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seems they might be going back to the solid vane....been there before






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DAA do recirculate clothes efficiently. However, I need to see how my clothes get washed. DAA will have problems with large piece of clothing. I remember opening the lid (yes, I had to bypass it) to see how my winter coat was getting washed. The coat was buttoned and zipped and it lay the way I put it in the machine for the entire wash... with one sleeve filled with air out of the water. It never turned over as it could never pull the coat down in the water. DAA were introduced first in laundromat to compensate for people overfilling the machines (less strain on trans/motor).

SQ has the same type agitator (minus the flex vane) that my mom used to have on her late 60's washer. If the largest manufacturer of washing machines still use this type of agitator... It's because it is efficient as it will pull everything down in the water.

Some will say it ruins clothes. I say... Buy quality clothes. I don't remember anybody complaining in the 70's, 80's or 90's.
 
@agiflow: I agree. Speed Queen knows what customers want. They knew what I wanted and then some. I have NOT used a BETTER washer outside of two vintage machines (Supersurgilator belt drive and 1970's Maytag Helical) and if they put a $2000 price tag on my machine I still would have bought it. In fact I am even musing with the idea of buying a TL SQ now for the feature. I have no doubt Speed Queen will make a serious effort despite the restricted water usage.

I agree that GE and Whirlpool have lost their way, but in all fairness part of that comes from energy regs. With restricted water use there is only so much you can do- you practically need to re-invent the top washer. Manufacturers wish they did not have to go that route.

But going back to the agi- if thats it then I have a feeling SQ will use those veins to "stir" the clothes; intermittent pules in between stirring to roll them over, trying to mimick a front load but on a vertical scale. I have to admit thats very simple yet ingenious. In that case I can certainly see the need for a VFD.
 
And I forgot to address this:

"Lid locks are cheaper then brakes, yes. The only way to stop a 700rpm drum in seconds notice is a heavy duty break.
Given that there is no use in opening the lid while the spinning is going (can't add laundry during a spin, can you), locking the lid while spinning is far more economical then the breaks."

Only way? Then how did a Hydrowave brake without an actually brake assembly? I have a feeling people are selectively reading my posts :P
 
The Millennials and Generation Z'ers I work with are bright, creative, enterprising, and work smarter rather than harder. Their priorities are sometimes as different from mine (born 1959) as my sister's (born 1947) were from our parents' (born 1914 and 1921). And that's as it should be. Any group that isn't different enough to spark the ire of the ones who came before them isn't doing its job.👍
 
"Does the SCAW2GEN requires to be connected to the power outlet for use? If not, why doesn't it come with internal batteries to save electricity? The same question with the hoses, do I really need to connect the fill and drain hose to operate the equipment?"

Honestly i wanted to send a not-so-polite reply, but of course i would never do that. then I went to the customer profile and discovered she was born in 1999.

People nowadays are so dumb that think that if you use a battery it is saving electricity, and protecting the environment as the device is not plugged in "during" the use.

They don't really realize that a battery is just a "container" for electricity and you need to "fill that container". Protect the environment, with batteries? Oi? Hola? Hello?

About the hoses.... What the f-word? What is the washer going to do? take water from the air and then evaporate the water back to the air?

And the other email.... why rinse? with the technology we have nowadays (because everything pre 2000 is outdated and super obsolete and miraculously we started doing witchcraft and magic just like Harry Potter exactly on jan 1st 2000) washers should wash.

I won't mention the literally hundreds of emails from people that saw a machine (on Facebook) that folds the clothes and they ask us to make something similar and cheaper.

They literally want a machine that the user flip the dirty laundry basket in it and the washer will sort, wash dry, iron, forld and put the clothes in the closet. And of course controlled by an app in their iPhones.

Talkign about apps.... Yes, some customers ask us why we don't make a spin dryer with an app, because it would be EASIER to operate if it could be controlled by their smartphones.

What can be easier than close the lid to start and open the lid to stop? We even got rid of the timer because of that... no locks, not switches, not buttons... nothing. literally just lower the lid to start a spin dryer and lift it to stop.

Again, back to the millennials... I even posted here "ipsis litteris" a phone call i received from a customer. I listened to the call recording while typing the conversation here at AWO. Why user manuals? Why shipping brackets to protect the product during shipping? Millennials complain even for that! because cutting 2 zip ties is so "last century".

Should i start designing a spin dryer that comes in a box like those life rafts? you just jerk a cord and the box opens itself, the spin dryer goes jumping to it's installation place, the power plug finds the outlet and plugs itself then two mechanical arms will collect the clothes and put them in the drum? Oh, and the box and shipping material will also fold itself as compact as possible and then walk to the curb and jump in the dumpster.

Why user manuals? Believe it or not the same customer felt OFFENDED because of a user manual. again the same excuse starting with "this is 2017". Who needs a user manual in 2017? Of course we know how to do everything, we're smarter than a spin dryer, we don't need to read the manual and if something goes wrong because we did something that we shouldn't do we can simply sue the manufacturer. It's easier, and more profitable than reading a manual.

So yes, millennials are the disaster in our lives. Some years ago, because of them we (designers and engineers) had to run the extra mile to offer more technology. Now we were literally forced to dumb down our products. We could and we can do wonders, we are creative enough to "create", but we can't do that because this F-word generation will continue lazy and will continue expecting more and will sue us as never before.

mid 80s to mid 90's one would use common sense and sue a manufacturer IF we did something really wrong that resulted in losses (from a damaged shirt to a personal injury). For example suing a manufacturer because of a dog or a cat that was killed or injured because it was "washed" in a washer was unthinkable. If a "client" looked for an attorney, much before the process start, the first thing the attorney would say is "i won't get your case because you will never win, that's stupid"

Nowadays, we have to put stickers "do not spin dry dogs, cats, birds, etc..." and we could be still sued and we would have a super hard time explaining to the judge that a washing machine is made to wash clothes, not pets, the instructions are very clear on the user manual and we also put stickers, just in case, on the product lid.

The new sticker we added this week (9th sticker) was "do not remove stickers before reading and understanding them" because the new reason used by attorneys is that their clients didn't know they should read the safety stickers or it wasn't clear that that instruction was really serious.

For this same reason we find peanut bags with a huge alert "contains peanuts" or egg gartons saying "contains eggs" or milk gallons saying "contains milk".

Milleninals don't know knives cut... next time you go to a store, just go to the cutlery aisle and start reading the boxes... "knifes are sharp and can cause injuries - they can cut!" WOW, really? I didn't know knives cut.... did they start making knives that cut recently? Impressive!
 
I too, am fed up!

As someone born in the year 2000 and who attends high school, I wholeheartedly agree with your comments.

My generation is a lump of lazy, inpatient, entitled, know-it-alls. Why do you think that shipping companies now feel the need to put their database online so that impatient people can stare at it, no matter how long one stares it the tracking data, the item isn't coming any sooner. I also remember seeing something about landlords coming for a 6 month inspection and finding half the light bulbs burnt out and not replaced because their millenial tennents don't know how to replace them or care to learn.(LEFTY Loosy, RIGHTY Tighty!!!) I think part of the problem lies in the lack of critical thinking taught by parents and educators as well as the fact that math and science now outweigh history as a component of schooling. Historical education teaches common sense and practical knowledge, math and science seldom do.

People of my generation are often more swayed by emotion than logic and facts by comparison to previous generations.

As I have mentioned many times, I am autistic, I'm rather proud of that fact because I look around myself and think, "That's supposed to be normal, thank God I'm not." While others in my generation cannot swap a light bulb, I am rebuilding a carburetor on a late 1960s Toro Power-Handle with Snowhound 20" attachment. By these standards, who really are the crazy ones?
 
If you're putting stickers on products that say "Do not spin dry dogs, cats, birds..." then your problem is the legal system. An element of stupidity has inhabited any group or generation you'd care to name. For every email you receive that bitches about having to cut two zip-ties, there are many you don't hear from who understand why the zip-ties need to be there.

"People of my generation are often more swayed by emotion than logic and facts by comparison to previous generations." This is actually far more true of Baby Boomers than Generation Z.

 

Certainly we can find common ground in this: Disdain for the next generation has always existed.

 

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Oh, and of course, with bells and whistles. Because nowadays it has to beep, it has to have several fancy names like "tru something" "power whatever" or a series or letters technology".

Add the words Professional, Commercial or Turbo, you sell 50% more.

If it cleans, that's a different story. who cares about that anyway?

And guess what... if you don't do "crap", your competitors will take you out of the market.

We have a few months before we discover what is Speed Queen really doing, but again, don't be surprised if the new model is zillions of times worse than the 2017 models.
 
<p>Thomas: Appending meaningless, fancy names or features to products is not a 'nowadays' trend.  One need only view the vintage ads in POD to see this has always been the case.  The "bullshit factor" has existed since the advent of marketing; only the words have changed/evolved.  Fifty years ago, manufacturers sought to increase sales by using words like 'scientific' or calling their product 'Lady Kenmore' or 'Flair Custom Imperial.' Today, the buzzwords are (surprise, surprise) 'Turbo' and 'iWhatever.'[this post was last edited: 10/12/2017-03:05]
 

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