Deep rinse is the only good way to get softner to work in a top loader IMO.
Why Do All Speed Queens Spray Rinse While Full of Water?
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In addition to softener working, it also insures that all the detergent is rinsed out. That's real luxury that actually works as long as it's a Speed Queen. You'd think luxury laundry would take the abuse and still keep running.
In addition to softener working, it also insures that all the detergent is rinsed out. That's real luxury that actually works as long as it's a Speed Queen. You'd think luxury laundry would take the abuse and still keep running.
Waschmaschine Missbrauch
Oh! Trust me when I say the most sincere indicator of luxury laundry equipment is the ability to take abuse and still keep going. Central dial Maytags come to mind. You could very severely overload the machine and the agitator would still keep going without anything tripping out. On my Speed Queen I've had serious inadvertent imbalances. The bottom of the tub will bang into the cabinet, but the machine will not reach full speed or walk across the room.
DDs have an issue with motor couplers breaking to often in my taste, where as on Maytags the belts lasts 30 years under all types of conditions. And once its time to change them, its a breeze.
Oh! Trust me when I say the most sincere indicator of luxury laundry equipment is the ability to take abuse and still keep going. Central dial Maytags come to mind. You could very severely overload the machine and the agitator would still keep going without anything tripping out. On my Speed Queen I've had serious inadvertent imbalances. The bottom of the tub will bang into the cabinet, but the machine will not reach full speed or walk across the room.
DDs have an issue with motor couplers breaking to often in my taste, where as on Maytags the belts lasts 30 years under all types of conditions. And once its time to change them, its a breeze.
Reply number 92
Chet I have never met anything like you you live in an incredible little dreamworld it’s obvious why you have to stay hidden because you would get bullied for the things you write.
Maytag dependable care was the only washer ever made that you could not overload because the agitator would not keep going the belt would burn up. We used to run warranty calls when the machines were three months old because somebody tried to stuff too much in it and the belt burned up, luckily, it was easy to fix, and people learn not to overload them, but there was no other top load agitator washer ever made were the agitator would just quit moving and it would damage the machine.
Direct drive washer seldom ever broke drive couplings usually get at least 10 years of very heavy use out of them. I just rebuilt one from 1991 last week and still had the original Drive coupling in it. It looked like new I didn’t even replace it.
John
You can go on making up anything you’d like but it doesn’t make it so.
Chet I have never met anything like you you live in an incredible little dreamworld it’s obvious why you have to stay hidden because you would get bullied for the things you write.
Maytag dependable care was the only washer ever made that you could not overload because the agitator would not keep going the belt would burn up. We used to run warranty calls when the machines were three months old because somebody tried to stuff too much in it and the belt burned up, luckily, it was easy to fix, and people learn not to overload them, but there was no other top load agitator washer ever made were the agitator would just quit moving and it would damage the machine.
Direct drive washer seldom ever broke drive couplings usually get at least 10 years of very heavy use out of them. I just rebuilt one from 1991 last week and still had the original Drive coupling in it. It looked like new I didn’t even replace it.
John
You can go on making up anything you’d like but it doesn’t make it so.
Speed Queen vs. competitors
I've clearly noticed the difference between Speed Queen and their competitors. First of all, the feel of the machines are clearly industrial grade. Second of all, they wash and rinse for real, when you consider how the competition just sprinkles the laundry and barely moves it around.
https://www.leadhousehold.co.za/spe...t the,inches higher than competitor machines.
I've clearly noticed the difference between Speed Queen and their competitors. First of all, the feel of the machines are clearly industrial grade. Second of all, they wash and rinse for real, when you consider how the competition just sprinkles the laundry and barely moves it around.
https://www.leadhousehold.co.za/spe...t the,inches higher than competitor machines.
Reply 93
Thats the whole point, you let the cheapest part of the machine either slip, fuse, or crack under a profound overload. Severe overloads won't do that to a Maytag however.
A DD motor is the exact same concept- it will typically shatter (at least an aged one) if the agitator is prevented from moving.
IIRC Mythbuster/Discovery Channel even did an episode where one of the hosts put his feet in the washer and the coupler broke after they turned it on trying to test out a particular myth.
Thats the whole point, you let the cheapest part of the machine either slip, fuse, or crack under a profound overload. Severe overloads won't do that to a Maytag however.
A DD motor is the exact same concept- it will typically shatter (at least an aged one) if the agitator is prevented from moving.
IIRC Mythbuster/Discovery Channel even did an episode where one of the hosts put his feet in the washer and the coupler broke after they turned it on trying to test out a particular myth.
Speed Queen is the obvious choice in every way. I tend to notice those on YouTube and chat forums praising Speed Queen are often very lucid with a low propensity for BS.
To Chetlaham...
I agree 100%. I use these Speed Queens all the time. I watched all three of the washers running before I left for my internship and as usual, no messing around.
I agree 100%. I use these Speed Queens all the time. I watched all three of the washers running before I left for my internship and as usual, no messing around.
I've been using a Speed Queen washer and Maytag dryer for 10 years now. I know how both machines behave, as well as those I used and tried prior. It is indeed a night and day difference. They do not mess around. 100% 140*F hot water. There are no error codes. No pilling or tears. No residue. No suds out of the drain pipe. No extra time spent filling, coasting or balancing. No break downs. No service calls. Imbalances are rare. Just clean clothes that smell amazing in 90 minutes! The durability is something you can feel too.
The dryer is the best dryer ever made. And the washer is easily in the top 5 greatest ever produced in the world. Only thing I would ever trade the washer for is a new Maytag Helical Center Dial.
The dryer is the best dryer ever made. And the washer is easily in the top 5 greatest ever produced in the world. Only thing I would ever trade the washer for is a new Maytag Helical Center Dial.
Speed Queen Washer and residue
I have NEVER, I REPEAT, NEVER had fabric softener residue or buildup on my laundry, even when the downy ball is full of it. I select heavy soil and the softener always gets mixed completely, insuring that suds also are killed. The corresponding dryers do a great job drying. They get quite hot on high but it makes use of the heated air with grace and mercy. No damage, but efficiently dry without any do overs.
Don't mess with the queens or else...
I have NEVER, I REPEAT, NEVER had fabric softener residue or buildup on my laundry, even when the downy ball is full of it. I select heavy soil and the softener always gets mixed completely, insuring that suds also are killed. The corresponding dryers do a great job drying. They get quite hot on high but it makes use of the heated air with grace and mercy. No damage, but efficiently dry without any do overs.
Don't mess with the queens or else...
Speed Queen Laundry
I wonder what Speed Queen Laundry will do next.
I wonder what Speed Queen Laundry will do next.
I wonder what Speed Queen Laundry will do next.
Probably remove more options in the name of "green" or discontinue their top loading washers altogether.
In the meantime, hopefully they get out of the bloody dark ages and put a f$%&ing heater in their front load washers.
Probably remove more options in the name of "green" or discontinue their top loading washers altogether.
In the meantime, hopefully they get out of the bloody dark ages and put a f$%&ing heater in their front load washers.
top load washers
If they do still make top load washers, what will they come up with? I pray they're not forced into the STUPID HE green crap.
If they do still make top load washers, what will they come up with? I pray they're not forced into the STUPID HE green crap.
My guess is Speed Queen will discontinue the TC and continue the TR concept but with much, much less water per cycle. The variable tub speed, load sensing, and angle fill flume already have them geared to roll out such a concept at any time.
And yes, put a heater in those front loads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!
And yes, put a heater in those front loads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!
Speed Queen Perfect Wash
It's just a matter of time before they're forced to comply with the EPA and DOE. As a loyal fan of them, this is disheartening. Boy, what have we come to? Are we really that stupid to notice?
It's just a matter of time before they're forced to comply with the EPA and DOE. As a loyal fan of them, this is disheartening. Boy, what have we come to? Are we really that stupid to notice?
Regulations are no mercy. As the saying goes the road to heck is paved with good intentions.
However I think they're the stupid ones, I just came across this which kind of confirms it.
Spray rinse starts at 15:10, but seems to hit the base of the agi more than the load, and not a lot of suds kill.
However I think they're the stupid ones, I just came across this which kind of confirms it.
Spray rinse starts at 15:10, but seems to hit the base of the agi more than the load, and not a lot of suds kill.
Reply number 105
Speed Queen TC normal eco cycle operation.
At least half the customers that I talk to you that have this machine use the normal Eco cycle almost exclusively so the government regulations are having the intended effect. A lot of energy is being saved. Even this guy that made this video commented that his parents mostly use the cycle and he’s even using the cycle so I think it’s a great thing it’s having the intended effect. It’s very useful for certain washing situation’s.
This is an excellent example of government regulations working it’s giving people the option to save water. Imagine if you had the same washer without this energy saving cycle available to you that would be an awful thing. If you didn’t have the department of energy helping us save water and energy when we want to do so.
John.
Speed Queen TC normal eco cycle operation.
At least half the customers that I talk to you that have this machine use the normal Eco cycle almost exclusively so the government regulations are having the intended effect. A lot of energy is being saved. Even this guy that made this video commented that his parents mostly use the cycle and he’s even using the cycle so I think it’s a great thing it’s having the intended effect. It’s very useful for certain washing situation’s.
This is an excellent example of government regulations working it’s giving people the option to save water. Imagine if you had the same washer without this energy saving cycle available to you that would be an awful thing. If you didn’t have the department of energy helping us save water and energy when we want to do so.
John.
Reply 106- My point wasn't so much about the concept of a spray rinse in of itself. I have even advocated for complete spray rinsing in other threads over a deep rinse when appropriate. IMO it has its place especially with smaller loads. The issue is that the spray rinses on Speed Queen washers start way to early. This is not exclusive to the normal eco cycle, but all cycles even Heavy Duty and Bulky. Most Speed Queens of any age, mine AWN412 included, start spraying with the tub 1/3 full of water. Does no good imo. Let the machine coast to full speed, that would be at least 3 or 4 minutes of spin, then open the fill valve.
For example, Whirlpool allocates 2 minutes of draining, then 4 minutes of spinning with 2 minutes guaranteed at high before initiating the resource saver spray rinse part of the cycle.
Speed Queen does not do any of this, instead the do all the sprays on low speed, with the first one starting with the tub still full of water. This is a very poorly executed good intention which gives eco a worse name.
GSD-DAN- People ought to have the right to choose deep or spray. Or better yet spray + deep like on the old Maytag DCs.
For example, Whirlpool allocates 2 minutes of draining, then 4 minutes of spinning with 2 minutes guaranteed at high before initiating the resource saver spray rinse part of the cycle.
Speed Queen does not do any of this, instead the do all the sprays on low speed, with the first one starting with the tub still full of water. This is a very poorly executed good intention which gives eco a worse name.
GSD-DAN- People ought to have the right to choose deep or spray. Or better yet spray + deep like on the old Maytag DCs.
eco scam
The normal eco cycle is more like a scam to me. There's no way in Hell I will EVER be using that cycle. The soap doesn't rinse out properly. I'm keeping it on deep rinse using the heavy duty cycle, or in my case, using the heavy soil option on the normal cycle on the commercial units at my apartment. I'm dead SERIOUS. Bleh! No thank you!
The normal eco cycle is more like a scam to me. There's no way in Hell I will EVER be using that cycle. The soap doesn't rinse out properly. I'm keeping it on deep rinse using the heavy duty cycle, or in my case, using the heavy soil option on the normal cycle on the commercial units at my apartment. I'm dead SERIOUS. Bleh! No thank you!
Jerome, do your machine take more money when set to heavy duty? I remember in the 2000s when one apartment complex started charging more for a hot fill IIRC.
heavy duty cycle equivalent and money
No Chetlaham, the price is the same. As for heaters in their front loaders, put them in please and add water recirculation on all cycles! Thank you!
No Chetlaham, the price is the same. As for heaters in their front loaders, put them in please and add water recirculation on all cycles! Thank you!
fresh smells
You get fresh smelling clothes with laundry detergent and fabric softener thoroughly mixed in, without fuss with Speed Queen Laundry. And, they're fun to watch. I love the dramatic splashing sound and movement of the downy balls, as well as the hum of the motors.
You get fresh smelling clothes with laundry detergent and fabric softener thoroughly mixed in, without fuss with Speed Queen Laundry. And, they're fun to watch. I love the dramatic splashing sound and movement of the downy balls, as well as the hum of the motors.
I'm with you, give me a heater and water circulation on any front load. Detergent works best starting from cold than being heated t the desired temp. Water circulation keeps detergents from getting wedged in the sump.
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