Why a Miele?

[hoover1100]

volsboy1

Thank you for sharing with us a wonderful example of the "I'll do what I want and screw the rest of you" attitude we know and despise so much.

Matt

 

[3beltwesty]

RE It may work out only a few cents here and there but when

Here for most of us US washer users the first if any repair's cost totally swamps any cost savings. It often is more than ones total outlay in water, electricity and soap; variables one has control off.

If the 599 buck 641 with tax LG Front loader explodes and dies in 5 years and one washes a typical us 2.5 loads a week; the washer cost 64100 cents for 650 washes; about 1 dollar a load. This is massive compared to the cost of the test I posted with 16Lbs of wash consuming 0.15 KWHR And 11 US gallons; ie my cost of 13 cents.

A neighbors Sears Kenmore HE FL bought after Kartina in the fall of 2005 is in a house next door that nobody lives in yet. The washers warranty was up and the washer died right afterward and the quoted repair cost is about 300 + bucks for the board and the pump and other stuff before even labor costs. It only has been used maybe 50 to 100 times and was a 600 + buck FL washer too. That means if the unit goes into a landfill each washload coat between 6 to 12 dollar. ie do you thrown 300 to 500 bucks more for a repair; or roll the dice again.

Here many items like washers and dryers are really not repaired; unless one does it oneself or is lucky and finds an honest repair person. Many folks just junk them; ie one avoids the waste of endless idiots screwing up with bad repair jobs.

ie the waste really is in the repair area. Folks know enough to be dangerous, parts are expensive. That is why a yet another neighbor scrapped out their Maytag Neptune and went back to dumb TL washers.

In little window 5500BTUH AC units bought here after Katrina to get by; most of them died in about 2 years and then they are tossed. Nobody can fix them cheaper than buying a new one. My own GE and Maytag units died in 2 years. the guy across the streets died in 1 year.; the lady next doors has had 2 or out 3 die in 5 years. All this stuff gets tossed. Her washer bought after Katrina already died , TL machine leaks like made. Thus the new owner who bought the house had the scrap man pick it up.

Thus the waste is really not is the power or water consumed; it is that so much stuff is imported and basically a few parts and service cost more than a new unit. Ie machines are throwaway things. It is often far worse with non USA items; parts cost more; the repair base is worse. Many folks here took their ill or dead/flooded washers and dryers to the curbside after Katrina due to flooding. Today many of the new machines bought in 2005 or 2006 are already dead due to the WASTE of the repairs being way too much. ie the spider breaks and all that beloved savings is down the drain; since the washer is scraped.

 

[Pingmeep]

Sadly that's largely accurate North of the border too. Although more Canadians seem to pay more for moderately better machines and parts and labour extended warranties are more common.

 

[3beltwesty]

Here in the USA if one buys a New 27" machine locally or custom orders a smaller frame 24" machine; one might not get a wash cycle that shows as much water as Chestermikeuk's image above.

Most new washers here never show any water like in that image; thus I suppose that image is from a machine from decades ago; posted to show the past.?

What machine is that from?

To shoot an image like that my FL 1976 Westinghouse has to have a very small load and the water selector dial purposely set super high. About the only time one really washed like that was to remove sand from beach towels; maybe a once a year thing where one added some extra things like a robust plastic cup or 2x4 chunk to "beat the sand" out of the fluffy towels.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Old Machine

It was the sloping front Hoover Keymatic from the 60's, this one owned & lovingly restored by Mathew (Keymatic 3203), it was, like those of its time a water hog!! AND it only washed 8lbs a time, similar to the Westy I think!!

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[3beltwesty]

Thanks; I thought that was Matt's current machine of today! thus I can sleep easy tonight!

 

[chestermikeuk]

Its up to date model...

Washes up to 9kg cotton load, 1600rpm, using 68lts of water for all the cycle!! how times change and things improve!!!

 

[3beltwesty]

Your machine uses less than a Coffield !

Your machine uses 68 Liters ie 18 US gallons. The 1976 Westy uses between 20 to 30 gallons; depending on where the water selector is set. The lower number if 20 and high number of 30 depend on the DC offset on the water level pressure switch; ie has anybody tweaked it.

The house here in 1971 had no water meter.

ie like in metered internet usage.

It did not even get a water meter until about 1978.

Waters cost was so low that one could not break even then with the added cost of adding water meters. ie the subdivision developer did not want to spend 50 to 100 per house for a meter; and then try to get it back via 1 dollar monthly bills!

The house back in 1968 had a water meter; the one in 1965 did not.

A house back in 1959 had a well; our own source of water. The house in 1952 had no water meter.

My grandmothers Coffield washing machine back in Detroit was powered by a water motor. The water flow made the drum move with a water motor. Houses had no water meters; and this was right in ground zero of Detroit were row houses were only 30 feet apart.

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[volsboy1]

No he has a one of a kind MIELE 24 Dimensional series washer. That dimension drive warps space and time and will wash 500 kilos in 3 minutes with a cup of water.That is the secret of how that 24 can wash soooo much more than any of our large wasteful L.G. 4.8 cubic ft washer.

 

[hoover1100]

Volsboy1

Hilarious!

 

[aegokocarat]

idk if this is relevent to the thread but since you are on about a rather plasticy looking hoover i thought you would like to see my version wihich is the essentials by steeple venus