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Didn't think Zeolites were etable? Knew they are used in cat liter!
I also used Laundress's water test for Borax and water was also clear?
Let us know how the Zeolite test goes!
 
Zeolite...

Is listed on there salt packets, and from my limited tasting, they seem do be, actually, really salty goodness ;)

 

 

Anyhow, typically, water softening products, (like White King ) contain, strong Builder Agents, and these agents will actually pull calcium and magnesium deposits, out of clothing. Clothes, really do look much better when washed in Soft Water, or Softened water, because those Calcium Deposits, actually work against, and bind with your detergent, and they get all trapped in the fibers, giving you that nasty dingy look. 

 

Everyone seems to think, Clorox is the answer, but when it reacts to Hard Water, you get that pastel Yellow look. I think for you, the White King, or another packaged water softener product, is going to give you the best results. 
 
White King....

USED to contain STPP. Then about 10-15 years ago, they started with different formulations. They would stamp a faint mark on the boxes to indicate what the softener was. A "P" meant STPP. A "Z" meant Zeolites. I think there was a third marking that meant just washing soda, but I don't recall what that was.

Gradually the "P" stamped boxes disappeared and all that was left were the "Z" boxes. It would not surprise me if the current stuff is not stamped at all, and they all contain Zeolites or some other non-phosphate softener. Zeolites would be listed as aluminum silicate, if listed at all. Detergent labeling in the USA is still a hit-and-miss affair. It doesn't seem that mfgs are required to reveal much of anything on the ingredients list, unless there is something definitely toxic in the mix.

I remember using White King Laundry detergent back in the 60's and 70's. It was pretty good stuff, high sudsing, great for top loaders. Probably loaded with phosphates.

Sodium sesquicarbonate is indeed a mix of sodium bicarb and sodium carb. It will precipitate out hard water minerals. Not sure what is in the current White King booster that prevents ppt. Perhaps it's the unlisted zeolites.


The stampings on White King were of a grease-pencil or china marker type of ink. So they rubbed off the slick box surface pretty easily. Often it was difficult to tell just what the marking was.

I doubt very much that the table salt McDonald's provides is made primarily of zeolites (aluminum silicate). Perhaps it's added as a drying agent in trace amounts?
 
Hi Sudsmasterter

Here's a pic of the number stamped on my box. There is a Z in the numerical sequence ?
So far this dose not preform as well as STPP, but a little better than washing soda. This with a little Borax, or oxygen bleach... Not bad,

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Please pardon me for being a smart ass again, but I seriously doubt that there are Zeolites in current White King despite of the "Z" in its production code.

Zeolites don`t dissolve in water so the water would be cloudy or at least they would settle to the bottom of the glass after a while.

However, the link I posted earlier to the White King`s ingredients list referes to a particular UPC code (10072613711113)
 
Sefan

It O.K to be a smart ass LOL
And I think your right! Just wanted to show the number.

Vern, I've never used the W.K and STPP together. I'm out of STPP now, and been too lazy to order.
I have mixed the W.K with a little Borax, and have used the W.K with liquid non chlorine bleach. And other than the glass of water test, That's as far as I've gone with it.
A few times the surfactant I used was a little lye soap in the mix.
So far I'm finding that it's doing a deceit job... How much better than ordinary washing soda... ? I think a bit better. Or it just wish full thinking!
 
Oh I was just wondering how much you use in general. You said you got better results with stpp. I was curious to know how much of that you use.
 
Hi Vern

It was about a 1/4 cup for a full load in my T.L

Don't know what part of C.A your in? We may have the same water? (Hardness)

Is the W.K still working well for you?
 

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