c542_796/index.html
Or there is this place (linked below) they sell UK detergents (and as said all our machines are HE, so automatically all our detergents are).
I don't know how economical it will be for you, but worth a shot.
I use a similar facility to get Tide shipped over here, as we lost that from our market many years ago
http://www.britstore.co.uk/HomeCare-Laundry/c542_796/index.html
kenmoreguy89
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Llamy...your speech is so uncorrect, for too many reasons....
mich
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Ollies here...
Has Ariel Style & Color in Liquid & Powder, and not only does it smell Amazing, it's low sudsing and does a outstanding job in my FL.
It's the 2x Concentrated stuff, and comes with a nice dosing scoop.
I also know of a place that carries Ariel Bajaespuma, but um... they also stock Phosphate'd Cascade, and I haven't had the chance to buy them out yet
Has Ariel Style & Color in Liquid & Powder, and not only does it smell Amazing, it's low sudsing and does a outstanding job in my FL.
It's the 2x Concentrated stuff, and comes with a nice dosing scoop.
I also know of a place that carries Ariel Bajaespuma, but um... they also stock Phosphate'd Cascade, and I haven't had the chance to buy them out yet
kenmoreguy89
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Yes I meant incorrect, that's how it's spelled correctly, sorry for the typo...
Starting wth saying that not ALL as you menton are front loader in europe, and what happened here is not a matter of "bypassation", and that there're absolutely not HE machines in europe but there're the Classes and other classifications...
In Europe there is not the HE concept (which is just a marketing strategy) , like there is not in other countries, even in the ones where there was a majority of top loaders historically and where other kinds of machnes and so front loaders are now sold...
HE is just a marketing strategy brought up in the USA to entice people buying new types of machines claimed to be better and money saver than others, the appealing name given: "high efficiency" makes people think at something better, better performing (not absolutely true)...so this elusive conceptual "trick" made the job over there, "tricking" lots of people with this concept and play on words...we've to remember front loader washers always existed in the USA but would not be HE...
Exist also HE machines that are Top loader and types of HE machines in which even regular powders could be used safely... as there're Front loaders that are non-HE... HE does not automatically translates in front loader...true, most of HE machines requires low-foam detergents like front loaders do...they had to put HE symbol in detergents since people are dumb so they did put this mark on low foam ones to say they're the ones good for the most of HE machines requiring low-foam products....thing that of course didn't happen in countries where the HE concept does not exist....and where they can just realize theirself where low foam is required, where is not...which is not so difficult matter...but for americans switichng to HE looks it is...not that the thing surprise me...
There is also the speech about Ariel bajaespuma very possibily not paragonable to the European or british version for istance, which yes is low foam like almost all the powders for automatics in europe (being the front loader kind more common) ....but likely not the same as the mexican bajaespuma one...like on the other hand the regular mexican one is totally different from the "handwash/twin tub/toploader agitator kind" sold in Europe....
We've to note as same brands sold over the world changes totally, the (low foam) tide you find in serbia for example is totally different of one sold in the USA...
May also be that is not the original mexican one we're talking about but maybe a new form of the now "Americanized" Ariel products line, called: "Ariel USA (product they're now carrying packed and manufactured on purpose for american market since great success of the mexican product in the USA) for which they could now sell and make even a (low foam) "HE" labelled version meant to be sold so on the american market with the HE logo infact..
I think more similar if not identical to the mexican ariel formulas instead than the european one...
But you'll never find the HE logo in one of the original mexican ones....nor the products will be the same or similar to the european ones... I can tell this for sure!
Starting wth saying that not ALL as you menton are front loader in europe, and what happened here is not a matter of "bypassation", and that there're absolutely not HE machines in europe but there're the Classes and other classifications...
In Europe there is not the HE concept (which is just a marketing strategy) , like there is not in other countries, even in the ones where there was a majority of top loaders historically and where other kinds of machnes and so front loaders are now sold...
HE is just a marketing strategy brought up in the USA to entice people buying new types of machines claimed to be better and money saver than others, the appealing name given: "high efficiency" makes people think at something better, better performing (not absolutely true)...so this elusive conceptual "trick" made the job over there, "tricking" lots of people with this concept and play on words...we've to remember front loader washers always existed in the USA but would not be HE...
Exist also HE machines that are Top loader and types of HE machines in which even regular powders could be used safely... as there're Front loaders that are non-HE... HE does not automatically translates in front loader...true, most of HE machines requires low-foam detergents like front loaders do...they had to put HE symbol in detergents since people are dumb so they did put this mark on low foam ones to say they're the ones good for the most of HE machines requiring low-foam products....thing that of course didn't happen in countries where the HE concept does not exist....and where they can just realize theirself where low foam is required, where is not...which is not so difficult matter...but for americans switichng to HE looks it is...not that the thing surprise me...
There is also the speech about Ariel bajaespuma very possibily not paragonable to the European or british version for istance, which yes is low foam like almost all the powders for automatics in europe (being the front loader kind more common) ....but likely not the same as the mexican bajaespuma one...like on the other hand the regular mexican one is totally different from the "handwash/twin tub/toploader agitator kind" sold in Europe....
We've to note as same brands sold over the world changes totally, the (low foam) tide you find in serbia for example is totally different of one sold in the USA...
May also be that is not the original mexican one we're talking about but maybe a new form of the now "Americanized" Ariel products line, called: "Ariel USA (product they're now carrying packed and manufactured on purpose for american market since great success of the mexican product in the USA) for which they could now sell and make even a (low foam) "HE" labelled version meant to be sold so on the american market with the HE logo infact..
I think more similar if not identical to the mexican ariel formulas instead than the european one...
But you'll never find the HE logo in one of the original mexican ones....nor the products will be the same or similar to the european ones... I can tell this for sure!
Thanks
Ah right, thanks for the interesting information Kenmoreguy.
So the people earlier on in the thread will be looking for a different Ariel to what we have?
Also to ask you a question? (You may have answered, but it's late and cant concentrate that well
Is the USA Tide HE that I buy suitable for our standard "HE" machines? You mentioned that a Serbian Tide is even lower foam than that of USA Tide HE's line? I love USA Tide, I really like the smell. I wish they sold it in the UK (USA looks like they can both have Ariel and Tide, so why not the UK?
Thanks
Liam,
Ah right, thanks for the interesting information Kenmoreguy.
So the people earlier on in the thread will be looking for a different Ariel to what we have?
Also to ask you a question? (You may have answered, but it's late and cant concentrate that well
Is the USA Tide HE that I buy suitable for our standard "HE" machines? You mentioned that a Serbian Tide is even lower foam than that of USA Tide HE's line? I love USA Tide, I really like the smell. I wish they sold it in the UK (USA looks like they can both have Ariel and Tide, so why not the UK?
Thanks
Liam,
kenmoreguy89
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Yes, absolutely, the Tide HE as I said is Tide but low foam so it's suitable for machines that requires a low foam detergent, so front loaders, is just a low foam version than the regular Tide...
The Serbian or "Eastern European" Tide as you can realize is a low foam detergent too, but differs totally from american Tide though, in composition, concentration and smell....
For example, a 6kg "Eastern European" powder Tide is rated to give 60 loads, while an american HE of 3 kg gives 80 loads...
I can tell that they're two totally different things in every aspect...
Generally same branded products found in different countries are different from country to country...
Maybe there're some exceptions though, for example, now in Mexico is sold a (henkel) Persil formula that possibly is the same as the german one.....
I'm not sure about this, but looks like reading from what they write that it is so....
It is not written anywhere the fact of them being low foam products and they just don't have two version of regular and low foam like other detergents...
So it leads me to think they're the same or very similar as the "standard" low foam german Henkel persil for automatics, while packaging and bottles changes from the european ones the product can be identical or vary just a little...
I still have to try them to tell something for sure...
The Henkel Persil found in the USA is different of the mexican Persil packaging, the Persil found in USA indeed is litterally the same german one, the Persil found in USA is specially made in Germany and mostly imported from Miele Dealers... and sometimes even from shops specialized in european products (along with other european brands)....
I think this is an agreement made with Henkel and Miele, so that Miele can support a fellow german manufacturer claiming their machines works better with this particular detergent only...that's why you find piles of German Persil next to a Miele set in Miele's appliances dealers shops in the USA... but this is just a maneuvre of Miele to make people believe that their machines are so "particular" to require a particular detergent... what a theater!!! Ahahahah!
You won't find Persil sold in supermarkets in the USA though as you find the Persil in Mexico...
So not sure if Persil in Mexico is just the same of German one... but very possibly it is... I will have to find out.
But Generally same brands of detergents changes from country to country...just like inside the EU, for example the Spanish Dixan is totally different of the Dixan sold in Italy..
In Italy the Dixan is the same product of German Henkel Persil but sold as Dixan, in Spain the Henkel Persil is sold under the name of Wipp, the Dixan you find in Spain is more similar of the brand in Italy is sold as "general" infact you can see both italian General and Spanish Dixan do have the same mascotte which is a "fox".... the same mascotte is of the detergent "spee" found in Germany which likely is same product as Italian General and Spanish Dixan..
The same masotte is also the one you find in mexican detergent 1-2-3.... but the 1-2-3 is non-low foam product and is different of the ones mentioned before in composition, even though it's smell resembles something of the Italian General..
The Serbian or "Eastern European" Tide as you can realize is a low foam detergent too, but differs totally from american Tide though, in composition, concentration and smell....
For example, a 6kg "Eastern European" powder Tide is rated to give 60 loads, while an american HE of 3 kg gives 80 loads...
I can tell that they're two totally different things in every aspect...
Generally same branded products found in different countries are different from country to country...
Maybe there're some exceptions though, for example, now in Mexico is sold a (henkel) Persil formula that possibly is the same as the german one.....
I'm not sure about this, but looks like reading from what they write that it is so....
It is not written anywhere the fact of them being low foam products and they just don't have two version of regular and low foam like other detergents...
So it leads me to think they're the same or very similar as the "standard" low foam german Henkel persil for automatics, while packaging and bottles changes from the european ones the product can be identical or vary just a little...
I still have to try them to tell something for sure...
The Henkel Persil found in the USA is different of the mexican Persil packaging, the Persil found in USA indeed is litterally the same german one, the Persil found in USA is specially made in Germany and mostly imported from Miele Dealers... and sometimes even from shops specialized in european products (along with other european brands)....
I think this is an agreement made with Henkel and Miele, so that Miele can support a fellow german manufacturer claiming their machines works better with this particular detergent only...that's why you find piles of German Persil next to a Miele set in Miele's appliances dealers shops in the USA... but this is just a maneuvre of Miele to make people believe that their machines are so "particular" to require a particular detergent... what a theater!!! Ahahahah!
You won't find Persil sold in supermarkets in the USA though as you find the Persil in Mexico...
So not sure if Persil in Mexico is just the same of German one... but very possibly it is... I will have to find out.
But Generally same brands of detergents changes from country to country...just like inside the EU, for example the Spanish Dixan is totally different of the Dixan sold in Italy..
In Italy the Dixan is the same product of German Henkel Persil but sold as Dixan, in Spain the Henkel Persil is sold under the name of Wipp, the Dixan you find in Spain is more similar of the brand in Italy is sold as "general" infact you can see both italian General and Spanish Dixan do have the same mascotte which is a "fox".... the same mascotte is of the detergent "spee" found in Germany which likely is same product as Italian General and Spanish Dixan..
The same masotte is also the one you find in mexican detergent 1-2-3.... but the 1-2-3 is non-low foam product and is different of the ones mentioned before in composition, even though it's smell resembles something of the Italian General..
