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supermaticjames

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Evening all,

Tonight seen me parting ways with a much younger machine and coming home with a much older machine... Earlier on in the week I was browsing Gumtree, nothing usually surfaces locally for me but looks like I was in for an early festive treat! A lovely lady just 20 mins away from me won a new washing machine, so she put her old washer/dryer online. I contacted her about the washer/dryer as soon as I seen her ad on Gumtree. She explained that winning a new washing machine has caused a predicament for her as she has no dryer and it would not be economical to use her washer/dryer as a dryer, we made a great deal whereby I gave her my Hotpoint TDL30 in exchange for her 1990 Hoover Logic A8572 washer/dryer!!!
So I went and got the machine tonight and dropped the dryer off, everyone was satisfied and I brought the Logic back.

It's in very good condition, could do with a boil wash and a polish but it's fab! Even the drawer push button works! It was made in December 1990 so it's 22 years old. Oh and it's in that lovely Harmony Beige colour. I think I'll sot my Hoover Dryer De Luxe up on top of it even if they don't exactly match.

James.

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Hoover Logic

Well done in getting yourself this classic Washer/Dryer, how are the bearings on it. Great pictures, it looks in great condition.
 
looks really lovely, it almost looks like new. Congrats on your latest acquisition.

I look forward 2 hear how u get on with it. :)
 
Looks to be a rusty stain down the backplate so there could be a drum bearing problem. It looks like the bearing kits are still available.
 
Rust?

looks more like sealant glue runs to me. as there is no rust on the steel mounting plates for the motor or water corrosion marks on the alloy backplate, so therefore i would be surprised if this were the case.

Still james is more than capable of checking for play on the main bearings so it should not be a problem either way.

Great find by the James in such good visual condition, a nice alternative to the Hotpoints, did you see the Logic 1100 for sale in Antrim?

Gary
 
Evening all,

The bearings are fine guys, I don't know what that stain is but it's not a sign of water penetration. There are only two minor niggles with it that will be fixed on Wednesday before I do a boil wash in it. The locking washer on the pulley must be either missing or broken off therefore the drum freewheels a millimeter each way. I suppose I can just make a new locking tab for it and that will sort it. The second minor niggle is that the plastic clip on the pipe from the bottom end of the condenser is broken (just about visible in the pictures) I will fit a jubilee clip on it just in case but I don't think it has ever caused a leak. I have to admit the porthole is tiny compared to the classic Hotpoint's!

James.
 
Logic al

Thanks for pointing out the proximity of the Logic Al to me it would be an obvious choice to go for, but not knowing of James's situation its not for me to say he should buy it, but as the Trusty Ms Doyle says go on .......

If James is getting into Hoover logics he may aswell buy a pack of 5 tab washers (always good to have spares), though i admit they are expensive considering what they are.

http://www.buyspares.co.uk/hoover/a...h=495970:496642,45786:495976&model_ref=977827
 
Morning guys,

Just to confirm that I will not be going for the machine in Antrim. I know one can never have too many but I'd rather save the space for an Electron or Keymatic. That being said I am on the look out for an A3060 for the Dryer De Luxe to sit on top of. This Logic is my Xmas pressie to myself hehehe!
 
Space eaters! Beware

Hello James when i think how you were when you first joined this group, like any of us that start collecting at first it seems imposssible and nothing will turn up, but look at you now! having to think about space ;-).........not bad for a couple of years strife is it.

I am sure in the fullness of time other machines will come along and tempt you and make you squirm with should i should'nt i decisions, but its good fun, i think everything turns up at one time or another..........be patient grasshopper ;-) and soon you will be squeezing the odd machine in the house.............(coff coff Mat cardiff)

Also happy christmas to you and i hope you enjoy your virtually mint hoover 1100 pressy :-)

Gary
 
Hi James.

You do right to start being a bit selective as, before you know it you will find yourself running out of room and you have got to keep space for those special machines that turn up.

Your A8572 looks great and in very good condition too. Thank goodness the lady decided to pass it onto a new owner, rather than taking the easy route out and having it taken away for scrap.

Your machines colour scheme if officially Harmony Beige bodyshell and Ramsey Mink fascia and is defined as 'A-Line' in the servicing and product data manuals - just means that it was part of the core range of Hoover models.

a great find and something a little bit differnt to get your head round.

Congratulations on your A8572.
Paul
p.s thanks for posting photos of your machine, as these are the first photos I have ever seen of one!
 
Evening Gary, Evening Paul!

As you have guessed I'll be really enjoying this one during the holidays. Comparing the programmes and timing it against the Hotpoint's. I don't know whether I should stack my Hoover dryer on top of it as that worktop looks too nice to hide. If I did that then I will have room for four machines unless something better comes to replace one of my existing machines. I will be hunting shortly after the new year begins just in time for my birthday. The colour is certainly something fresh to look at instead of the typical Hotpoint "Almond" or "White" schemes running throughout my shed. Taken more of a fancy to "Harmony Beige & Ramsey Mink" than "Natural Linen" in all fairness. I'm on my holidays now so I'll be starting bright and early tomorrow morning to apply those two small fixes, clean and polish it inside and out, and do a boil wash then a load or two. Also how do I take the control panel off? Did Hoover do a 1300 rpm version of this machine? I was hoping this one did 1300 but when I looked it was 1100. 1300 machines had different motors to 1100 models or was it different modules or timers? I took the small removable resistor out of my WD61 and it now spins at 1200! Does anyone have a manual or service manual for my Hoover?

James.

James.
 
Re fascia removal

I wouldnt attempt it if you dont have to!

The following is my experience from taking apart an A3260 square button style electron, from the series prior to the A3350 machine on which your A8572 is derived. The basic taking apart routine will be similar though.

As far as I am concerned, its a major faff when compared to removing hotpoint fascias - though Hoover fascias are a hell of a lot less brittle and crackable (but they do crack nonetheless, generally around screw holes, powder push button and door release buttons).

First stage is to remove the lid and remove the lid retaining brackets, that the lid hooks over at the front. These are screwed through the top of the fascia and into the top of the bodyshell - the fascia can crack around these screws as the bodyshell flexes and twists over the years!

Once these brackets are removed, you remove the powder drawer - dont just yank it out, but look underneath and you will see a bent piece of metal that you have to push. Pushing this retaining strip allows you to remove the powder drawer.
This metal retaining strip is seldom there though, as they generally have been sheared/snapped off through aggressive and incorrect drawer removal.
The breaking of this metal strip can also result in cracking of the fascia around its mounting screw.

Removal of the drawer reveals three screws - the middle one is the metal strip mounting screw. These three screws require removing.

Now to the first quite fiddly bit - the front of the dial is a cap. Gently insert something such as a small flathead screw driver (be careful as you will chew the plastic if your screwdriver is too big - using your fingernails is safer for the plastic!), and gently pull away from the dial. Note that the dial cap sits up against the moulded grip of the dial - insert your flat object down in front of the moulded grip.
Once the cap is removed you will see a short tunnel down the centre of the dial and a circlip. This circlip holds the dial mechanism together. Removal of the circlip (fiddly) will free the programme barrel and spring, which you push against to engage the teeth and select a programme. These can now be removed.

Depending on how your machine is put together, the next part is THE most fiddly bit - the unscrewing of the actual programmer timer from both the fascia AND the metal bodyshell of the machine!

Once you have done that, then there are plastic clips to be disengaged and then you can remove the fasia.
Oh - bear in mind that there are neons to be unclipped, buttons to be disconnected and both the powder push and door release mechanisms to be disengaged, PLUS you will have to contend with the dryer timer too!

Seriously James - if you dont need to take the fascia off, then just DON'T BOTHER - its a b1tch!

Paul :-)
 
p.s the Logic 1300 washer dryers were the thumbwheel pure logic machines, rather than warmed over Electron 1100's.

To the best of my knowledge, though without double checking, there were no dial controlled 1300 washer dryer's.

Paul
 
Looks like a no-no for me then!

Thanks for the heads up Paul! I'll just stick to top access for this one then. It's becoming apparent that Hoover build quality slightly outweighs Hotpoint build quality although servicing is compromised.

Roll on tomorrow!

James.
 
Great find James!

Love the colour scheme! It's pretty much identical to my Grandad's ecologic, which we have owned since new and is my current daily driver. Very unusual programming on these energy control electrons rehashed as logics and ecologics, heating at both low level and high level on the 40c programmes, only spinning once between the (extremely short) rinses and going into woollens wash action towards the end of the non-fast cottons programme! Once I get my logic 1300 up north I shall give the ecologic a break and put that in it's place, can't beat a good thumb wheel!

Here's ours, just lubricated the motor last night, need to touch up the paintwork at sometime as well! Only a brush change and a new pump since new, not bad considering it rolled out of the factory 20 years ago this month!

Matt

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@matt

Hi Matt, yes my machine is the exact same as yours only mine is two years older. The programming is certainly something alright, the cotton cycle is irritating, it would have been much better if the machine had the "logic" (excuse the pun!) to skip the woolens section of the timer or at least skip the fill to the high water level and heating stage. I did a load in the machine today but my phone was dead so I couldn't do any videos but I will take some tomorrow! I really enjoy using this machine, definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the Hotpoint's I am all too familiar with. The rinses are far superior (they would need to be with that amount of water oh my!) and the suspension is rock steady. I have yet to comment on the drying ability but it warms up great without high heat selected (pointless option and I think most users forget to select it anyway as most w/d's have heat selection built into the main programmer). If I get a chance I will try the dryer out tomorrow. Loving it!

James.
 

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