You served us well, AEG!

[henene4]

I doubt these are programmed to time out like in programm code written to justshut it down. I saw the physical damage on that board, so if planned, then it is just a matter of calculated component overliading.

The old one was loud as hell for its entirety of life. Didn't you once mention she had a L71670FL as well? It always was loud, and the bearings sound kind of rough from the beginning, but there was no real sign of failure when I took them apart. No leaks, no play, no overly loud noise.
One reason we got an extended warranty. If the bearings fail, overloading can be logicly disproofen in our household. We have 2 washers for 3 people basicly now. 4, if you count me in. And MediaMarkt still has the 100% refund or replacement policy on their warranty extensions; further we know the local AEG tech (he services BSH and ELux as well as Whirlpool now, so he has been at our place serveral times by now), so the Panasonic debacel won't happen again.

I just checked again and while BSH would have been the certanly longer lasting option, their cheapest 1600rpm model retails for about 500€, so more then the AEG with extended warranty and delivery.

 

[panthera]

I don't doubt it for one moment

After what VW did, why would I trust any of the möchtegerne Manager die 'Managen tün' NOT to program a failure? Not in your case, but in general.

I'd believe my student any day, his job was to carefully compare other brands to their brands. *Cough*reverse engineering*Cough*.

The generation of managers who have taken over industry in my homeland are the most corrupt, least ethical we've seen in Germany since the late 1940's.

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[henene4]

If BSH would actualy have the knowledge of that, they could easily wipe them of the market with one litlle "leak" of information, IMHO.

And, honestly, a software made timeout would make life for hackers much easier. A brokencomponent has to be reset. A software counter should be easy to just reset.

 

[logixx]

"Didn't you once mention she had a L71670FL as well?"

Yes, although hers is the 1400 rpm model.

Anyway, yeah, the brushed motor has always sounded "different" from Whirlpool's induction motor. But now, it's rumbling whenever the drum turns and you can move the drum up and down. I just hope it won't blow up during the spin...

 

[panthera]

Henrik,

I suspect there's a very good reason none of the manufacturers talk about each other in public... Eine Krähe hackt der anderen kein Auge aus.

 

[rolls_rapide]

"Eine Krähe hackt der anderen kein Auge aus"

Or perhaps:

Birds of a feather flock together.

 

[henene4]

First cycle check

Had a load of whites today. Heavy soil, about 3kg (11 T-Shirts, 7 pairs of underwear, 2 dish towels).

Selected Cottons 40C, reduced the time by 2 bars, added prewash and extra rinse. It gave me an initial reading of 3:35h, but cut down, taking about 2:45h in the end.
I did overdose accidently (forgot that the stainremover I used would suds a lot).

Prewash and sensing took about 30 minutes. The prewash used short tumbles, heated to 30C and actually reheated the water once.
The main wash was about 50min total, 40 of those with the ELux style Quick/Slow tumbles shown here towards the end of the mainwash:


Then, it did a drain and started this first of 4 rinses:

No interim spin before that as usual when extra rinse is selected.
Then, as you can see in the video, interim spin at about 1200rpm I guess.
The distribution phase shows the increasing tumbling speeds to act against tangled items and to move heavy items towards the outside, so balancing would be easier.

2 more rinses followed. All with tumbling while filling, about 4 minutes of rinse time, and a simmilar spin. All used about the same water level (see picture below, brought to you by the instant unlock door; yes, I just had to press Pause to open the door at that point).

The final rinse used a static fill and the same water level. Same rinse time, too.

At 22min on the timer, it drained, distributed, did a short ~600rpm burst, slowed down, checked for balance, relaunched for a ~1200rpm burst, slowed down again, checked for balance, and that is where this video starts, with 17 minutes left on the timer:

At 14min on the timer, it reaches its super smooth 1550rpm spin. And stays there for 13 minutes, or 780sec. Believe me, this load was super dry. Don't think the bearings are all to happy about it, the backside of the drum got luke warm. But hey, who cares?

The machine it self only jiggles a little during the initial ramp up to 400rpm, otherwise, it's perfectly stable and incredibly quiet.
Rinse and wash results were excelent.

Overall, a really good cycle. I'll do some towels and bedding next week and see how it likes that.

 

[foraloysius]

Interesting, I have never seen these models labeled as AEG here, just as Zanussi. Perhaps these are also sold under the Electrolux label, but Elux is not a popular brand here.

The final spin is very long, but I assume that laundry wouldn't be much wetter when it would spin for only 6 minutes at the highest speed, or perhaps even for a shorter while.

Thanks for sharing your videos.

 

[rolls_rapide]

AEG spin speed

I'm curious as to why you say that the AEG spins at 1550 rpm...

Is it actually sold as reaching 1600 rpm? How do you know it only does 1550 rpm?

 

[henene4]

They are sold as 1600rpm, but ELux always capped that to 1550rpm. The service cycle has a spin test which goes to max speed and any ELux model will only go 1550rpm max.

I think Miele and BSH do the same. Siemens had a glitch on their website that allowed for rpm filters like 1564rpm, and these numbers had to come from sonewhere.
Miele actually sold machines as 1550rpm for a bit.