I couldn't begin to tell you what percentage of noise was reduced. I can say it is noticeably quieter. I've used the mats also on my Maytag A50 and Maytag DE806. It does help muffle the "booming" of the cabinet panels.
2015 Speed Queen Washer Model AWNE82SP113TW01
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I couldn't begin to tell you what percentage of noise was reduced. I can say it is noticeably quieter. I've used the mats also on my Maytag A50 and Maytag DE806. It does help muffle the "booming" of the cabinet panels.
Well now...
It seems the Speed Queen has developed a slow cold water fill. First thing was to check the cold water hose filter, it was dirty, cleaned it and the cold water pressure increased, but only slightly. The water lines to the washer are brand new PEX-A. I am beginning to suspect the water inlet valve may be going bad. I'll check it with a multi-meter. I hope the issue is not with the control board.
It seems the Speed Queen has developed a slow cold water fill. First thing was to check the cold water hose filter, it was dirty, cleaned it and the cold water pressure increased, but only slightly. The water lines to the washer are brand new PEX-A. I am beginning to suspect the water inlet valve may be going bad. I'll check it with a multi-meter. I hope the issue is not with the control board.
kalanikaau1
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Reply# 139
We used to have an older KitchenAid (Whirlpool) top loader at the firehouse for washing our personal laundry, when replacing the drive coupling once I noticed that it had sound insulation pads strategically placed within the cabinet, the unit was significantly quieter than other Whirlpool washers I've used.
Shown here is the front panel of a SQ LWN432SP115TW01 top load washer I am currently refreshing, the panel is awaiting being painted.
I, like you have a OCD disorder of sorts, however I have 2 boxes of this sound insulation laying around, what better use than to quiet a known raucous machine?
The only drawback is that it adds significantly to the already not so demure weight of 200 pounds to the machine...
We used to have an older KitchenAid (Whirlpool) top loader at the firehouse for washing our personal laundry, when replacing the drive coupling once I noticed that it had sound insulation pads strategically placed within the cabinet, the unit was significantly quieter than other Whirlpool washers I've used.
Shown here is the front panel of a SQ LWN432SP115TW01 top load washer I am currently refreshing, the panel is awaiting being painted.
I, like you have a OCD disorder of sorts, however I have 2 boxes of this sound insulation laying around, what better use than to quiet a known raucous machine?
The only drawback is that it adds significantly to the already not so demure weight of 200 pounds to the machine...
Slow cold water fill, and sound insulation
Hi Louie, if the valve is trying to let cold water in, you can’t do anything with A multimeter, you have a bad inlet valve. I assume you checked the flow by taking the cold water, inlet hose, and directed it into the tub of the washer and turning it on full force if there’s great force there you have a Bad bad valve.
We have sound insulated many washing machines and dryers. It can make a good machine really pleasing to have around, Jason and I got into a competition with Jon from Boston after Jon added insulation to his 1to18 Frigidaire washer went a few steps further and have one that is almost silent, we added 40 pounds of insulation to the front panel alone we sealed nearly every seam and we even put a sound insulating block all the way around the bottom of the machine just inside the edge. This was a technique that Maytag used on the Norgetag machines. We also added a foam seal around the edge of the lid to keep noise inside the machine, when Jon C got to see our handiwork, he complained that he could still hear the timer motor, lol
I like the dynamite stuff you’re using, but I find it also helps to add a lot of weight to the panels. I’ve often use thick semi-flexible vinyl flooring, etc. and glue and tape that to the inside of the panels adding a lot of weight really dampens the noise when you knock on the front of this machine with your hand. It sounds more like fine furniture than a tiny metal box.
We also added a lot of very thin foam weatherstripping to the edges of the panels to keep noise in the machine.
John
Hi Louie, if the valve is trying to let cold water in, you can’t do anything with A multimeter, you have a bad inlet valve. I assume you checked the flow by taking the cold water, inlet hose, and directed it into the tub of the washer and turning it on full force if there’s great force there you have a Bad bad valve.
We have sound insulated many washing machines and dryers. It can make a good machine really pleasing to have around, Jason and I got into a competition with Jon from Boston after Jon added insulation to his 1to18 Frigidaire washer went a few steps further and have one that is almost silent, we added 40 pounds of insulation to the front panel alone we sealed nearly every seam and we even put a sound insulating block all the way around the bottom of the machine just inside the edge. This was a technique that Maytag used on the Norgetag machines. We also added a foam seal around the edge of the lid to keep noise inside the machine, when Jon C got to see our handiwork, he complained that he could still hear the timer motor, lol
I like the dynamite stuff you’re using, but I find it also helps to add a lot of weight to the panels. I’ve often use thick semi-flexible vinyl flooring, etc. and glue and tape that to the inside of the panels adding a lot of weight really dampens the noise when you knock on the front of this machine with your hand. It sounds more like fine furniture than a tiny metal box.
We also added a lot of very thin foam weatherstripping to the edges of the panels to keep noise in the machine.
John
kalanikaau1
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Reply# 142
Good to hear that my efforts to sound deaden my SQ won't be futile.
I've already added sound deadening to at least 80% of the front panel, the inherent "tinny" sound associated a large panel of sheet metal has vanished (see reply #141).
Good to hear that my efforts to sound deaden my SQ won't be futile.
I've already added sound deadening to at least 80% of the front panel, the inherent "tinny" sound associated a large panel of sheet metal has vanished (see reply #141).
Déjà vu. The slow cold water fill has returned. Last time it was a clogged filter on the cold water line. This time, I had the same issue. New filter, cold water flow restored. Now, I had heard that diverter valves should be replaced every few years. I suspect the Speed Queen still has its original valve in place. To be on the safe side, I have decided to replace it with an after market valve. I'll post pic's, although this will be a cinch to do.
Bad washer, inlet valve
It’s very common for inlet valves in any automatic washer or dishwasher to fail. Occasionally the failure is often a slow fill condition. They also can get stuck open and cause a flood.
These valves do not need replacing every few years, but they need replacing when they failed to perform properly Many in that valves outlast the Appliance.
This is not called a diverter valve. It’s an inlet valve. There’s nothing safe in buying an imitation one. They’re more likely to stick on and flood or for the housing to crack and cause a flood not something I would want on the 18th floor of condo building.
Some aftermarket valves may be of excellent quality, but I don’t know how to tell the difference, on critical parts like this we always try to get a genuine part.
John L
It’s very common for inlet valves in any automatic washer or dishwasher to fail. Occasionally the failure is often a slow fill condition. They also can get stuck open and cause a flood.
These valves do not need replacing every few years, but they need replacing when they failed to perform properly Many in that valves outlast the Appliance.
This is not called a diverter valve. It’s an inlet valve. There’s nothing safe in buying an imitation one. They’re more likely to stick on and flood or for the housing to crack and cause a flood not something I would want on the 18th floor of condo building.
Some aftermarket valves may be of excellent quality, but I don’t know how to tell the difference, on critical parts like this we always try to get a genuine part.
John L
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You have the best modern washer known to man. Keep it! Don't get rid of it. Don't!
It's the valve. The washer ran a few cycles just fine, then suddenly showed an "error" code. Fill was painfully slow again. I guess the cold water solenoid is not opening completely. Glad I ordered a replacement.
Inlet valves seem to be a common failure, had that happen to my Maytag A606, ordered a replacement and seems to be working. Installed one on my Franken-Pool, seems to work rather well though has been over a week since I’ve used it.
Easy peasy...
Out with the old, in with the new.
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Seems you have appreciable debris in the water supply. I recall that John advises to replace the valve assembly instead of clean the screens ... so there you have it.
How does the new valve compare to the old one? What is the cold, warm and hot fill rate compared to the existing valve?
I ask because I was debating between this valve and a Whirlpool OEM valve. I went with the Whirlpool OEM valve. Flow rates are about the same for all 3 as the previous valve, except I had to swap the electrical leads and fill hoses since the small hole (hot) is where the cold port was on the old valve.
I ask because I was debating between this valve and a Whirlpool OEM valve. I went with the Whirlpool OEM valve. Flow rates are about the same for all 3 as the previous valve, except I had to swap the electrical leads and fill hoses since the small hole (hot) is where the cold port was on the old valve.
The water flow is way superior in comparison to the old Speed Queen valve. But to be fair, the old valve was failing. I have no idea what the flow rate was. The new valve cost $36.99 plus tax. A new Speed Queen valve was actually 1 dollar less. So far, so good.
How is warm compared to the other two temps (hot and cold)? I notice this valve has a restrictor in the nozzle as apposed to all the other valves. According to some sites, that flow rate is limited to 4.4 gallons per minute.
I might swap the valve to a genuine OEM.
I might swap the valve to a genuine OEM.
flow restrictors
I don't like flow restrictors. They cause the washer to take forever to fill.
I don't like flow restrictors. They cause the washer to take forever to fill.
Jerome, I am with you. Especially the VMWs, which are absurdly slow.
I am guessing the 4.4 gallon per minute flow restrictor is because of the normal eco cycle. On normal eco, at least the EM models, only filled for 24 seconds with hot water in the wash period, and did 3 24 second cold spray rinses only.
So, 4.4 divided by 60 = 0.0733333 gallons per second.
24 seconds x 3 sprays = 72 seconds
72 seconds times 0.0733333 gallons per second = 5.28 gallons of rinse water total. No thank you.
What is interesting, Whirlpool resource saver spray rinse service manual says that each recirculation spray uses one to two gallons of water. There were six recirculation rinses on the original resource savers.
Whirlpool Resource saver uses between 6 and 12 gallons of water, and adjusts for the amount of clothing in the basket.
I am guessing the 4.4 gallon per minute flow restrictor is because of the normal eco cycle. On normal eco, at least the EM models, only filled for 24 seconds with hot water in the wash period, and did 3 24 second cold spray rinses only.
So, 4.4 divided by 60 = 0.0733333 gallons per second.
24 seconds x 3 sprays = 72 seconds
72 seconds times 0.0733333 gallons per second = 5.28 gallons of rinse water total. No thank you.
What is interesting, Whirlpool resource saver spray rinse service manual says that each recirculation spray uses one to two gallons of water. There were six recirculation rinses on the original resource savers.
Whirlpool Resource saver uses between 6 and 12 gallons of water, and adjusts for the amount of clothing in the basket.
There is a marked difference in temperatures, although in winter the cold water here is just above freezing.
I had no idea there was a water restricter on the valve. Can you tell me where? The old valve looked identical to me.
For the record...
The genuine part.
The genuine part.
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