2018 Speed Queen topload models

[Chetlaham]

Could be, time will tell, but you have to remember there is only so much you can do around a concept designed around lots of water. I have a feeling in the least the longevity aspect will remain. I also hope Speed Queen makes their new machines more service friendly. In the current Speed Queens if you loose the transmission or bearings you basically have to scrap the whole machine. Its a nightmare to change out. But if SQ comes out with something like Whirlpool did, I can picture them winning over many dealers.

And yahhh, I do agree that a lot of machines on the market are nothing but a bunch of gimmicks, chimes and glossy appeal. But at the same time remember that their are plenty of folks buying basic Whirlpool washers who have the means to buy otherwise, so not everyone is falling for it like they used to.

If Speed Queen plays this right, they could win A LOT of customers on many levels. The longevity aspect might actually force Whirlpool to do extended warranties or make more durable machines. And oh- Its just a wish, but if president Trump could visit Alliance in Ripon Wisconsin for being American made... Sales will absolutely sky rocket; with GE, Whirlpool and others making note.

It might be a dream, but I long for the day when I can set foot on the Sears, JCPenney or Home Depot sales floor and purchase a one-knob wonder from any manufacturer that will last 30+ years, 5 year unlimited warranty, stainless steal wash basket & steel outer tub, all metal parts, easy service and no lid-lock.

We can make laundry great again!!!!!!!!!!!! (A wish hoping to come true)

 

[johnrk]

re crap'

I don't share the pessimistic view that 'thomas' has stated. It has been a truism since the beginning of the last century for people to bemoan the shift of various industries with the demands of the times, and the advance of technology. There was a great movement, familiar to we who are car lovers, to try and bring back the Model T all the way up to WW II. It was simple, very sturdy, made of high-quality materials, and put the world on four wheels. However, it also was very inefficient with its use of gas and oil, required massive amounts of maintenance, was uncomfortable, and wasn't suited for the highways we were building.

I see this industry in the same position that our car industry was in the 70's. Few who know would dispute that that decade was awful for cars in this country, due to demands for greater safety and particularly greater economy. The cars of that decade were characterized by a certain level of unreliability, lack of durability, problems with running, etc. I see this industry in that time.

We may complain about our washers and dryers not matching the simple reliability of those of a half-century ago; having bought my first set 40 years ago, I sure wish I had it back, avocado color and all. However, realistically we also know that the world is growing not only more crowded but more prosperous--and more people can afford home laundry. The efficiency level of our old machines wasn't good enough for today's world, and we should all realize it. I truly believe that in a decade or less, machines like the TL Speed Queen that I just bought will be gone, consigned to collectors' basements and ersatz museums. We will see much improved front loading washers--and I'm confident that detergents will improve also.

In the meantime, those who build a quality product may not command the majority of the market, but they will have a place. I need a new dishwasher right now and I sure wish there was an equivalent to my old Hobart/KA Superba of 35 years ago. However, it used buckets of water and today's manufacturers are being challenged, as with laundry, to clean with next to no water. In the meantime, I keep washing my dishes by hand...

 

[magic_clean]

U.S. made Washers with long warranties

Here are two:

www.maytag.com/washers-and-dryers/washers/top-load-washers/p.top-load-washer-with-the-deep-fill-option-and-powerwash-cycle-4.7-cu.-ft.mvwb766fw.html

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www.maytag.com

 

[Chetlaham]

Thanks IMO, that should be the starting point for warranties.

 

[johnrk]

warranties?

Opening up the warranties, it appears that there is a 10 year warranty on the drive motor and the wash basket. I'm no washer guy, but looking on this site it doesn't appear that either of these kills washers as a rule. It appears to be seals, brakes, clutches, transmissions, etc. Furthermore, the warranties for these machines states, in the small print, that the warranted items are only covered for defects present at the time at the machine was purchased. How does one prove that? It states, of course, that it is Maytag's discretion whether such a condition existed.

I applaud the fact that at least some of their washers' parts are covered for more than a year or so, but unless prospective buyers truly read the warranty (which few do) they may be bitterly disappointed further down the road.

 

[agiflow2]

Wow ! Magic Clean are these the newest Maytags ? I will have to go to a Sears today to see these for myself if they have them.

I can't tell from the picture though,..is the agitator a true dual action ? or is it one piece ? 5 yr. parts and labor on the entire machine ?

Good for Whirlpool. I hope they get serious about building well built machines like they used to. I and i know most others don't want to see our last 2 american washer makers go under.[this post was last edited: 10/12/2017-10:18]

 

[combo52]

5 Years Parts and Labor

Is a great warranty on a home washer, and I give MT credit for responding to the heavy challenge that SQ is causing MT.

 

WP-MT should offer a standard 5 Y P&L warranty on ALL W&Ds costing over $800 if they really want to respond to SQs challenge.

 

I feel that is time for a major manufacturer like WP to launch a campaign emphasizing quality home appliances like WP did in the early 70s, doing so is the only way WP can stand up to the on slot of foreign appliances, WP has the infrastructure to do this.

 

More than anything else consumers want their major appliances to work and not need expensive early repairs and replacement.

 

John L.

 

[magic_clean]

Yes

it is a 2 piece agitator on the 3.5 cu. ft. basket model.

 

[agiflow2]

John I couldn't agree more . Whirlpool was a juggernaut from the beginning of the automatic washer boom. They said as early as 1950- "The world's largest manufacturer of washers and dryers"- or very close to that.

They should position Maytag like they did with Kitchen aid washers and dryers. They certainly have the know how and experience to build the highest quality appliances. COME ON WHIRLPOOL!

Magic Clean thanks for the info . One more question if I may. Will we be seeing more models from Maytag or Whirlpool with these kinds of warranties ? Because if so, I would love to come back to their top load laundry offerings.

 

[brucelucenta]

johnrk

Actually back in the day, speed queen used to give you a lifetime warranty on the stainless steel tub on the washer. Wasn't much good, considering that wasn't what failed when problems arose. It also did not include the pot metal insert in the middle of the tub which housed the agitator tube and drive. All the old speed queen stainless steel tubs were perfect when the machines were junked in the first few years.

 

[stricklybojack]

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I saw a new SQ commercial TL machine in a nice gray color...if I find the pic I'll post it.

Could it be, that depending on local conditions: water/user/settings/detergent/soil level omfg so many variables...that a person may prefer a spin drain to a neutral, or vice-versa?

Hard tellin' not knowin'...but I do believe SQ is the favorite brand to chat about 'round here regardless.

Craigslist ad copy:

NEW....NEW....NEW
(2) ONLY two months NEW Primus/ Speed Queen Top-Load washers.
3- year factory warranty.
New beautiful Gray color.
Simple user-friendly MDC board.
Large-capacity coin boxes included.
$800 each
(My cost was $965).
Installed July 2nd, 2017, removed August 25th.
(Decided to install larger washers instead)
[this post was last edited: 10/12/2017-12:56]

 

[agiflow2]

On first look at the Maytag dryer I got nervous. I thought it looked Frigidaire by the door.

 

[Chetlaham]

@Combo: Could not agree more! Personally Whirlpool should offer the 5 year on all their none BOL models. Better yet do a 6 year to win one up. Speed Queen will only grow as people look for quality. Let the great awakening begin!

 

[lordkenmore]

 Personally Whirlpool should offer the 5 year on all their none BOL models. 

 

I'd rather see it on the whole line.

 

If they need to market something cheap with shorter warranty, it seems like they have brand names which they can use (e.g., Roper).

 

[thomasortega]

Warranty tricks...

Probably the only company that doesn't use tricks in the USA is The Laundry Alternative.

3 year "hassle-free" warranty.

We will never, ever, try to fix a damaged unit.. if it fails, just let us know the original order number and the delivery address and a brand new unit will be shipped immediately at absolutely no cost for the customer.

This is what i call warranty, not spending 2 hours on the phone talking to an attendant in a call center in India and the company trying to find a minimal thing to void the warranty or postpone a solution as much as they can.

Or warranties that are not exactly clear.... 10 year warranty in huge capital letters then tiny on the bottom of the page "10 year warranty on the plug prongs, parts only, 90 day warranty on the rest of the washer."

 

[combo52]

Choice Of A Spin Drain

Hi Robert, for one thing no manufacturer would ever offer a choice on such a thing, for another explain how a SD works better under ANY laundry or water condition ?

 

For the 100th time. NO WASHER MANUFACTURER WHOSE MACHINE COULD DO A NEUTRAL DRAIN DID NOT USE A NEUTRAL DRAIN, now or ever.

 

John L

 

[stricklybojack]

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Sorry I didn't make that clear.
Is it possible a person knows what they like, maybe because of their particular set of washing circumstances...or not?
Is a person ALOWED to pick the washer they prefer for good reason, bad reason no reason at all?
Is there a best shade of blue...or a best song?

I see one can argue about neutral vs spin....but also one can choose not to and not be wrong.

 

[brucelucenta]

As I said before, it truly makes a great deal of sense that neutral drain is preferable to spin drain machines. The only reason other washing machines did not have a neutral drain is because they were incapable of doing so with the pumps they used. It would have only been possible if someone else had designed a machine to neutral drain or add a separate pump, which is finally what many machines have now. The only other machine I know of that did a partial drain was Norge. The rest did a spin drain and stirred up all the lint.[this post was last edited: 10/12/2017-21:50]

 

[frigilux]

Reply #89: Who---besides the military, possibly---would have the money to install a bunch of new SQ top-loaders, then remove them less than two months later over the issue of capacity? Is it possible there was something else either the users or owner did not like about the machines?

 

[Chetlaham]

Spin-drain

"The only reason other washing machines did not have a neutral drain is because they were incapable of doing so with the pumps they used"

I am not necessarily saying the neutral drain folks are wrong, but can someone elaborate more on this?

"NO WASHER MANUFACTURER WHOSE MACHINE COULD DO A NEUTRAL DRAIN DID NOT USE A NEUTRAL DRAIN, now or ever."

Like the above, I am not saying you are wrong, but I (in my mind) don't understand this. Machines continued to spin-drain even after going to a perforated tub.