Why Has Whirlpool Never Sold a BOL Power Clean Module?

[johnb300m]

It surprises me with my current portable Haiet GE how well it actually cleans, and I think that's mostly due to the detergent. But this machine also uses more water and runs both spray arms at the same time. You can get a very good wash on the 48-minute cycle. Not too bad.

There's something to say about how good detergent has gotten.
I know it was rough when the phosphates were removed for a bit. There were scaling and powdery coating issues, especially with Cascade in the mid 2000s.
But the formulas are SO good now. The detergents definitely clean better than they used to with all the enzymes now.
Even things like eggs! Egg residue NEVER used to come off completely, or sometimes not at all.
OK, great, phosphates are softening my water, but there's egg everywhere!
Not anymore. Even cheapo Target brand powder cleans eggs decently well, in a Powerclean with a short main wash.

The only challenge I ran into with modern detergents wit bleach-free formulas, is when I got my KUD23 a few years ago.
The main wash and final rinse are so short, it wasn't removing coffee or tea stains very well, and they started to build up.
My (brief) solution was to test around and find that Finish Powder, which was available only at this local Russian grocery store, worked wonders on the coffee stains.
Oh, but then Reckitt discontinued it totally -_-

The next best thing, was finding a KUDS25, with the slightly longer main wash, and longer, heated final rinse.
That really seems to act better at getting coffee stains out, and while using a wider variety of detergents.
SO far, powder Cascade, Seventh Generation, or Finish Power pacs, seem to be working best with that machine.
Cascasde pods of any variety are awful in the Powerclean. Way way too much foam.

 

[appnut]

My Bosch 800 Series does an amazing job.

 

[Chetlaham]

Guys, let’s get the politics out of this thread, or I’m going to request again that a lot of it be eliminated and maybe the whole thread there’s a section for politics and dirty laundry

Running for moderator again John? You can't just erase everything you think is nonsense.

I will not standby and listen to this nonsense. I have many customers who work for the government who are hard-working people, and I have often consulted with some of these people on laws and regulations both for the Consumer Product Safety Commission and for energy star products.

John L

Hard working and great intentions do not guarantee a good outcome.

Nearly every action taken in history was done out of what the acting person thought was good or thought would progress humanity, outcome on the other hand was and is all over the place.

 

[Chetlaham]

The next best thing, was finding a KUDS25, with the slightly longer main wash, and longer, heated final rinse.
That really seems to act better at getting coffee stains out, and while using a wider variety of detergents.
SO far, powder Cascade, Seventh Generation, or Finish Power pacs, seem to be working best with that machine.
Cascasde pods of any variety are awful in the Powerclean. Way way too much foam.

This dishwasher is one of the best ever created. The secret is turning down the hot water to 120 or lower. The cooler fill will result in a longer main wash which helps with all foods, backed on and cooked on foods, stains, tomato sauce, and dried on soils. Filling both cups is also key and of course use Pots and Pans/Heavy when called for. The two heated washes make all the difference in the world.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Not being sarcastic or facetious, but do food particles still dissolve on the 1 hour cycle? Will the filter clog up after constant use of the 1 hour cycle?

I ran my dishwasher with the door open to see why the upper rack was spinning the spray arm so slowly. Come to find out that the spray was very weak in my Whirlpool/Kenmore dishwasher.

 

[phillymatt53]

I ran my dishwasher with the door open to see why the upper rack was spinning the spray arm so slowly. Come to find out that the spray was very weak in my Whirlpool/Kenmore dishwasher.

Jeez!
I would imagine that the whole kitchen and you would get a messy bath!
Pour a cup of CLR in from the beginning of the normal cycle and let it run to the end.
It'll help break up any clogs in the lines due to hard water deposits.

 

[Chetlaham]

I ran my dishwasher with the door open to see why the upper rack was spinning the spray arm so slowly. Come to find out that the spray was very weak in my Whirlpool/Kenmore dishwasher.

Good dishwasher drenches the kitchen with the door open and flips over plastic bowls in the upper rack.

 

[johnb300m]

I ran my dishwasher with the door open to see why the upper rack was spinning the spray arm so slowly. Come to find out that the spray was very weak in my Whirlpool/Kenmore dishwasher.

There must be some buildup Jerome.
Over the years, and yes I’ve posted clips here, I’ve had clear door fronts on GE and KitchenAid dishwashers. Models that alternate washarms. And I’ve observed the jets, both top and bottom, are very strong. The bottom jets will indeed hit the ceiling. So will the top jets.
Whirlpool platform machines will have their upper arms spin between 30-40rpm. That’s in the tech sheets under the machines.
GEs will spin much faster, but both are spraying strongly.
Don’t you worry your little ticker.