Which dishwasher gel to use?

[Marky_Mark]

Hi Bob.  I know you have hard water, whereas I have softened water.  

 

As long as I add sufficient STPP and select a cycle that is long enough and hot enough, those stains are completely removed and the stainless steel pans are left gleaming.  Finish Ultimate/Quantum never removes those stains even in the Miele on Intensive 75 ºC or in the PowerClean or KDS-18 etc.  

 

I do a lot of cooking in stainless steel pans!  One of the detergents I like using is Cascade Complete powder mixed with STPP (two-thirds Cascade, one-third STPP by weight).  Of course, Cascade Fryer Boil Out also removes those stains but it struggles to shift starch.

 

Mark

 

[Marky_Mark]

Louis, do you add the Sun powder to the prewash or the main wash?

 

[appnut]

Mark, thank you. I used the Bosch Auto with Sanitize & Crystal Dry options. That combination has the motor running at highest pressure even over the Intensive/Pots cycle. The Intensive ends up having both spray arms operating during main wash and despite the higher wash temp, I think the more intense pressure on Auto yields better results. I have Cascade Complete gel in the dark green bottle that I squirt some on the door for the prewash. My grocery store didn't have Complete powder when I needed to buy some. Thus opting for the gel.

 

[foraloysius]

Mark,

I add the Sun powder to the main wash. I think it’s useless in the prerinse that is done with cold water.

 

[verizonbear]

Question to all the Maytag owners

I have the exact same model of Maytag, I think it was TOL in 2016 or so. No filter, stainless wash arms that run in opposite directions. My question is, does the "PowerBlast" use a higher pressure water than the other cycles ? I think this model has a 1/3 horsepower motor. Lemishine rinse agent is key with my Maryland hard water.

 

[appnut]

Phil, to my knowledge, no WP produced product has any type of variable speed motor, which would result in more intense water pressure if it did. My Bosch is the first dishwasher I've owned that offers variable speed circulation intensity. My previous two dishwashers were WP produced Kenmore Elites, bought in 2006 and 2015.

 

[Marky_Mark]

Hi Phil. As Bob said, there is no difference in spray pressure, as it’s a single-speed pump.

See reply #4 for my description of the PowerBlast cycle.

Mark

 

[gelaundry4ever]

my dishwasher

My dishwasher varies the speed of the pump therefore changes pressure. It runs at high pressure during the main wash, and sometimes even final rinse at times.

 

[askolover]

Even with softened water I've been using finish ultimate without too much foaming in the KUDI23 KitchenAid I kind of go back and forth between chlorine powder and the new finish packs.

 

[maytaga806]

Cascade Complete gel is the absolute best dishwashing gel on the market. No chlorine, just enzymes. Comes in two beautiful scents that make the kitchen smell glorious while running a wash. I really miss the Lemon Burst scent the complete gel used to be available in, now it’s just fresh and citrus scent which is more of an orange scent but it’s still really good smelling and doesn’t really leave any scent behind or quite as much as PACs do.

 

[panasonicvac]

I have Cascade Complete Gel, it's been my most favorite dishwasher detergent I've ever used in my KitchenAid. I also like the original kind as well but sadly I recently found out on here that it's been discontinued. If gel has become a thing in the past, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me because I like using the Kirkland and Cascade Complete pods. I like Kirkland more because they seem to do a better job on smoker racks. I'm willing to give Finish another shot, from past experiences they were ok but not as good as Cascade. Maybe they've changed since then but I'd wait and see for myself. I'm also willing to give more experiences with powder detergent as well, my mom used to use powder before but she didn't liked it.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

cascade scent

My favorite Cascade complete scent is the citrus breeze one.

 

[maytaga806]

Cascade original chlorinated gel is not discontinued, it’s still been on their website. A lot of stores are simply not ordering them for their inventory. Having the same problem with Gain products and some Tide products as well my stores don’t order the ones I like.